Forgot to address this. My words don’t matter to you either, it seems, since you’ve claimed that I have an axe to grind with, despite saying I don’t multiple times.
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Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion
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CaptinEO
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Apologies for saying you have an axe to grind since you said this is not the case. It seems you have very intense responses to people being openly critical even if its lighthearted about Disney's PR releases. You have a right to your own opinion and all but you seem upset at people with this opinion.
You are just doubting my own words and being sarcastic.
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You are just doubting my own words and being sarcastic.
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Splash Mountain is a simple name, but so are Haunted Mansion and Space Mountain. All of them are good rides so fine by me. I know a lot of people will disagree, but I wish they were keeping the name.
More than anything I just really, really want to know why we are falling down the mountain this time if we're not being thrown into the briar patch by Br'er Fox anymore.
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This will be the last time I address this micro-aggression, one that has been repeatedly used in this thread towards me, despite having repeated that I am perfectly calm.
Automatically calling a black woman “angry” or “upset” when she is passionate with her words and is not afraid to debate/discuss/challenge is not only painfully
cliché and typical, but it’s also a micro-aggression. What’s very interesting is I’m not the only passionate one who regularly posts in this sub-forum, but I am the only one who’s been referred to as “angry” and “upset” multiple times. There have been numerous passionate posts, ranging from those related to homophobia, race, disappointment with Disney’s decisions, opinions on the state of the parks, land aesthetics, etc. We have all posted passionate posts. But, of course, I am angry and upset and the only angry and upset one. Obviously.
I am not angry when I post. I am not upset when I post. I am not personally affected enough by the opinions of folks that I’ve never met to be angered or upset by anything they post here. I have never once been angered by anyone here. Annoyed? Sure. Angered and upset? Literally NEVER. I have already said this multiple times in this thread alone.
I will be ignoring any future accusations of being angry or upset and will not address it again.
Returning to the meat of the post, you have been sarcastic towards me and sarcastic in general multiple times. You also post passionate and “intense” responses. It goes both ways, and I am not going to pretend like it does not.
I hope you enjoy the rest of your evening.
CaptinEO
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Huh? Sorry but from how I read things it seemed like you were attacking anyone with a different opinion and were bothered by it.
I see now that this is not your intention but sometimes things come across differently in text than they would in an in person conversation.
I literally posted I'm wishing for the best outcome and going to give the ride a fair shot and your responses are disbelief and sarcasm.
You are the person in this thread trying to shut down people who say anything critical about the ride, myself included. I usually let your comments roll off but I figured I'd respond to you this time.
It has nothing to do with race or gender. You can call me a bigot but that's not who I am at all. I'm not even going to entertain the ridiculous notion of that harmful and completely incorrect accusation.
I sincerely wish you the best.
Dear Prudence
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It used to be easier to follow when all the lights were on, the audio worked, and it wasn't do fast. The narrative was explicitly stated in the lyrics.
Alas.
Kirby86
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Yeah typically it helps to have all parts of the ride working but Disney dosen't have time for all that silly maintenance.
BrerFoxesBayouAdventure
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'specially at WDW. The Br'er Frog animatronic in the Laughin' Place had its hydraulic pipes leaking. And Br'er Fox was slumped over and his mouth wasn't moving when it was supposed to.
Br'er Frog looked stoned on whatever they were cooking up in the Laughin' Place.
Professortango1
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I didn't know you were a black woman, so my statement wasn't based upon your gender or race and my perception of such. No micro-aggression intended from me.
No worries at all. I’ve moved on and think we should re-focus.
I want to reiterate that folks are welcome to share their opinions. It’s why I created the thread.
Here's a great video that really shows how miserable Florida's went out
mlayton144
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Does the
Housekeeping question - does the person creating a thread have to grant permission for someone to comment , have an opinion , or a question? Very odd comment
You missed the conversation that I moved on from. If you want to see where my comment stems from, feel free to go back a few pages.
Dear Prudence
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Regardless of it changing to not, the fact that the parks are in this state and everyone just seems okay with it, is... a lot to take in.
You're 100% right. I've come to peace with Splash Mountain being gone forever, but the amount you pay for admission (and Genie Plus) only to have things break down all the time is disappointing.
When I went to WDW last year for the first time since 2011 I had 2 rides break down on me on the same day while at Magic Kingdom. Another day I had to wait 1 hour for Splash Mountain because it broke down.
When I went to Disneyland in May, I didn't get to ride Indiana Jones or It's A Small World because, you guessed it, they both broke down.
Things happen sometimes of course, but I wonder how TBA's maintenance will be.
I’ve gone to the parks twice in the past almost four years, and that’s only because I was invited and my tickets were comped. While the opening of this ride will get me to buy a ticket, as well as my twin niece and nephew’s 2nd birthday, I’ve scaled back my visits significantly for many reasons, reasons I’ve already mentioned many times.
