Too Many Hats
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Disneyland doesn't need two attractions with bayou scenes. Especially since the 2024 attraction isn't doing anything meaningfully different than the 1967 attraction.
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Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion
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mickEblu
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Not to mention the 1967 bayou works because it's merely the opening credits to the movie. Not the movie itself.
Reminds me, "Adventure" is so over used. What a waste to use it on the Tiana ride where there is none. At least Tiana's Bayou Splash would have made sense.
Too Many Hats
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Has anyone transposed MK's Tiana scene-by-scene onto the Disneyland flume? Totally guessing...
Br'er Bear caught in Br'er Fox's trap --> 6-critter zydeco band
Donkey --> Tiana saying "They can play! No doubt. We'll ask them to join the band for sure."
Br'er Rabbit & Br'er Terrapin --> Tiana, Louis, & 2 critters "My my, this band can jam!"
Hitchhiking Alligator --> Tiana saying "They can play. We'll definitely invite them to the party! But we gotta keep searching high and low" / Louis "How low can I go?"
Br'er Bear caught in Br'er Fox's trap --> 6-critter zydeco band
Donkey --> Tiana saying "They can play! No doubt. We'll ask them to join the band for sure."
Br'er Rabbit & Br'er Terrapin --> Tiana, Louis, & 2 critters "My my, this band can jam!"
Hitchhiking Alligator --> Tiana saying "They can play. We'll definitely invite them to the party! But we gotta keep searching high and low" / Louis "How low can I go?"
Too Many Hats
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Wow, I hadn't even thought of this. Not only do we already have a ride with a bayou sequence, it's simply the preface to a more epic adventure.
It was already an embarrassing trend for the "artists" at WDI, but TBA is the worst example yet. Gathering musicians for a party is not an adventure.
Too Many Hats
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Another great picture!
I am pretty sure I recall reading some of Tony’s comments years ago about what it was like to have that responsibility of moving and keeping the ‘America Sings’ figures operational.
He enjoyed that show back when it was running, and he loved those character figures so wanted to do what he could to try to save them.
So they were included in the cast for ‘Splash Mountain’ almost from the start.
Some claim the figures were only saved because ‘Splash Mountain’ was way over budget and it was a desperation move.
They couldn’t afford the time or money for new figures, so reused the recently evicted critters from ‘Sings’.
I don’t buy that story…as I know I have heard Tony say he wanted to save those figures and they were always planned to be included in the ‘Zip-a-Dee River Run’.
The early storyboards and concept works show this to be true.
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I can't wait to hear Tony weigh in on Tiana's Bayou Adventure.
Sharon&Susan
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Too Many Hats
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Haha. Seriously though. Can't believe the number of people defending TBA's lack of conflict/drama/plot/suspense, insisting Splash's story beats were simply unnecessary. According to one prominent commentator: Pooh doesn't have suspenseful story moments; why does Splash need them?
TP2000
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Another great picture!
I am pretty sure I recall reading some of Tony’s comments years ago about what it was like to have that responsibility of moving and keeping the ‘America Sings’ figures operational.
He enjoyed that show back when it was running, and he loved those character figures so wanted to do what he could to try to save them.
So they were included in the cast for ‘Splash Mountain’ almost from the start.
Some claim the figures were only saved because ‘Splash Mountain’ was way over budget and it was a desperation move.
They couldn’t afford the time or money for new figures, so reused the recently evicted critters from ‘Sings’.
I don’t buy that story…as I know I have heard Tony say he wanted to save those figures and they were always planned to be included in the ‘Zip-a-Dee River Run’.
The early storyboards and concept works show this to be true.
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That's about what I expected, thank you for confirming!
America Sings didn't close until the spring of '88, a year before they wanted Splash Mountain open. There's no way they would have started construction on Splash in April '87 if they didn't already know where all the animatronics were going to come from.
I loved America Sings, it was just a real family favorite for us in the 70's and 80's. We never skipped it. But when the AA's showed up in Splash Mountain a year later, it definitely softened the blow.
Too Many Hats
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Been meaning to bring up this concept art. Was it really not possible to have even one Tiana AA positioned actually doing something, as opposed to simply standing and facing riders directly?
Too Many Hats
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This is where the ride jumps the shark. 30 seconds of nothing, while Tiana sits there staring into space.
Disgruntled Walt
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I wish the ride actually jumped a shark. That would be an adventure!
Rich T
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Good grief!
