News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[Sir_Cliff]

A series of random vignettes is how I'd describe Frozen Ever After! It's just a collection of characters and songs from the movie -- you could shuffle the order and it wouldn't really be noticeable or make any difference.

I agree that Maelstrom is basically a collection of vignettes too, but I just think it works better in Maelstrom. Being more atmospheric is probably part of it.

I do get that and think I like FEA more than most on here. This is where I wonder if the music plays a role in making it seem a lot more like a connected journey through the world of the film than it would be otherwise. Certainly wish the placement was different and we had a new Norwegian-themed attraction in the pavilion, but that's all history at this point. I'm sure it will be a hit at WDSP as in that context it fills a need for a family friendly dark ride attraction mostly lacking from the park.

Bringing it back to the construction of Tiana, I will say the mountain is beginning to look rather green!

 

[BrerFoxesBayouAdventure]

Bringing it back to the construction of Tiana, I will say the mountain is beginning to look rather green!

Booger mountain, anyone?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

It’ll end up in some executive’s office who campaigned for the removal of Splash. It’ll be right next to the “You May Get Wet” sign on their wall.

maybe they could add it to Laughing Place Ranch they are building at that Cotino, Storyliving by Disney

 

[Tha Realest]

maybe they could add it to Laughing Place Ranch they are building at that Cotino, Storyliving by Disney

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Is this real? How did this get past the censors?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Is this real? How did this get past the censors?

I'm willing to bet that there are people so disconnected from a movie's cartoon segments that they didn't even know where the phrase came from.

 

[Drdcm]

maybe they could add it to Laughing Place Ranch they are building at that Cotino, Storyliving by Disney

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How many dogs do those people own? holy crap!

 

[Kirby86]

I'm willing to bet that there are people so disconnected from a movie's cartoon segments that they didn't even know where the phrase came from.

Since it seems for this storybook living thing they are really leaning heavy into the Walt Disney of it. He used the term laughing place a lot so they figured sure why not use the name. It's odd they did this after getting rid of Splash, however I agree with you they thought of the name because of Walt not because someone really likes Song of the South

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Since it seems for this storybook living thing they are really leaning heavy into the Walt Disney of it. He used the term laughing place a lot so they figured sure why not use the name. It's odd they did this after getting rid of Splash, however I agree with you they thought of the name because of Walt not because someone really likes Song of the South

Oh definitely - just optics of the timing aren't great

 

[UNCgolf]

I do get that and think I like FEA more than most on here. This is where I wonder if the music plays a role in making it seem a lot more like a connected journey through the world of the film than it would be otherwise. Certainly wish the placement was different and we had a new Norwegian-themed attraction in the pavilion, but that's all history at this point. I'm sure it will be a hit at WDSP as in that context it fills a need for a family friendly dark ride attraction mostly lacking from the park.

Bringing it back to the construction of Tiana, I will say the mountain is beginning to look rather green!

I still can't believe they're just cloning it at WDSP. I don't think anyone -- including people who really like FEA -- think that's what Disney would have built for Frozen if they didn't have to shoehorn it into the existing Maelstrom location.

 

[BrerFoxesBayouAdventure]

I'm willing to bet that there are people so disconnected from a movie's cartoon segments that they didn't even know where the phrase came from.

According to a couple of CMs I've talked to over the past few months, they still play the Laughin' Place song in loops and apparently the original song from the film plays in hotel gift shops.

It's so weird seeing what they'll pick and choose from a property they've considered "problematic" enough to lock away forever. They've been doing it for over 4 decades now and I think it's more glaring now that Splash itself is gone.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

According to a couple of CMs I've talked to over the past few months, they still play the Laughin' Place song in loops and apparently the original song from the film plays in hotel gift shops.

It's so weird seeing what they'll pick and choose from a property they've considered "problematic" enough to lock away forever. They've been doing it for over 4 decades now and I think it's more glaring now that Splash itself is gone.

I strongly doubt these exceptions are intentional. I'd guess that the higher ups who mandated the purge simply don't know about it. The CM's running these shops likely haven't bothered to tell them either. This is probably the same reason why the Penny Press tucked away under the Frontierland railroad was spared for a while after all other Brer merch was banned.

 

[Incomudro]

According to a couple of CMs I've talked to over the past few months, they still play the Laughin' Place song in loops and apparently the original song from the film plays in hotel gift shops.

It's so weird seeing what they'll pick and choose from a property they've considered "problematic" enough to lock away forever. They've been doing it for over 4 decades now and I think it's more glaring now that Splash itself is gone.

