Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[Honeycomb]

I might be among the few- but I will never ride the Tiana version. I'm already planning on a nice long break from Disneyland, unless I'm in town for something else and a friend offers to sign me in- but I plan on never riding Tiana's Salt Mine

Look on the bright side: you'll save a lot of money.

 

[drizgirl]

Probably not, but I always imagined the Zip-A-Dee-Lady finale would become some sort of Mardi Gras party, since they told us that Tiana is throwing a party and all of us are invited, as well as that one piece of concept art.

No fun allowed.

 

[CaptinEO]

Mkay.

Thanks for the snark and completely ignoring what I'm actually saying. It really adds a lot to the conversation.

 

[CaptinEO]

I don’t have an axe to grind with an extinct theme park ride. Whether you choose to believe that or not, that’s up to you. It doesn’t affect me either way. What agenda or ulterior motive would I have surrounding a theme park ride that is no longer here? I’m one of just two posters here continuously challenging the constant negativity. I can be passionate in my responses, and I’m always ready to challenge what folks are saying in this thread. If folks don’t like what I have to say, the MK version of this thread is a safe haven for others who are also dismissing the ride before it’s opened. And I don’t post in that thread. Yaaay.

The fact you are going on here just to continually challenge people means you have an axe to grind with anyone who has any criticism for what has been released for the ride.

People can be critical or happy with something before it comes out and also build a unique and full opinion when that same thing is a finished product. It isn't mutually exclusive.

 

[ParkPeeker]

Let’s not be silly and call out 1 poster as having a personal axe to grind. Have you been reading other posts at all, one of them blatantly posted how they are never riding this ride. Or how about the one who replied with an 8 + paragraph self justifying post to start a whole personal argument … let’s be for real now

 

[Californian Elitist]

The same way people say a movie doesn't look good or a meal doesn't look good based on the marketing.

Consumers making judgements about the quality of an experience they haven't experienced based on marketing is the norm. Not sure why the concept eludes you.

Also, do you "challenge" those who are excited for the ride which doesn't exist, or only those who are disappointed in the marketing?

Once again, I’m not talking about that. I’m not talking about general reactions to what’s been provided so far. I’m talking about those who’ve already decided that it’s a bad ride. Not those who don’t like the concept art or who are skeptical.

Why would I challenge someone who’s excited to experience the ride?

Thanks for the snark and completely ignoring what I'm actually saying. It really adds a lot to the conversation.

You’re welcome.

The day before I made that comment, you called DCA the ugliest Disney theme park without having ever been to all of the Disney theme parks, hence my response. It was very ironic that you’d say something like that, given your previous comment the day before.

The fact you are going on here just to continually challenge people means you have an axe to grind with anyone who has any criticism for what has been released for the ride.

People can be critical or happy with something before it comes out and also build a unique and full opinion when that same thing is a finished product. It isn't mutually exclusive.

Okay then. Methinks the definition of “having an axe to grind with” is lost on some folks.

This is my thread. I created it. Returning to my own thread and challenging opinions is normal and doesn’t mean I have an ulterior motive, as you and @Professortango1 suggest. Once again, you are welcome to have your thoughts and opinions about what’s been presented so far. I don’t respond to every opinion about the salt mine, thoughts on the concept art, etc. because I don’t see a point all the time. The ridiculousness and absurdity I’m referring to is the opposite of what you mentioned in the last section of your post: people already having a full opinion before the ride has even opened. There have been other example of absurdity, but for the last few posts, that’s what I’ve been referencing.

 

[Epcot81Fan]

My prediction was "Tiana's Bayou Bash." Guess I was close enough, but I do agree with you. We have Adventureland, Indiana Jones Adventure, California Adventure, probably more that I'm not remembering off the top of my head, and now Tiana's Bayou Adventure.

Guess we're all looking for a little adventure, eh?

Don’t forget Adventureland Treehouse just in case you forget which land it’s in.

#wdicreativity

 

[Californian Elitist]

Let’s not be silly and call out 1 poster as having a personal axe to grind. Have you been reading other posts at all, one of them blatantly posted how they are never riding this ride. Or how about the one who replied with an 8 + paragraph self justifying post to start a whole personal argument … let’s be for real now

Thank you. Like…?

 

[Dear Prudence]

Haha. To be fair, WDI has thrown a lot at us. Mardi Gras party, Tiana's co-op, 17 new critter characters, legit art and music from Black New Orleans artists, a quest for a missing ingredient, beignet smells, Tiana's father's WWI service, a line of hot sauces. It's hard to pin down what exactly the attraction will be.