Does that person not realize that Splash Mountain was praised BECAUSE it used its drops to emphasize danger points in the story?And even Pooh features the characters facing home-destroying winds, a flood and thieving monsters. TBA is too timid to offer even those kind of mild obstacles to overcome.
Do the defenders really believe TBA’s happy-happy grinfest is a satisfying “ADVENTURE?” If so… if what they really wanted was Small World with a 50 foot drop… cripes, they can have it.
TP2000
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Good grief!
And even Pooh features the characters facing home-destroying winds, a flood and thieving monsters. TBA is too timid to offer even those kind of mild obstacles to overcome.
No kidding. My youngest nephew rode Pooh when it opened in '03, and the Heffalumps and Woozles scene scared him, he hid in his dad's side until we got back outside, and it gave him nightmares for the rest of the trip. His older brother still teases him about that to this day, once they've both had a glass of whiskey or Scotch.
With the exception of Small World, Tiana's Bayou Adventure is the only Disney dark ride in existence that has absolutely no danger, no villain, or no threatening environments of any kind. And it's boring as all heck because of that.
Ghost93
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Tiana also looks much more like her movie counterpart here than she does in the final version of the ride.
Rich T
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See, now, this… THIS is an ADVENTURE. This DESERVES to have the word in its title. With three minutes of fictional peril, this roller coaster spins a simple, effective tale: Hagrid, being Hagrid, did not see the flaw in his lesson plan, and now you’re on a sentient, runaway motorbike.
It’s simultaneously thrilling and funny, perfectly in character, builds satisfyingly to a climactic peril/rescue/escape finale and ends with my favorite closing lines of all time: “I’d be grateful if you didn’t mention any of this to anyone back at Hogwarts. See you next lesson!”
No moral, no lesson (wonderfully ironic because it literally takes place during a lesson) and no forced-smile, hollow self-affirmation party. Just survival and FUN (and a unicorn encounter your teacher has just asked everyone to keep quiet about).
It only features a handful of AAs, but each one is used effectively. The coaster would still be thrilling without the story, but it’s the story—the ADVENTURE—that leaves everyone with huge smiles on their faces and warm fuzzies in their hearts.
Now if they’d just shorten the name… Wait a second—Tiana can have the superfluous words!
Hagrid’s Motorbike Adventure
Tiana’s Magical Creatures Bayou
There— Fixed both!
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Rich T
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I can’t believe they went to such effort to remove all the fun and thrills of the PatF IP.
It’s like if they remodeled Alice in Wonderland so that instead of going to Wonderland, you just go to a bland normal tea gathering at Alice’s house and everyone’s polite and telling everyone how special they are.
Too Many Hats
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Yep. It’s wild that this storyline was greenlit. They knew the stakes were high, and they went with the laziest, lowest common denominator premise.
“Let’s venture into the bayou to find musicians for the party!” is suitable enough as the macguffin for the story, but woefully insufficient as the entirety of the attraction experience.
There should be a change in mood after we find the zydeco critter band. The tone should become more, uh, adventurous.
It’s like if guests never get captured by the First Order on Rise. But the Resistance throws them a party at the end anyway.
CaptinEO
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Yes but how many research trips did they do for Hagrid's? Tiana's has to be better.View attachment 790850
See, now, this… THIS is an ADVENTURE. This DESERVES to have the word in its title. With three minutes of fictional peril, this roller coaster spins a simple, effective tale: Hagrid, being Hagrid, did not see the flaw in his lesson plan, and now you’re on a sentient, runaway motorbike.
It’s simultaneously thrilling and funny, perfectly in character, builds satisfyingly to a climactic peril/rescue/escape finale and ends with my favorite closing lines of all time: “I’d be grateful if you didn’t mention any of this to anyone back at Hogwarts. See you next lesson!”
No moral, no lesson (wonderfully ironic because it literally takes place during a lesson) and no forced-smile, hollow self-affirmation party. Just survival and FUN (and a unicorn encounter your teacher has just asked everyone to keep quiet about).
It only features a handful of AAs, but each one is used effectively. The coaster would still be thrilling without the story, but it’s the story—the ADVENTURE—that leaves everyone with huge smiles on their faces and warm fuzzies in their hearts.
Now if they’d just shorten the name… Wait a second—Tiana can have the superfluous words!
Hagrid’s Motorbike Adventure
Tiana’s Magical Creatures Bayou
There— Fixed both!
Too Many Hats
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There isn’t a single employee-owned shop in Hogsmeade.