Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

truecoat

truecoat

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TP2000 said:
Are we sure that hanging corpse is a suicide victim? I guess I never really thought about it too much, but I always assumed that guy was killed by someone else by being hanged up there in the rafters.

If it is suicide, why did he kill himself? Is there some plot element of that ride where the mansion owner or resident wants to commit suicide by hanging himself? Like the place was scary he just couldn't take living there anymore?

I'm trying to remember the script that the Ghost Host says in that stretching room without pulling up some fawning fan website, but does it reference or allude to the fact the hanging body is a suicide victim and not just a murder victim?
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If it was the Russian Haunted Mansion, I'd say he died by running for office or writing articles.
 
DavidDL

DavidDL

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TP2000 said:
Are we sure that hanging corpse is a suicide victim? I guess I never really thought about it too much, but I always assumed that guy was killed by someone else by being hanged up there in the rafters.

If it is suicide, why did he kill himself? Is there some plot element of that ride where the mansion owner or resident wants to commit suicide by hanging himself? Like the place was scary he just couldn't take living there anymore?

I'm trying to remember the script that the Ghost Host says in that stretching room without pulling up some fawning fan website, but does it reference or allude to the fact the hanging body is a suicide victim and not just a murder victim?
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In addition to what PiratesMansion said, I believe there was also a piece of audio recorded for the Mansion that had intended to play shortly after the reveal along the lines of, "He took the cowards way out!". Not sure if it ever played but it can be heard on one of the Mansion CD's purchasable in the park.

This, in addition to the suicide hanging that takes place in the 2003 film. I don't know the answer for why he would want to kill himself in the attraction but in the film it was after the death of his beloved. Maybe someone with more knowledge of the Mansion's backstory could answer for the attraction itself. Any number of things could lead someone down this path, perhaps the Mansion wasn't haunted until after the hanging itself. This is the case in the film, where the hanging actually curses the house and prevents any souls associated with it from passing on to a higher plane. This is apparently an unused concept from the original Haunted House attraction designed for the park before it became the Mansion we know today.

So you've got the Ghost Host claiming you're trapped in a room with no way out except for "his way", followed by an immediate reveal of the hanging skeleton, the audio track claiming he took the cowards way out and the scene in the film (which, the debate of it's quality aside, definitely took inspiration from the attraction and I'm sure research was done). The Ghost Host definitely committed suicide.

Side note.. until recently, I had always believed the sound effect that plays in the immediate darkness following the reveal was the corpse above us falling and then shattering when it hits the ground. I am only just now discovering that supposedly, it is meant to be the sound of a "Guest" who was so frightened by what they just saw, they ran screaming into the darkness and broke the wall open, thus leading us further into our tour of the Mansion. This makes sense to me, especially since our Host apologizes for scaring us after the door has been opened.
 
Brer Oswald

Brer Oswald

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PiratesMansion said:
The Ghost Host says: "This chamber has no windows and no doors (laughter). Which offers you this chilling challenge...to find a way out! (laughter) Of course, there's always MY way...(reveal)."

I feel it's definitely implied. Unlike, say, Phantom Manor, which has two figures above the room, there's no real sense that someone else may have done it.
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It’s definitely implied. I have zero ability to infer or extrapolate.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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Brer Oswald said:
It’s definitely implied. I have zero ability to infer or extrapolate.
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It’s definitely implied yet I think TP said it best where it’s just kind of vague and between people reciting the lines and people just exited to be there it just kind of goes over peoples heads and isn’t really hitting on a conscious level.

Disney knew exactly what they were doing and just how far they could take things or what they could get away with. But the likes of Baxter or Marc Davis/ Claude Coats Could have never predicted the wokeness of 2020.
 
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George Lucas on a Bench

George Lucas on a Bench

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DavidDL said:
Side note.. until recently, I had always believed the sound effect that plays in the immediate darkness following the reveal was the corpse above us falling and then shattering when it hits the ground. I am only just now discovering that supposedly, it is meant to be the sound of a "Guest" who was so frightened by what they just saw, they ran screaming into the darkness and broke the wall open, thus leading us further into our tour of the Mansion. This makes sense to me, especially since our Host apologizes for scaring us after the door has been opened.
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There's absolutely no way that's what was intended. Where do you guys come up with this fake news?

