News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

TheMaxRebo

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I haven't been on it yet, but it certainly looks like a vastly superior ride to Ratatouille, Guardians, TRON, or Smuggler's Run.

it is - well, Guardians is similar level (to me) but very different.

Rise is 3 interconnected ride systems plus part performance art/interactive theater with the role of the CMs, etc. ... its really unique as far as a theme park experience. I can understand just not liking it or not thinking it was worth the $ or the trouble as it does go down a lot - but no way to say it is a bad thing
 

Epcot82Guy

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Rise is a multi-part attraction that, when taken in its whole, is definitely a Disney "ride". It has relatability issues, and there is a valid argument it can be over hyped. But, it is very tough to argue it isn't a major E Ticket attraction.

Similarly, as much as I really dislike a lot of recent decisions -especially destroying Epcot and its theme for a mess. It's tough to argue they haven't been investing in the Parks in the past 5 years. I think it's poor story telling and a lot of wasted money (with a huge need of help on other attractions). But we did get a good number of things each year.
 

seabreezept813

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it is - well, Guardians is similar level (to me) but very different.

Rise is 3 interconnected ride systems plus part performance art/interactive theater with the role of the CMs, etc. ... its really unique as far as a theme park experience. I can understand just not liking it or not thinking it was worth the $ or the trouble as it does go down a lot - but no way to say it is a bad thing
It’s really cool and elaborate. If they could create something like it that had a lot of heart, Disney would amaze me. As for fun, I actually liked MF and Guardians better.
 

BrerFoxesBayouAdventure

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You can totally not like it, but it's beyond ridiculous to single it out as less a ride than some of the other things in the list you quoted. Even if you discount the pre-show, the sequence aboard the transport vessel, and the holding cell, you still have a trackless ride of a length roughly equivalent to Ratatouille with far more physical setpieces and animatronics. If Rise gets your hackles up, why not Ratatouille?
Because Ratatouille is actually fun.

It transcends being just a ride. It's an experience.
Quite literally a once-in-a-lifetime experience. Go on once, you've seen it all.
 

neo999955

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In the Parks
No
I'm only pointing out that things that came to the property. A good question is how many rides and attractions is a good amount per year? Pre covid we were seeing new lands (tsl, pandora, swge) at a pretty good clip and new rides (tron remy gotg, mmrr) being added to thr parks.

Is that the rate we need or do the parks need more than that? Obviously there is some backlog of required capacity, but assuming decent capacity at each park, how fast does wdw need to expand to keep people coming and keep people happy?
To me, I think they should be aiming for at least one major new ride per year with a new land every 3. This is focusing just on lands/attractions.

So repeating every three years:

Year 1Year 2Year 3
E ticket (possible mini-land)E/D ticketNew land (E ticket + smaller ride + food) or (E ticket + food)
Upgrades/showUpgrades/show, foodUpgrades
 

celluloid

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I know it was The Disney Decade and all. And some like to call them unifnished parks, but even with that.

It is wild that from 1989 to 1998. That is nine years. We got Splash Mountain, two entire theme parks, Tower of Terror, Rocknrollercoaster, Muppet Vision 3D, Honey I Shrunk The Audience. Lion King Puppet show at Magic Kingdom, New Parades, Fantasmic A few misses of updated attractions like Tiki Room. Tomorrowland retheme including Timekeeper, Alien Encounter and Buzz Lightyear. EPCOT also had Test Track. Disneyquest. I am not even counting all the lackluster attempts that just did not pan out but were at least built or produced.

Now do 2013 to 2023. Sure there are a few hits, but nothing in comparison.
 

TheMaxRebo

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I know it was The Disney Decade and all. And some like to call them unifnished parks, but even with that.

It is wild that from 1989 to 1998. That is nine years. We got Splash Mountain, two entire theme parks, Tower of Terror, Rocknrollercoaster, Muppet Vision 3D, Honey I Shrunk The Audience. Lion King Puppet show at Magic Kingdom, New Parades, Fantasmic A few misses of updated attractions like Tiki Room. Tomorrowland retheme including Timekeeper, Alien Encounter and Buzz Lightyear. EPCOT also had Test Track. Disneyquest. I am not even counting all the lackluster attempts that just did not pan out but were at least built or produced.

Now do 2013 to 2023. Sure there are a few hits, but nothing in comparison.

Obviously no new gates which is a big thing, but from 2012- 2020 (up to COVID) we did get:
- New Fantasyland (Under the Sea, Tales with Belle, BiG, Double Dumbo, etc)
- Test Track 2.0
- Festival of Fantasy parade
- 7DMT
- Frozen Ever After
- Fairytale Hall and new Anna Else M&G
- Happily Ever After and Rivers of Light
- World of Pandora (FoP and Navi)
- Toy Story Land (SDD and AS2)
- Galaxy Edge (Rise and MFSR)
- Skyliner
- MMRR

(Plus lots of restaurants and DVCs)

Now maybe some of those aren't your favorites s, but over an 8+ year period, that is a lot .... And if they kept up that pace I think we'd be feeling a lot different

But then Vivid and they scaled back Epcot and stretched out opening Remy/Tron/GotG, and now don't really have much started/in the pipeline - that I think is then bigger issue
 

Dranth

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I know it was The Disney Decade and all. And some like to call them unifnished parks, but even with that.

It is wild that from 1989 to 1998. That is nine years. We got Splash Mountain, two entire theme parks, Tower of Terror, Rocknrollercoaster, Muppet Vision 3D, Honey I Shrunk The Audience. Lion King Puppet show at Magic Kingdom, New Parades, Fantasmic A few misses of updated attractions like Tiki Room. Tomorrowland retheme including Timekeeper, Alien Encounter and Buzz Lightyear. EPCOT also had Test Track. Disneyquest. I am not even counting all the lackluster attempts that just did not pan out but were at least built or produced.

