Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

mickEblu

mickEblu

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At this point it doesn’t matter who owns Disney. This isn’t Walt Disney’s company anymore. Disney and all of the imagineers that made Disneyland great are long gone. Maybe Apple buying Disney would be a good thing for the parks. More liquid cash and some fresh blood. They may even actually bring people like Baxter in to bring DL back closer its roots as opposed to Pretending to use him on a Splash Mountain retheme.

My hope is that Apple would be the American OLC.
 
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SplashGhost

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I believe what TP2000 reported saying this was done so Chapek could sell instagramable food. The same thing could happen with a Tiana ride in another location, but Chapek loves his overlays. The timing of the announcement was done as a PR move to cash in on what was going on, but it isn't the reason for the change.

No one is offended over Splash Mountain outside the woke Twitter mob and those are the last people you want to listen to when making a decision. Once you give into them once, they will sense weakness and try to get you to give in on other things. The woke Twitter mob will never be happy no matter what you do since they will always find something to be offended about. They managed to turn one of the most positive and happy songs ever written ("Zip-a-dee-doo-dah") into something negative. Regardless of what they did, that will always be my favorite Disney song and the song that I associate most with what Disneyland used to be.
 
SoCalMort

SoCalMort

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Mac Tonight said:
"If you can dream it, you can do it." - Cherlyn Silverstein. The actual line's origin has nothing to do with Disney at all.
An ad agency copywriter pitched the line for G.E. to use as part of a corporate recruiting advertisement, around 1981.
Jack Welch (CEO of G.E.) was in the meeting and bought from their agency based on that line from one of the mock ads...
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This could be a Two authors/Two books/Same idea situation as with the authors/books behind the 70's melodrama The Towering Inferno (see Production > The Books)

From the site referenced below:

Many Disney fans know the quote “If You Can Dream It, Then You Can Do It” this quote has become a great Urban Legend within itself. Many of us believe this was written by Walt, but in fact it WASN’T! D23.com’s Ask Dave by Chief Archivist Emeritus Dave Smith resolved this myth so perfectly I couldn’t even try to do a better job in disproving this myth. Dave write’s when asked “I heard that Walt Disney did not, in fact, ever say the famous quote, “If you can dream it, you can do it.” Is that true? If so, who did say it?”

“He never said this quote. If you check my book, Disney Trivia from the Vault, you can find the true story: “Despite its frequent publication, that is not a Walt Disney quote. We checked with Imagineer Tom Fitzgerald for the definitive answer: ‘I am very familiar with that line because I wrote it! It was written specifically for the Horizons attraction at Epcot and used in numerous ways, from dialogue in the ride to graphics. I find it amusing that the Science of Imagineering DVD series attributes it to Walt Disney, but I guess I should be flattered.”

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Mac Tonight

Mac Tonight

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SoCalMort said:
This could be a Two authors/Two books/Same idea situation as with the authors/books behind the 70's melodrama The Towering Inferno (see Production > The Books)

From the site referenced below:

Many Disney fans know the quote “If You Can Dream It, Then You Can Do It” this quote has become a great Urban Legend within itself. Many of us believe this was written by Walt, but in fact it WASN’T! D23.com’s Ask Dave by Chief Archivist Emeritus Dave Smith resolved this myth so perfectly I couldn’t even try to do a better job in disproving this myth. Dave write’s when asked “I heard that Walt Disney did not, in fact, ever say the famous quote, “If you can dream it, you can do it.” Is that true? If so, who did say it?”

