News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[MerlinTheGoat]

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but OLC has no choice. I’m not saying they don’t want to, granted their never ending expansions & new offerings. However I believe per their licensing agreement with Disney, they have to maintain the parks to a certain standard, and from what I recall being said on here, it is the standard that Disney has for their parks at the time Tokyo Disney was built.

Unless you have a reputable source, I don't buy it. I've never heard of such a thing. It wouldn't be easily enforceable either.

TDR opened 40 years ago. Few to no high level TWDC execs still there today were around back then. And they certainly don't care about park standards. The ones who did know and care are long gone or dead. No one is going to try to impose standards on Tokyo that they themselves long since abandoned and likely wouldn't even be able to properly quantify and make threats over. Just for one example, I doubt there are any board members (and probably an exceedingly tiny number of park managers, if any) who are aware of the proactive "replace lightbulbs that have reached 80% life expectancy" policy that was still in effect around that time. Something that was a written standard once adhered to, but hasn't been for a very very long time.

One aspect that likely aids in Tokyo's park maintenance to some degree is that they still have ample corporate sponsorships compared to the US parks. Though that isn't the full story as there are still a few sponsored rides left in America that are in just as bad of a shape as the sponsored stuff. There's also a variability of maintenance standards between different TWDC-owned parks as well. Cali's standards have dipped in recent years, but it's still far better than WDW. In recent years, Paris' standards also improved drastically during the 20th anniversary cleanup and have reportedly yet to decline much if at all since. Friends have said it's currently maintained better than either of the US parks.

While this isn't the case for every single Japanese company in existence, there are also significant cultural factors at play. There's on average a much greater drive for perfectionism in Japanese society than there is in America. Self improvement, dedication etc.

 

[JoeCamel]

It’s just from memory, maybe I’m wrong. It’s possible, I’m gonna do some searching later today and take a look through the forums

I would think it is similar to the Marvel contract that they have to keep them in good repair to use the IP

 

[Dear Prudence]

OLC also has no problem maintaining the attractions at Tokyo Disneyland but somehow the largest media company on earth can’t afford upkeep that they used to do up to the 1990s

This.

AND I think it's more than some cultural differences between the two countries; Americans in particular will just accept rock bottom and act like anyone who says anything else is being a whiny malcontent. I see so many people in this space alone make excuses and simp for Disney--like they aren't the largest media Megazord in the world and don't have more money than God.

In re: Japanese culture is more communal and thoughtful of others as a whole (and this is not to infantilize, romanticize, or over-simplify). There are fewer trash cans throughout the parks, because the culture is to pack up your own trash. I think the stereotype of strong-armed uniformity in Japan is wholly off-base, but I will say that the culture is more mindful and does consider the experiences of others, especially in public spaces. You could not have a run down park of any kind in Japan. Even buildings that are very old (and I am not even talking about the temples) are maintained to the best of their ability.

Also Efteling which has a fraction of the budget and brand recognition outclasses the US Disney parks by leaps and bounds.

I think there is a misconception about Disney fans, especially in spaces like this, where people falsely assume that any complaints are just malcontent entitlement, and I wholly disagree; we pay a premium for a service, so give it to us. You make enough money, so where is it all going? Stop sending influencers on vacations and pay for park maintenance. Stop giving us trash and expecting everyone to just fall all over themselves over it.

 

[Kirby86]

If it's like the Marvel contract it proably states OLC parks have to be held to Industry standards. Japan just seems to want to go above and beyond what current Disney wants to do.

 

[Honeycomb]

OLC also has no problem maintaining the attractions at Tokyo Disneyland but somehow the largest media company on earth can’t afford upkeep that they used to do up to the 1990s

Or paying their CMs a better wage.

 

[DCBaker]

Photos from today - looks like the weathervane has been removed from the queue barn.

 

[BagOfGroceries]

And thus, the directions shall be unknown.

 

[Nland316]

Photos from today - looks like the weathervane has been removed from the queue barn.

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Honestly, about time. People were too hung up on the idea that it was staying.

 

[Midwest Elitist]

Honestly, about time. People were too hung up on the idea that it was staying.

One of the big YouTubers got confirmation that it was. Even if it's true, which it might have been, no one is aligned in this company anymore.

 

[LittleBuford]

One of the big YouTubers got confirmation that it was. Even if it's true, which it might have been, no one is aligned in this company anymore.

Keeping it would have made no sense, though. I don’t think its removal tells us anything about the company’s internal dynamics. It was always going to go, regardless of what some YouTuber may have said.

 

[EagleScout610]

Photos from today - looks like the weathervane has been removed from the queue barn.

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Dibs when it pops up on Ebay next month

 

[Brian]

Keeping it would have made no sense, though. I don’t think its removal tells us anything about the company’s internal dynamics. It was always going to go, regardless of what some YouTuber may have said.

Keeping it would have been the cheapest option, as well as leaving a small nod to the original attraction in place for fans, as well as having a cute little rabbit weathervane for the average MK guest who doesn't know who B'rer Rabbit is. Not to mention that it really would not clash with the theming of the attraction, though given recent design choices, I don't think that's a concern these days.

 

[bmr1591]

It’ll end up in some executive’s office who campaigned for the removal of Splash. It’ll be right next to the “You May Get Wet” sign on their wall.

 

[EagleScout610]

It’ll end up in some executive’s office who campaigned for the removal of Splash. It’ll be right next to the “You May Get Wet” sign on their wall.

Smelted into Iger's toilet seat so he can on SotS til his dying day

 

[Fox&Hound]

I only take exception with the "Frozen didn't fix Maelstrom's brevity" critique.

While it isn't THAT much longer, it does have added show space that Maelstrom did not have.



Frozen is roughly 1 extra minute from start to finish based on reviewing a few videos ... or a 5 minute ride vs a 4 minute ride.

Now critique of the art direction / set design / AA's is another thing, but I don't personally think Frozen is a short attraction, the ride time is decent for an attraction of this scale.

But it perhaps can still feel brief, which may be a result of Disney shoehorning the ride into a layout/ride type that doesn't particularly work for the story.

But it's a more complete experience than Maelstrom was.

Wow, watching this I don’t see why people hate on Frozen. It is so much better in every way!

 

[LittleBuford]

Keeping it would have been the cheapest option, as well as leaving a small nod to the original attraction in place for fans, as well as having a cute little rabbit weathervane for the average MK guest who doesn't know who B'rer Rabbit is. Not to mention that it really would not clash with the theming of the attraction, though given recent design choices, I don't think that's a concern these days.

Keeping a recognisable silhouette of Br’er Rabbit on a ride whose goal is to move totally away from that particular IP never seemed remotely possible to me, let alone likely.

 

[Brian]

Keeping a recognisable silhouette of Br’er Rabbit on a ride whose goal is to move totally away from that particular IP never seemed remotely possible to me, let alone likely.

I never thought it was likely, just that it would have been nice for the aforementioned reasons. Wishful thinking.

 

[LittleBuford]

I never thought it was likely, just that it would have been nice for the aforementioned reasons. Wishful thinking.

I was paraphrasing others, not you. Sorry for not being clearer about that.

 

[Brian]

I was paraphrasing others, not you. Sorry for not being clearer about that.

No worries. Happens to me too. It's hard to discern these things online.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

It’ll end up in some executive’s office who campaigned for the removal of Splash. It’ll be right next to the “You May Get Wet” sign on their wall.

It’s in Patrick’s basement bedroom in his parents house, just WAITING for the right moment…