Now do 2013 to 2023. Sure there are a few hits, but nothing in comparison.
2013 brought us Glow with the Show and 2015 saw the removal of the sorcerers hat in DHS so by default it wins!

Beyond that we have 7DMT, FEA, Toy Story land, GE, Pandora, Tron, Rat, GotG, MMRR, Festival of Fantasy, lots of smaller shows and some restaurants, more festivals at Epcot, HEA (twice), harm, EF (twice) almost all of what is now Disney Springs and I few other things I am sure I am missing.

That looks better when you consider most of the major additions where in a 3–5-year time frame. Pandora (2017), Toy Story Land (2018), GE (2019) all opened in back-to-back years. We were due Tron, Rat, MMRR and GotG all for the 50th in 2020/2021 and who knows what they may have built if they didn’t' slam the breaks on everything.

Opinions on the new stuff aside, I think that is what bugs me the most, they were finally starting to spend and build after YEARS of doing little and then 2020 happens. I get slowing things down and pausing to get your bearings in a time like that but they made roughly no plans as evidenced by the last D23.
 

Epcot82Guy

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Obviously no new gates which is a big thing, but from 2012- 2020 (up to COVID) we did get:
- New Fantasyland (Under the Sea, Tales with Belle, BiG, Double Dumbo, etc)
- Test Track 2.0
- Festival of Fantasy parade
- 7DMT
- Frozen Ever After
- Fairytale Hall and new Anna Else M&G
- Happily Ever After and Rivers of Light
- World of Pandora (FoP and Navi)
- Toy Story Land (SDD and AS2)
-
Galaxy Edge (Rise and MFSR)
- Skyliner
- MMRR

(Plus lots of restaurants and DVCs)

I think your list actually highlights the bigger problem. They opened a number of new DVC projects and some new restaurants. But, of those above, a large number are replacements. And that's becoming more true with the projects on the horizon. These often have lower capacity than that they replaced.

So, it's more like them replacing all the Values with DVC than development of new hotels.
 

celluloid

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Obviously no new gates which is a big thing, but from 2012- 2020 (up to COVID) we did get:
- New Fantasyland (Under the Sea, Tales with Belle, BiG, Double Dumbo, etc)
- Test Track 2.0
- Festival of Fantasy parade
- 7DMT
- Frozen Ever After
- Fairytale Hall and new Anna Else M&G
- Happily Ever After and Rivers of Light
- World of Pandora (FoP and Navi)
- Toy Story Land (SDD and AS2)
- Galaxy Edge (Rise and MFSR)
- Skyliner
- MMRR

(Plus lots of restaurants and DVCs)

Now maybe some of those aren't your favorites s, but over an 8+ year period, that is a lot .... And if they kept up that pace I think we'd be feeling a lot different

But then Vivid and they scaled back Epcot and stretched out opening Remy/Tron/GotG, and now don't really have much started/in the pipeline - that I think is then bigger issue

Yeah...that does not really compare though to what was mentioned above. Two of them don't even exist anymore and two others are flat rides. You tossed in the DVC resorts and resteraunts. I did not even list the details of Pleasure Island and all the Disney hotels that came between 1989 and 1998. I also forgot Wonders of Life Pavilion and Ellen's Energy Adventure, Innoventions, Beauty and The Beast, Magic Carpets of Aladdin, Goofy's Barnstormer and all the minor projects both adored and meh like completely redesigning the left half of Center Street to expand the emporium.

Then you have Disneyquest completely given up on with nothing in the building facility, Stitch's Great Escape, shorts that are not custom mad for park but dvd consumer shorts playing in a 3D theater. Many other shuttered unused venue space.

No fault of your listing of course. You did a good job compiling it.
 
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celluloid

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Opinions on the new stuff aside, I think that is what bugs me the most, they were finally starting to spend and build after YEARS of doing little and then 2020 happens. I get slowing things down and pausing to get your bearings in a time like that but they made roughly no plans as evidenced by the last D23.

And that is still a choice. Other parks big and small did not halt building as much.
Sea World and Busch Gardens have each opened two rides since the Pandemic
Cedar Point has opened two rides since the Pandemic and working on their third revamp of Top Thrill project for next year.
King's Island opened a giga coaster and rethemed an area since the pandemic and the went to retheme an entire area.
Universal has done a lot resort wide since the pandemic and following years.
Disney was happy to finish loose ends, close a bunch of venues and focus all of their attention on retheming their log flume. For how big of a company and advancements, they don't put it back into the attractions anymore.
 

TheMaxRebo

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Yeah...that does not really compare though to what was mentioned above. Two of them don't even exist anymore and two others are flat rides. You tossed in the DVC resorts and resteraunts. I did not even list the details of Pleasure Island and all the Disney hotels that came between 1989 and 1998. I also forgot Wonders of Life Pavilion and Ellen's Energy Adventure, Innoventions, Beauty and The Beast, Magic Carpets of Aladdin, Goofy's Barnstormer and all the minor projects both adored and meh like completely redesigning the left half of Center Street to expand the emporium.

Then you have Disneyquest completely given up on with nothing in the building facility, Stitch's Great Escape, shorts that are not custom mad for park but dvd consumer shorts playing in a 3D theater. Many other shuttered unused venue space.

No fault of your listing of course. You did a good job compiling it.

Definitely doesn't compare - really somewhat incredible how close together Disney opened MGM and AK

Just sometimes I think easy to forget there was quite a bit of investment in the 2010s, it just really scaled back around COVID and then nothing much coming (that we know of/has started) now when Universal is going gangbusters .... But this extremeness is more of the past 3 years, not past 15
 

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