Hey, guys. Did you know that when the car goes into the graveyard, you've actually "died"? *Wink/Nudge*
 
Brer Oswald

Brer Oswald

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mickEblu said:
It’s definitely implied yet I think TP said it best where it’s just kind of vague and between people reciting the lines and people just exited to be there it just kind of goes over peoples heads and isn’t really hitting on a conscious level.

Disney knew exactly what they were doing and just how far they could take things or what they could get away with. But the likes of Baxter or Marc Davis/ Claude Coats Could have never predicted the wokeness of 2020.
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It’s more explicit than anything in Splash.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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80s The Neverending Story: The Nothing
90s The Neverending Story 2: The Emptiness
20s The Neverending Story 3: The Wokeness?
 
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DavidDL

DavidDL

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George Lucas on a Bench said:
There's absolutely no way that's what was intended. Where do you guys come up with this fake news?

Hey, guys. Did you know that when the car goes into the graveyard, you've actually "died"? *Wink/Nudge*
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I actually don't remember where I had read it. After reading it, it just sort of seemed to make sense and I took it at face value, since what I had thought it to be before made less sense than that when I really gave it some thought. Since it's just a theme park ride and there seems to be all kinds of different interpretations, myths and mysteries about it, I see no harm or foul in seeing info like that and sort of just choosing to understand it. It's not like it's the same as following, say, medical advice from random people online.

But if you happen to know the real story about what's supposedly being implied during the scream in the darkness, I'd be happy to hear it. Though it seems like everyone seems to know everything about each attraction differently.. the legends get created and live on. In any case, they're lots of fun.
 
lazyboy97o

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DavidDL said:
I actually don't remember where I had read it. After reading it, it just sort of seemed to make sense and I took it at face value, since what I had thought it to be before made less sense than that when I really gave it some thought. Since it's just a theme park ride and there seems to be all kinds of different interpretations, myths and mysteries about it, I see no harm or foul in seeing info like that and sort of just choosing to understand it. It's not like it's the same as following, say, medical advice from random people online.

But if you happen to know the real story about what's supposedly being implied during the scream in the darkness, I'd be happy to hear it. Though it seems like everyone seems to know everything about each attraction differently.. the legends get created and live on. In any case, they're lots of fun.
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That’s because The Haunted Mansion ultimately dropped the idea of an explicit backstory, but Disney’s growing obsession with it in the 80s and 90s convinced people that they existed everywhere. The result was people making up elaborate backstories for the attraction that implies so much but says so little. Once they started being repeated by Cast Members people took them to be true.
 
DavidDL

DavidDL

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lazyboy97o said:
That’s because The Haunted Mansion ultimately dropped the idea of an explicit backstory, but Disney’s growing obsession with it in the 80s and 90s convinced people that they existed everywhere. The result was people making up elaborate backstories for the attraction that implies so much but says so little. Once they started being repeated by Cast Members people took them to be true.
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I can definitely confirm the Cast Member part. I worked at the resort for half a decade in the New Orleans/Critter Country attractions department and definitely heard my share of stories. It can be hard to separate the fact from the fiction when so much gets tossed at you.

For example (unrelated to Mansion), during a break I was told the 3 lift hills on Big Thunder are meant to each represent a different phase of the mountain's story. The first one, with the beautiful stalagmite caverns is meant to represent the mountain before man. Untouched, purely nature. The second, with the dynamite and goat, signifying mans arrival to the mountain and mans attempt to claim nature for his own. The final scene (remember, this was before the new finale but I guess could still be seen as such) was the earthquake. Essentially the mountain/nature itself reminding us that it cannot truly be controlled and is beyond us. So the mountain buries the miners inside with the quake as a sort of.. act of defiance, reminding us how powerless we really are against something like that.

How true is that? Meh, maybe an elaborate story thought up at the inbetween diner behind the corn dog cart by some creative and bored CMs. But, it's still fun to think about. I guess what's really important is what an attraction means to you, how you perceive it and what makes it special to you in the end.
 

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