Disgruntled Walt
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@Ne'er-Do-Well Cad is right! He CAN play!
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Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion
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Disgruntled Walt
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@mickEblu is the BEE'S KNEES!
Disney Analyst
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Too Many Hats
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Me too. The “They can play!” dialogue should feel less asinine at Disneyland, where the logs speed past the show scenes.
Too bad WDI can’t do anything at this point about the lift hill, where Charita’s team apparently shrugged and gave up. “Good enough. If we leave now, we can be home by 6.”
I’m not much of cruise guy, but this sounds fantastic.
But Disney has really lowered their standards in the past five years, and allowing a group of professionals like Viking to educate and entertain you through the power of modern storytelling really makes that point painfully clear.
It’s sad to see. But to your point, high standards are alive and well elsewhere. Disney is practically begging us to spend our money at those places instead.
CaptinEO
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Is the children's garden a playground? Or just more "storytelling".
PiratesMansion
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Are they, though?
Apart from maybe Universal and parks that almost no one here actually cares about like Dollywood and Silver Dollar City, where are these high standards alive in the amusement park industry in this country that are stratospherically higher than Disney's? Who is objectively beating Disney at their own game?
DarkMetroid567
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Yeah, the international equivalents would be some of the euro parks like Europa, Phantasialand, and Efteling, and even then I would probably stop the list there. Dollywood and SDC are great examples but even they have some annoying operational struggles.
Even if the argument is alluding to Universal, their rides still suffer from some quality issues too. VillainCon was a dud, and I recently visited Universal Beijing which, while an awesome park, already had stuff not working on some of their major rides.
Too Many Hats
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Oh, I was referring to other industries entirely (for example, Viking cruises, as TP2000 was discussing). Disney is still the leader in theme parks by all metrics. It makes their declining standards and soaring prices even more depressing, IMO.
That said, in terms of customer service specifically, I really don’t think Disney is doing anything in 2024 that Universal isn’t also doing. I think nostalgia is the only difference at this point.
Honestly, I’d argue even Cedar Point may have higher standards than Disney for its employees. It’s something of an apples/oranges comparison, but in my experience CP employees are incredibly present/focused, proactive, professional in appearance, and friendly. There’s clearly a standard to which they are held, and it’s taken seriously. At Disneyland (in 2024), many CMs are good, but many others are subpar; there doesn’t appear to be some standard everyone is striving to meet.
Too Many Hats
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Have to admit, I actually think these bears are pretty cute. Their limited motion is super disappointing (they're not AAs; they're moving figures), but at Disneyland they might still read as "joyful and kinetic" as we speed past them at about 80mph.
Well, I guess when I say "these bears are cute," I'm referring to the bear in front and the bear on the right. We can't really see the face of the bear in the back. This is a staging issue throughout this ride; the critters frequently have instruments in front of their faces.
Also we're left to wonder why the gray fox is there. Why not an all-bear band? Maybe the gray fox could've shown up as drummer for every group of musicians, as a recurring bit (in the shrunken scene, we could see giant AA fox feet tapping along to the frogs). Louis could say, "Boy, that gray fox can't turn down a gig!" I guess humor was off the table for this attraction.
Actually, do Tiana and Louis ever shout out specific critters? My brain typically becomes numb when I try to watch POVs, but my sense is that their dialogue is limited to the "They can play!" stuff. It might be a subtle plus-up to have Louis instead say, "I can bear-ly contain myself listening to this trio! Tiana, what's this party's budget for honey?" or "These bobcats got me bobbin' along!"
Well, I guess when I say "these bears are cute," I'm referring to the bear in front and the bear on the right. We can't really see the face of the bear in the back. This is a staging issue throughout this ride; the critters frequently have instruments in front of their faces.
Also we're left to wonder why the gray fox is there. Why not an all-bear band? Maybe the gray fox could've shown up as drummer for every group of musicians, as a recurring bit (in the shrunken scene, we could see giant AA fox feet tapping along to the frogs). Louis could say, "Boy, that gray fox can't turn down a gig!" I guess humor was off the table for this attraction.
Actually, do Tiana and Louis ever shout out specific critters? My brain typically becomes numb when I try to watch POVs, but my sense is that their dialogue is limited to the "They can play!" stuff. It might be a subtle plus-up to have Louis instead say, "I can bear-ly contain myself listening to this trio! Tiana, what's this party's budget for honey?" or "These bobcats got me bobbin' along!"
Too Many Hats
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I loved Splash at Disneyland, but the "How Do Ya Do?" section had some dead spaces that were a little too dark. Really hoping WDI tastefully implements these screens/projections to brighten up those spaces (or at least make them a little more interesting) on Disneyland's TBA. I'm not holding my breath, but it'd be an excellent way to overcome the limitations of the layout.
Also, I wonder if they'll use screens/projections to enclose this moment (the gap in the sets just prior to Br'er Rabbit's intro)? Or is it perhaps a maintenance necessity?
Also, I wonder if they'll use screens/projections to enclose this moment (the gap in the sets just prior to Br'er Rabbit's intro)? Or is it perhaps a maintenance necessity?
DarkMetroid567
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Cedar Point attraction ops are always top-tier, but just about everyone else tends to not be the best. Cedar Fair parks, with the exception of Knotts and maybe Kings Island, in general kinda feel this way.
Disney Analyst
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So it feels like Disneyland decided to not do the bottles at the drop? I feel like they’d be installed already…
mickEblu
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Probably because the old Brer Fox scene was a little bit further down the lifthill. Not that they couldn’t have put some up there anyway.
PiratesMansion
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Right. It's pretty easy to think of International places that uphold these standards, but domestically not so much.
Ok, that makes sense then.
Unfortunately, Disney still probably has better customer service than many operators out there even with the declines of the last decade.
Cedar Point operationally is nothing compared to what it was a decade or so ago. Now, their employees are professional and friendly, but alas, their ops are largely indifferent. Better than Knott's, but not a patch on what they once were. Kings Island has better ops and service now than Cedar Point (and also benefits from not having perpetual, ongoing staffing issues to the same degree that CP does).
disneylandcm
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Having worked at both Disneyland and Knott’s Berry Farm as an adult I can tell you that expectation standards are similar but the quality of the workers at Disneyland and the enforcement of those standards is higher there than at Knott’s. I’m very fond of Knott’s so I found that disappointing.
Disney Analyst
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From twitter @DisneyScoopGuy
Disney Irish
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The lighting package is going to make it pop at night.
JSouth25
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Not to be a Disneyland homer, but I feel more and more like we got the better version out here.
Vegas Disney Fan
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When we saw it in person a few weeks ago we said the same thing, our “barn” looks so much better with the yellow and green trim vs WDWs yellow, brown trim, and their murals. I still prefer their side by side seating though, and their view of the castle from the ride is incredible.