This honestly all just sounds like a mess.

 

[CaptinEO]

Once again, I’m not talking about that. I’m not talking about general reactions to what’s been provided so far. I’m talking about those who’ve already decided that it’s a bad ride. Not those who don’t like the concept art or who are skeptical.

Why would I challenge someone who’s excited to experience the ride?

You’re welcome.

The day before I made that comment, you called DCA the ugliest Disney theme park without having ever been to all of the Disney theme parks, hence my response. It was very ironic that you’d say something like that, given your previous comment the day before.

Okay then. Methinks the definition of “having an axe to grind with” is lost on some folks.

This is my thread. I created it. Returning to my own thread and challenging opinions is normal and doesn’t mean I have an ulterior motive, as you and @Professortango1 suggest. Once again, you are welcome to have your thoughts and opinions about what’s been presented so far. I don’t respond to every opinion about the salt mine, thoughts on the concept art, etc. because I don’t see a point all the time. The ridiculousness and absurdity I’m referring to is the opposite of what you mentioned in the last section of your post: people already having a full opinion before the ride has even opened. There have been other example of absurdity, but for the last few posts, that’s what I’ve been referencing.

So no I never said DCA is the ugliest park. I said Disney seems to be trying their best to be making it into their ugliest park. Here is my exact quote. I never said I've visited every park.

Why is Disney obsessed with making this their ugliest themepark. First Guardians pipe warehouse art project, then Incredicoaster is red, and now this...

It looks really bad. Did they forget that they once had a different bright red Golden Gate Bridge in the same park and how ugly it looked?

And your initial response was claiming that I said it's the ugliest themepark in the world, even non-Disney, even though my original post, as seen above says Disney is making it THEIR ugliest themepark.

Now again you are skewing my own words, not that it's that big a deal but it can go a long way to read things thoroughly and avoid frustration.

For example I even said with Bayou that regardless of any discussion I have about themeparks online that when I visit them it all flies out the window and I am living in the moment. Yet you still associate me with having a bias. That's not even how I operate.

If I truly was set out to despise something I wouldn't even waste a second of my time on it when in a themepark. But I definitely will go on Bayou Adventure and hope it's awesome, even if their marketing has been in my opinion not focused and confusing.

You are correct though this is your thread, I didn't even realize this til now, if you want to challenge all opinions you disagree with in it that is your choice. Or would you prefer this discourse for another thread that another member can make?

 

[Dear Prudence]

TO BE FAIR, I don't think most people, myself included, are being overly critical or even overly negative. I think people (aside from some diehards) are basing their feelings and apprehension on the fact that Disney has shown they don't care--be it newer efforts or maintaining older ones. No one did this to them. No one is being unfair or unreasonable. It's a realistic response to a company who consistently put out bland, mediocre, and outright bad, lazy efforts and just expected everyone to just fall all over themselves in wow. Disney has repeatedly demonstrated that they do not care about their parks or their patrons.

Edit: and I don't even think a lot of these comments come from a place of "entitlement," either--this is a lot of money to spend on things they don't maintain. That's a lot of money for most people to spend on things that they have put no effort into. Parks like Efteling and the Japanese Disney Parks operate at a much higher caliber output and a much lower cost to its patronage. Those parks are pristine. Those parks are affordable. Nothing is every dirty, worn down, or broken.

 

[Californian Elitist]

So no I never said DCA is the ugliest park. I said Disney seems to be trying their best to be making it into their ugliest park. Here is my exact quote. I never said I've visited every park.


And your initial response was claiming that I said it's the ugliest themepark in the world, even non-Disney, even though my original post, as seen above says Disney is making it THEIR ugliest themepark.

Now again you are skewing my own words, not that it's that big a deal but it can go a long way to read things thoroughly and avoid frustration.

For example I even said with Bayou that regardless of any discussion I have about themeparks online that when I visit them it all flies out the window and I am living in the moment. Yet you still associate me with having a bias. That's not even how I operate.

If I truly was set out to despise something I wouldn't even waste a second of my time on it when in a themepark. But I definitely will go on Bayou Adventure and hope it's awesome, even if their marketing has been in my opinion not focused and confusing.

You are correct though this is your thread, I didn't even realize this til now, if you want to challenge all opinions you disagree with in it that is your choice. Or would you prefer this discourse for another thread that another member can make?

You literally said that. That sparked others to respond by posting photos of the Studios park in Paris.