The idea that a song can't be played because it's tied to a film a portion of the population has issues with is ridiculous.

 

[LittleBuford]

Some of the language being used here—"purge", "ban"—is really extreme and unnecessary. We're dealing with the removal of an IP from a theme park, for goodness' sake, not a book burning.

 

[Ghost93]

I strongly doubt these exceptions are intentional. I'd guess that the higher ups who mandated the purge simply don't know about it. The CM's running these shops likely haven't bothered to tell them either. This is probably the same reason why the Penny Press tucked away under the Frontierland railroad was spared for a while after all other Brer merch was banned.

I always have felt that the executives at Disney (from the Michael Eisner era onward) at have been squeamish around Song of the South, while a lot of the creatives within the company have had a deep fondness for it. The creatives have been trying to sneak references to the film here and there in ways that wouldn't catch the attention of the CEO. So that is probably the explanation for the discrepancies.

 

[celluloid]

Some of the language being used here—"purge", "ban"—is really extreme and unnecessary. We're dealing with the removal of an IP from a theme park, for goodness' sake, not a book burning.

Removal of all characters and intellectual property.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

According to a couple of CMs I've talked to over the past few months, they still play the Laughin' Place song in loops and apparently the original song from the film plays in hotel gift shops.

Those gift shops are probably playing the old "Classic Disney" series of CDs that were released during the mid-late 90s.

Volume 2 has that song, and others appear in the series too.

Such is the difficulty of trying to purge a movie who's content was widely spread across so many channels for so long.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I always have felt that the executives at Disney (from the Michael Eisner era onward) at have been squeamish around Song of the South, while a lot of the creatives within the company have had a deep fondness for it. The creatives have been trying to sneak references to the film here and there in ways that wouldn't catch the attention of the CEO. So that is probably the explanation for the discrepancies.

I can see this as well. The movie is kind of a deep cut reference and a litmus test of Disney fandom that makes it the perfect Easter Egg to place in various spots.

Regarding Eisner, he did say this about the movie. From Disney's own book The Disney Mountains: Imagineering at its Peak:

"It's a great, innovative movie with the combination of live action and animation...but we'd never release that movie on home video* because you'd have to do so much explaining, historically, about the time it was made and the attitudes people had. But that doesn't negate the strong music, or the characters other than Uncle Remus."

*Michael may have forgotten the movie was released to video outside the USA while he was CEO...plus clips on other tapes

 

[Casper Gutman]

Some of the language being used here—"purge", "ban"—is really extreme and unnecessary. We're dealing with the removal of an IP from a theme park, for goodness' sake, not a book burning.

Ehhhh… Song of the South is a truly problematic IP (and not just to some easily dismissed portion of the population) and the issues surrounding book burning are far more socially, politically, and culturally troubling and significant…

BUT…

After a modern book burning, the book is still available to be read (that does not remotely make it OK, of course). What makes the Splash situation so distressing is that, unlike a protested book or film, it’s a work of art that is now gone. It can never be experienced again. That doesn’t make the removal wrong, but I think it does make it more meaningful then the execs making the decision understand, and it does raise issues of theme park attractions as art that may not have clear, satisfying answers.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

For the first time in decades, it's now easier to watch a decent quality copy of Song of the South than actually ride Splash Mountain. The opposite was true for so long it's not something I ever thought was going to happen, especially without an official release.

 

[Ghost93]

I can see this as well. The movie is kind of a deep cut reference and a litmus test of Disney fandom that makes it the perfect Easter Egg to place in various spots.

Regarding Eisner, he did say this about the movie. From Disney's own book The Disney Mountains: Imagineering at its Peak:

"It's a great, innovative movie with the combination of live action and animation...but we'd never release that movie on home video* because you'd have to do so much explaining, historically, about the time it was made and the attitudes people had. But that doesn't negate the strong music, or the characters other than Uncle Remus."

*Michael may have forgotten the movie was released to video outside the USA while he was CEO...plus clips on other tapes

I always got the vibe that Michael personally liked the film but was too scared to release it, while Bob Iger strongly disliked the movie AND was scared to release it.

I personally think the movie isn't appropriate for impressionable children, but I also think the children of today would largely be bored by it. It should have had a DVD release as part of Leonard Maltin's Treasures series in the early 2000s. That would have been the perfect way to release the film to film history/animation buffs without marketing it to children. But that ship has long sailed.