I actually like not having a pass and distancing myself from the parks by just going once every few years, as it helps keep my expectations in check and I actually enjoy the parks more. When I was a passholder and going all the time with each year, I found myself more disappointed as a guest because I was noticing a lot of things due to my constant visiting. I would be upset and take things personally, but then turn around and go back. That wasn’t healthy behavior and the message I was sending to Disney was that no matter what they did, I’d be loyal and return. I went back last year and had a wonderful time. It had been nearly three years since I was last in the parks and the time that passed really helped me appreciate my now limited time and enjoy every second of it. Things didn’t bother me as much and I was there to enjoy myself. For now, I’m going to keep doing this, where I go once every few years or for special occasions and refrain from getting a pass. It’s better that way, personally. Disney’s going to do what they’re going to do, and I can’t change that. Since accepting this, coupled with cutting the umbilical cord between myself and the parks, I don’t get nearly as upset and offended as I used to get and I’m able to enjoy things more.
I actually like not having a pass and distancing myself from the parks by just going once every few years, as it helps keep my expectations in check and I actually enjoy the parks more. When I was a passholder and going all the time with each year, I found myself more disappointed as a guest because I was noticing a lot of things due to my constant visiting. I would be upset and take things personally, but then turn around and go back. That wasn’t healthy behavior and the message I was sending to Disney was that no matter what they did, I’d be loyal and return. I went back last year and had a wonderful time. It had been nearly three years since I was last in the parks and the time that passed really helped me appreciate my now limited time and enjoy every second of it. Things didn’t bother me as much and I was there to enjoy myself. For now, I’m going to keep doing this, where I go once every few years or for special occasions and refrain from getting a pass. It’s better that way, personally. Disney’s going to do what they’re going to do, and I can’t change that. Since accepting this, coupled with cutting the umbilical cord between myself and the parks, I don’t get nearly as upset and offended as I used to get and I’m able to enjoy things more.
Epcot81Fan
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Well, thank God she did, otherwise there never would have been a thread about Splash Mountain closing at Disneyland in the Disneyland forum.
Smart choice.
I grew up a diehard, and I was known by everybody in my life for it. Then Disneyland started losing me in 2017. At first, I thought it was just me. Others told me I was simply growing up now that I was in my 20s, until I realized a lot of other people felt the same. Granted, I have not been opposed to every change made since then, but the best way I can describe this transition is it feels like growing apart from an old friend. You still enjoy some aspects of them, but both of your priorities have changed over the years, and you can't ignore the fact that things aren't going to be the same anymore. The major difference is that, of course, Disney is a corporation, not our friend. But when you're a child, you don't really understand the business side of things.
Back on the topic of Tiana's Bayou Adventure, I obviously loved Splash Mountain and rode it more times than any other ride ever made, but I'm just one person, and I acknowledge world doesn't revolve around my own experiences or my own feelings. I'm grateful for the time I did have with it, and that is what helped me come to terms with what is no more.
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You’re definitely not the only one. I too grew up a diehard Disneyland and Disney fan in general. Not only did I go to Disneyland a lot as a child, but I was privileged enough to have an uncle that was head of security for the Walt Disney Studios, so I spent random days there in Burbank and got to attend a lot of exclusive Disney events that obviously were not open to the general public. We were at the El Capitan for almost every Disney movie released. I was a CM back in 2011. My life revolved around Disney for a good portion of my life.
Things started shifting for me in 2017, too. Excluding the things I disagreed with regarding the parks, my interests and priorities simply started changing because I was maturing and experiencing different things. I had left the country for the first time ever, something I’d wanted to do since I was a kid. I came back from Ireland and traveling, specifically international travel, almost became like a drug; I was already looking for the next hit. The next year in 2018, I went to England and the Dominican Republic. 2019 was the last year I had my annual pass, so it took just two years after Ireland for me to let it go and focus my attention and priorities on seeing as many places in the world as possible, both here and abroad, before that option is no longer available to me. I took myself to Italy for a month that same year, with a stop in Germany, and literally had the best time of my life as an adult. I’m going to Denmark in November and I’m looking forward to my trip.
You described it perfectly: it’s like growing apart from an old friend. And that’s okay. We’re still friends, it’s just things are different. Change is inevitable. Sometimes it’s in our control and sometimes it isn’t. That’s life. Disney’s decision-making has never been in my control and never will. So, getting all mad and upset and offended and bitter about things I have no control over regarding the parks is a complete waste of my time and energy. I’m done doing that. I finally came to this conclusion a few years ago. I have one life; I’m not trying to spend too much of my limited time here being mad that Disneyland is changing, something it’s been doing since it opened.
And who am I? Why should my own vision of how the parks should be run matter? I grew up seeing Splash Mountain during every Disneyland trip. It was iconic and a classic. And now, TBA will be familiar to future generations of Disneyland fans and will likely be iconic and classic to them. Such is life. I can’t do anything to change that, so I’ve moved on. I’ve got bigger, way more important things to be concerned about than anything related to theme parks. When I do go, I will enjoy the things I enjoy, have fun, leave, and return another time. I have no desire to go multiple times per year, every year. It’s best that way.Welcome to the forums, by the way. I look forward to reading future commentary from you and engaging in more discussion.
