News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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BrerFoxesBayouAdventure said:
It was tailor made for Disneyland with no thought of how it'd fit into WDW. They're building Latino and Villain land anyway, Frontierland will soon be a thing of the past.
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That's blatantly false - the retheme was created with both parks in mind (and Tokyo, for that matter).

There's no legitimate reason to believe Frontierland is going anywhere. No more than when Splash Mountain brought the red hills of Georgia to it, anyway.
 
Disgruntled Walt

Disgruntled Walt

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
That's blatantly false - the retheme was created with both parks in mind (and Tokyo, for that matter).

There's no legitimate reason to believe Frontierland is going anywhere. No more than when Splash Mountain brought the red hills of Georgia to it, anyway.
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BrerFoxesBayouAdventure said:
Really? Because most of the show-scenes match up better with Disneyland?
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I could conceivably believe (and I'm NOT a conspiracy theorist) that this attraction was initially proposed (pre-2020) as a Disneyland exclusive, in the same vein as GotG:MB. The two rides are not identical, from the number of scenes to the speed at which you pass them. I said this years ago: there is bound to be something found in one ride that isn't found in the other (and, depending on their attention to detail, blank gaps in one that aren't in the other).

But what I think is more probably true is that the WDW version nearly got cut if it hadn't been for the cancellation of Play! and other things that didn't happen. The funding for those cancelled attractions got funneled into WDW's version, which would have otherwise depended on funding from OLC's Tokyo version—and that, despite Disney's wishes, did not happen.
 
MerlinTheGoat

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
That's blatantly false - the retheme was created with both parks in mind (and Tokyo, for that matter).

There's no legitimate reason to believe Frontierland is going anywhere. No more than when Splash Mountain brought the red hills of Georgia to it, anyway.
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The retheme was/is definitely custom made for Disneyland, with the WDW variant having been an afterthought at best. I don't even know if they considered cloning it at WDW prior to the event prompting a rushed announcement. It might have been in the back of their minds, but the motivation to change the DL variant was stronger. It's extremely apparent that no consideration was given to its placement at WDW.

Critter Country is literally right on the border of New Orleans Square. It also helps that their version of Splash already takes place in a swamp. For all of the arguments about Splash's position in Frontierland, the ride itself was still modified considerably to help it fit in with the existing Frontierland without having to alter the surrounding land. In fact, the alterations in this case made it more faithful to the original film. The red clay on the facade, the interior changes to remove the swampy environment in favor of a sunny countryside, or the shift to a bluegrass flavored soundtrack away from jazz. No such changes are being made to Tiana by comparison. It's going to be a jazzy princess fairy tale ride through a swamp, plopped into an area without any rhyme or reason.

If Tiana is made to fit better in the area it's occupying at WDW, it will be the area itself that will require alteration. Rumors exist that the Pecos Bill corner and surrounding area could be rethemed to a New Orleans miniland. This is still up in the air AFAIK, but I have also heard of the existence of this proposal. At the very least, I think Pecos Bills itself will eventually become a Tiana restaurant. Country Bears at least in its current form is also a potential candidate for alteration/replacement in the future, it's considered dated and problematic from some at the company. Based on the artwork for Beyond Big Thunder, Tom Sawyer's Island and the western/northern chunk of Rivers of America are likely to be demolished. So if the Riverboat isn't removed outright, at the very least it'll probably be permanently docked in Liberty Square. Frontierland is already diminished by Tiana, but if the other rumors pan out then it will be reduced even moreso to where almost nothing will be left other than Big Thunder itself.
 
yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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Y'all can feel all you want that they're not making enough effort at genuine placemaking in Frontierland to account for Tiana's Bayou Adventure. I would agree that I would like to see more on that front than what we've seen so far.

It does not change the fact that the intention was always for Tiana's Bayou Adventure to replace Splash at both Disneyland and Walt Disney World (and, as I said, Tokyo).

There's so much random speculation in this thread being bandied about as fact.
 
Vegas Disney Fan

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
Y'all can feel all you want that they're not making enough effort at genuine placemaking in Frontierland to account for Tiana's Bayou Adventure. I would agree that I would like to see more on that front than what we've seen so far.

It does not change the fact that the intention was always for Tiana's Bayou Adventure to replace Splash at both Disneyland and Walt Disney World (and, as I said, Tokyo).

There's so much random speculation in this thread being bandied about as fact.
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Would you care to share the link to the source that proves this is a fact?

As you said we’ve all been speculating, primarily because as far as I know it’s never been reported either way, if you can provide the link we can instantly end the speculation.
 
Drdcm

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
Y'all can feel all you want that they're not making enough effort at genuine placemaking in Frontierland to account for Tiana's Bayou Adventure. I would agree that I would like to see more on that front than what we've seen so far.

It does not change the fact that the intention was always for Tiana's Bayou Adventure to replace Splash at both Disneyland and Walt Disney World (and, as I said, Tokyo).

There's so much random speculation in this thread being bandied about as fact.
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How do you know this? I’m not arguing with you, but genuinely wondering why ppl should listen to you on this
 
BrerFoxesBayouAdventure

BrerFoxesBayouAdventure

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
It does not change the fact that the intention was always for Tiana's Bayou Adventure to replace Splash at both Disneyland and Walt Disney World (and, as I said, Tokyo).
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Thinking about it, I'm morbidly curious as to how they'd manage to fit it in Tokyo without demolishing most of the land. That entire area is themed to Song of the South and I don't think simply changing the ride would be enough.
 
Disgruntled Walt

Disgruntled Walt

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
There's so much random speculation in this thread being bandied about as fact.
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Ah yes, I've definitely been saying everything is factual...
imagineer97 said:
I could conceivably believe
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imagineer97 said:
But what I think is more probably true
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And speaking of acting like we know facts...
yensidtlaw1969 said:
It does not change the fact that the intention was always for Tiana's Bayou Adventure to replace Splash at both Disneyland and Walt Disney World (and, as I said, Tokyo).
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Everything is satisfactual!
 
bmr1591

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BrerFoxesBayouAdventure said:
Thinking about it, I'm morbidly curious as to how they'd manage to fit it in Tokyo without demolishing most of the land. That entire area is themed to Song of the South and I don't think simply changing the ride would be enough.
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They’d have to redo everything, but they aren’t. Splash is popular in Tokyo and sells a lot of merchandise. Tiana isn’t popular in Japan and they don’t care about the West’s political feelings.
 

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