LittleBuford
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I’m talking about the line work—the way the figures are drawn. That won’t change regardless of what other layers of colouring remain to be added.
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News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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LittleBuford
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I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. This is not the first time I’ve criticised aspects of the retheme. I am generally for the project but have disliked a number of decisions they’ve announced thus far and am keeping an entirely open mind for the final result (including the possibility that I may hate it).
Disney Analyst
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A little whimsy and fantasy is a-okay in my books.
LittleBuford
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You edited this after my initial reply. This is actually my biggest issue with the mural: it doesn’t look like it comes from the animated world of the film at all. It looks decidedly like it’s trying to imitate a real-world mural associated with the 1920s jazz scene.
That's ok. I am saying don't be shocked that the mural is there because its being themed to a princess Mardi Gras Adventure. It seems on brand to what they are doing. What we are all seeing, is that many don't like what they are doing with it.
This is confusing. I thought you said it was jarring because it was on the outside. But now you say it matches the real world of the 1920s but it should not be on the outside?
I think the Mural is gaudy, but pretty on par so far with the "Almost There" and Mardi scenes of the movie and what has been presented for the ride. Right down to the sign that was first announced to this to a post 1920s Mardi Gras theme. I find it jarring, because its in Frontierland. But not shocking of what they are doing.
James Alucobond
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What about the crown looks specifically like the 20s? It seems a bit more art nouveau to me, which originated in the late 1800s. Frontierland has always been a bit of a 19th century hodgepodge, with 1830s/40s for Tom Sawyer, Reconstruction era for Splash, etc.
LittleBuford
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I find it discordant with the PatF aesthetic regardless of where it’s located. I find it discordant with Frontierland because it’s outside.
Epcot82Guy
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I think we are missing a key story point that helps make sense of this.
Peter Quill visited New Orleans as a child...
Peter Quill visited New Orleans as a child...
The fact that the crown within the story is added as the Established date of the company. It is literally in the show writing.
It is not just that it looks far beyond the era. The storyline with Tiana wallows in it. If you are good with that's that is fine, but don't bend the reality.
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Epcot81Fan
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Agree!
I think it looks exactly like those giant crowns on those water towers over employee owned food co-ops in the 1930’s!
It’s almost like a picture straight from a history book!
Oh come on. We can surely justify it as Art Nouveau. It is not like we have show writing showcasing that this was hung by a crane in 1927 with a photo of the founders in its backstory...
James Alucobond
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Just like rafts and whatnot from Tom Sawyer would have been constructed in the 1830s and the structures on Big Thunder are stated to have been built late- to post-Gold Rush? I just don’t really understand the obsession with the date on which things were canonically constructed in a land that has never been too fussed with such things in the first place. You have always been able to look out across the Rivers of America and see a wide variety of different time periods represented.
I’m sorry, did you think Frontierland was a historical facsimile and not a whimsical interpretation?
LittleBuford
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There are two separate things going on here.
1. The crown's presence on the tower.
2. The crown's style.
Neither of these things conjures up the 1920s. The first is just an idiosyncrasy cooked up (excuse the pun) for the retheme, while the second is indistinct enough that it doesn't point to any specific period. There are definitely reasons to dislike the crown, but "It looks too 1920s" isn't one of them.
1. The crown's presence on the tower.
2. The crown's style.
Neither of these things conjures up the 1920s. The first is just an idiosyncrasy cooked up (excuse the pun) for the retheme, while the second is indistinct enough that it doesn't point to any specific period. There are definitely reasons to dislike the crown, but "It looks too 1920s" isn't one of them.
Epcot81Fan
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Hey, I think the giant tiara will look perfect in Fantasyland!
Oh wait, I meant the giant tiara will look perfect with all of the other giant cartoon princess themeing throughout Frontierland and New Orleans Square on both coasts!
Well done, WDI!
James Alucobond
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I thought this was about people thinking it looked as if it were from another time period, not about whether or not they liked it. It’s not like it’s blatantly art deco or modern.
Incomudro
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Yeah, this looks like today's multi-cultural art.
Would we see art like this in New Orleans' in the 1920's?
Ghost93
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I'm in the same boat. I think The Princess and the Frog was the best property to use for a Splash Mountain retheme, but I have reservations on the way they are handling the change. Right now, I'd have preferred them to have made a ride based more on the story of the film with Dr. Facillier being a major component instead of the whole Tiana's Foods Co-op concept. But I'll wait till I go on the ride before saying the Tiana's Foods idea is a mistake.
Disney Analyst
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No fantasy elements ALLOWED I say. No cartoonish looking briar patches, no metal tiaras, nothing! Hyperrealism ONLY or else all is a bust. If this tiara stands, the "Magic" Kingdom is ruined, and the world ends tomorrow.
Whimsy is putting Star Tours in Tomorrowland and because it has the buck Rogers serial analogue style of the future people like to imagine with space travel adventure even though it is always a long time ago.
1927 post WW1 with gold rush and Mark Twain's fable on the 1800s...is lazy.
If you are fine with it that is fine. But you got called out wrong on your attempts to bend the reality and asked me to provide how I know the crown is post 1920s. You completely went to attack my capabilities to see frontierland as any whimsy.