Tha Realest
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The video was posted a page or two back. About 40 minutes into it.I’m quite certain there is no source. I’ll happily admit my error if somebody can provide us with one.
The video was posted a page or two back. About 40 minutes into it.I’m quite certain there is no source. I’ll happily admit my error if somebody can provide us with one.
He spent it all on mega millions tickets…You just know the VPs at WDI are going to try and recoup his “consulting” fee by saying this was a violation of his NDA
If he didn’t sign an NDA, I can’t wait for the book…If there is an NDA, my guess is he probably didn't violate it. Depends on the terms of course. I would imagine it was something like "don't reveal anything about the new ride" and MAYBE "don't offer negative criticism of the new ride". Tony is clearly a smart man though, and he was very careful about what he said on there. He made it clear that he's not happy that Splash was removed, but the full extent of what he said about the retheme was "I hope it turns out well". What can they reasonably do to punish him for that? Like yeah, we can tell he's not happy with it, but legally speaking that's going to cause Disney problems if they mess with him over it. If anything, Tony can cause Disney a ton of PR trouble by making his unfiltered opinions on the retheme public instead.
The actual "conspiracy theory" in this situation was that Tony Baxter was involved with and happy about the retheme. Might be time to join me in admitting a mistake instead of digging further antagonizing people who turns out had good reason to be concerned. I'm humble enough to apologize and admit I was wrong, are you?
If he didn’t sign an NDA, I can’t wait for the book…
A while back one of the sources I know (a few people here as well) actually met Tony at Disneyland and he was disappointed about the retheme even then. Out of respect, I never shared who it was (photographic evidence). And to be fair, I think most of us here now have access to insiders, at various levels of the company.If you think he said anything positive about the new ride, you didn't watch the interview. Tony's extremely brief comment about the new ride was that he hopes the team behind Tiana are taking into consideration how the new scenes they create will interact with the existing ride system. Particularly the big drop. Even in a vacuum, that comment is one of concern, not a positive one. The broader context was Tony previously explaining how they played up the fear of the big drop during the ride, including a lengthy discussion about the psychology of the final lift. These are the same concerns many of us here have been expressing as well.
If he had anything good to say about the ride, he'd have simply and clearly said so. The fact that he didn't even provide a generic "I think the retheme stands to be a quality attraction on its own" is very telling. He instead concluded with a word of warning/concern. As it stands, we already know from what Disney has revealed about the final lift that his warning is being ignored. And i'm sure he knows a lot more about the project than any of us do.
If you still want to believe the team working on the ride will turn in a quality ride, then that's fine. I hope they prove us all wrong and do exactly that, because who wants the ride to be bad? But continuing to cling onto the idea that Tony is involved and positive about the project is ludicrous. Even my own source no longer believes this (and for what little it may be worth, last exchange we had, they also still believe the ride will be good in spite of this). I've admitted i'm wrong, it's time for everyone else who still clings onto this to do the same and move on.
This is off-topic, but I would be very surprised if most members of this forum had access to insiders.And to be fair, I think most of us here now have access to insiders, at various levels of the company.
Especially when it comes to detailed specifics of WDI projects. And most folks on these teams aren't going to share intimate details of these projects to anyone, including friends and family.This is off-topic, but I would be very surprised if most members of this forum had access to insiders.
Most might be an exaggeration. I think it's true for the incredibly active users. But access to that information is definitely fading away...This is off-topic, but I would be very surprised if most members of this forum had access to insiders.
Great shots, thank you!
Tiana's Scaffolding Adventure.Great shots, thank you!
I'm REALLY liking the Mossy look in these two photos in particular - if more of that continues around the exterior it'll definitely help create the sense of a different space:
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This decision to remove Splash may go down as one of their worst decisions ever made especially considering they needed capacity elsewhere and this could have been a nice addition.Definitely not something Tony would say if he's involved with the replacement. So i'm sorry about that claim and I retract it, disappointing but not surprising.
For what it's worth, I ran this by my source, and they said they were probably given old information. They also still think the retheme is going to be great, Tony being involved or not. I don't think they're attempting to deceive here. Again, they're not remotely a fan of the modern Disney company or the decision to retheme. And several of their other claims have been proven accurate, such as the new characters, being a more physical ride with animatronics and having a higher budget than it started with. But you have to be wary of things changing during development along with taking subjective stuff that you can't see/hear first hand with a grain of salt.
I'll also reiterate another thing i've personally stated from the start (despite what else i've said)- Disney does not deserve the benefit of the doubt that they'll create something decent here. And you should not give them it. It's their responsibility to prove people wrong. It's infinitely more likely that they'll ruin it, and it'll take a miracle if they get even remotely close to Splash quality. The only hint of hope I have right now is that some of the art looks nice. But as anyone with even a single brain cell can tell you, art can be deceptive. Especially if it's old. There's no telling when the art shown last year was created, whether it'll be accurate to the ride, or whether its indicative of the other scenes.
If Charita Carter and Carmen Smith are truly calling all the shots and heavily involved in the creative process of the ride itself, then be very afraid. Again it's critical to reiterate that neither are creatives. In fact, their career histories are typically associated with the suppression of creativity. Carter is an accountant and Smith managed diversity quotas for TV programming. I'll leave it at that, as anything else will probably get me in trouble (and possibly cause people to make incorrect assumptions about what I personally believe). The possible silver lining is that there are tons of other people actually designing and building the ride. And much of the backstory nonsense Carter and Smith have been trotting out in their videos seems unrelated to the the actual ride contents. Still, not having competent creatives at the head of the project was/is extremely concerning.
Incidentally, Tony not only defended Splash Mountain, but also the film it was based on. And as polite as he was about the matter, he stated sensitivity has gotten completely out of control. He's correct of course, though I hope no lunatics target him for harassment over these statements.
This doesn't even crack the top 10 of bad decisions, especially if the attraction itself manages to not disappoint.This decision to remove Splash may go down as one of their worst decisions ever made especially considering they needed capacity elsewhere and this could have been a nice addition.
Won't really know where it lands until the ride opens, but I'm pretty darn positive it's on the list somewhere.This doesn't even crack the top 10 of bad decisions, especially if the attraction itself manages to not disappoint.
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