There is no need for another thread. I don’t even respond to every negative reaction in this thread. For the most part, I read and move on. The ones I respond to are mostly the extreme ones because I choose to do that. I didn’t even respond to SuddenStorm’s comment about choosing to never go on the ride, a choice that is extreme, but one that I happen to respect. You guys share your opinions, crack your jokes, and I don’t respond. Not a lot.

 

[Consumer]

Honestly I don’t think I’ve been that negative about this attraction. I feel I’ve actually been pretty indifferent. It’s just not something that excites me, but I’m also not heartbroken about Splash’s closing. Could be a good ride and maybe then it’ll win me over, but I don’t expect to plan a special trip just to experience it like I did with Rise of the Resistance.

 

[Dear Prudence]

I think--just to finish out the thought here, that this is going to be like Galaxy's Edge in a lot of ways. People were ready to say that it was a "failure" before it even came out--due in part to the fact that Star Wars fans are toxic and impossible to please (and literally do not understand the themes of the franchise they claim to so desperately love). There were diehards who were obsessed with it before it even came out. And then, when it was all said and done, it was just okay. Both the attractions are wholly underwhelming and only marginally work; Star Tours is still superior to Smuggler's Run (and the screens actually work in Star Tours, for God's sake), and when ROTR actually decides to run that day, it's a dogpile of pre-show and a lazy underutilization of the trackless ride system. The theming of the land is immaculate, and it's got the immersive factor down, but it's also just underwhelming--a giant Star Wars shopping mall. Choosing a world that no one in the Star Wars fandom had ever been to before was certainly, um, a choice, but it was neat for what it was. It's a cool place to just walk around and hang out, with some pretty fun stuff to eat, and it does have some really nice elements. Ultimately, though, it's just...okay. Like I like it, but it wants way more credit than it deserves, and I feel like this is exactly what's happening here, especially down to the oversaturation of the IP.

 

[EagleScout610]

Haha. To be fair, WDI has thrown a lot at us. Mardi Gras party, Tiana's co-op, 17 new critter characters, legit art and music from Black New Orleans artists, a quest for a missing ingredient, beignet smells, Tiana's father's WWI service, a line of hot sauces. It's hard to pin down what exactly the attraction will be.

D) All of the above

And pay attention, there's a quiz

 

[CaptinEO]

You literally said that. That sparked others to respond by posting photos of the Studios park in Paris.

There is no need for another thread. I don’t even respond to every negative reaction in this thread. For the most part, I read and move on. The ones I respond to are mostly the extreme ones because I choose to do that. I didn’t even respond to SuddenStorm’s comment about choosing to never go on the ride, a choice that is extreme, but one that I happen to respect. You guys share your opinions, crack your jokes, and I don’t respond. Not a lot.

I mean I even dug up my original post that showed exactly what I said. Do you want to read it again?

You misread my own words and other people followed suit despite it not being what I said.

In that same thread I even pointed this out. Other posters realized their mistake but you keep claiming I said something I didn't.

And youre saying I can't be objective about this ride even though I say otherwise. The common theme I'm getting is that my own voice and words don't matter. I don't get what your goal is besides to just confuse someone.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

Don’t forget Adventureland Treehouse just in case you forget which land it’s in.

#wdicreativity

The whole division is super-imaginative ... it's half their name.

 

[denyuntilcaught]

And can we all agree that the name is terrible? I was hoping TBA was a cute way of saying the name would be announced later. But nope. Mardis Gras Mountain shall never be.

It's terrible because of what it could have been, but both TBA and Splash Mountain sound like AI-generated names that do little to inspire. I think the only reason why the latter name may be loved is because of emotional connection and nostalgia.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I mean I even dug up my original post that showed exactly what I said. Do you want to read it again?

You misread my own words and other people followed suit despite it not being what I said.

In that same thread I even pointed this out. Other posters realized their mistake but you keep claiming I said something I didn't.

And youre saying I can't be objective about this ride even though I say otherwise. The common theme I'm getting is that my own voice and words don't matter. I don't get what your goal is besides to just confuse someone.

I never said you can’t be objective.

I went back and looked, too. Maybe I’m going blind.

 

[BrerFoxesBayouAdventure]

The Brer Rabbit version of the flume ride had its own share of flaws, after all (and was still a great ride in spite of that).

The DL one's flaws are a bit more glaring in my opinion. The hard to follow story combined with the breakneck pace of the flume itself makes it hard to understand what's exactly going on.

Also it creeps me out. Don't know why, it just does.