“He never said this quote. If you check my book, Disney Trivia from the Vault, you can find the true story: “Despite its frequent publication, that is not a Walt Disney quote. We checked with Imagineer Tom Fitzgerald for the definitive answer: ‘I am very familiar with that line because I wrote it! It was written specifically for the Horizons attraction at Epcot and used in numerous ways, from dialogue in the ride to graphics. I find it amusing that the Science of Imagineering DVD series attributes it to Walt Disney, but I guess I should be flattered.”

www.themainstreetmouse.com

TMSM Mythbusters: Walter Elias Disney Quote Myths

Disney News Network including Walt Disney World, Food, Tips, Disney +, Animation, Disneyland, Rides, Attractions, Shows, Movies, Food, Scentsy and more
www.themainstreetmouse.com www.themainstreetmouse.com
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Tom Fitzgerald can get credit for actually writing the line in show dialogue, etc, but I'm more inclined to believe the Cherlyn Silverstein account that she created the line specifically for G.E. (Horizon's Sponsor) advertising, and Tom somehow retrofit it into the attraction.

You're free to believe what you want. At the end of the day, it's doesn't matter that much.

"I always knew Galaxies Edge would be a flop, but no one believed me." - Walt Disney
 
smooch

smooch

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Brer Oswald said:
If they’re going through with it, it needs to be done right. It needs to be better in every way imaginable. They have a lot to live up to.
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See and I don't believe Disney is really capable of that anymore. The biggest thing that has made me lose hope is (I know I'm beating a dead horse) Guardians. ToT was a staple of DCA and practically saved the park from abysmal attendance numbers and started an upswing in attendance. It had a lot of history and value to DCA and it was unceremoniously stripped down and filled with prop borders and flat screen TVs with an uninteresting "Help us, theme park guests! Put your hands in the air so we can get security clearance, all you visitors obviously have security elevator clearance! Woohoo! You did it! You sat in your seat and screamed and that helped us break out of here!" plot. It was also meant to be technically the first ride for the Marvel expansion into DCA and thus they should have made a really high quality ride to start things strong, yet they still botched the ride and made it have less charm, less atmosphere, and look so dang ugly. It's a genuine eyesore, when I'm walking from a hotel to the park and see the building towering in the sky it looks so gross and in the park in person it's terrible, my friend who has been working at Disney for a few years now literally calls it "Microchip Mountain" because the weird copper tubing and ornaments on the front look like components on a PCB board. But yeah, I have very little faith in Disney to do this properly, obviously I really hope they do it right, I just don't think they will.
 
PiratesMansion

PiratesMansion

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el_super said:
So you think Chapek really wants to spend millions of dollars to promote a new food menu, when he could just roll it out at one of the other three New Orleans themed restaurants at Disneyland, essentially for free? Sure.
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Agreed. They could easily add PATF snacks without going to the expense of redoing one of their most popular rides.
 
socalifornian

socalifornian

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mickEblu said:
At this point it doesn’t matter who owns Disney. This isn’t Walt Disney’s company anymore. Disney and all of the imagineers that made Disneyland great are long gone. Maybe Apple buying Disney would be a good thing for the parks. More liquid cash and some fresh blood. They may even actually bring people like Baxter in to bring DL back closer its roots as opposed to Pretending to use him on a Splash Mountain retheme.

My hope is that Apple would be the American OLC.
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Their first new parade song
 
Brer Oswald

Brer Oswald

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el_super said:
So you think Chapek really wants to spend millions of dollars to promote a new food menu, when he could just roll it out at one of the other three New Orleans themed restaurants at Disneyland, essentially for free? Sure.
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Why does everyone think this is a Chapek move and not Iger? Iger loves synergy. Iger loves his legacy. Iger loves the films that came out under his leadership, even if he didn’t at first. Iger hates SotS because everyone keeps asking for it at investor meetings (most likely because Splash is a thing).
 
BuzzedPotatoHead89

BuzzedPotatoHead89

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el_super said:
So you think Chapek really wants to spend millions of dollars to promote a new food menu, when he could just roll it out at one of the other three New Orleans themed restaurants at Disneyland, essentially for free? Sure.
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Yes and no. Pooh is a waning franchise in terms of popularity and they probably need some form of a dedicated Tiana and Louis M&G and character shop to drive both merchandise and photopass for the current “Pooh Corner” section of the park. Perhaps even a second/store window for hugely successful beignets?

In terms of F&B and merch in NOS “proper“, I’d think WDI would be able to market this as a way push “synergies” and up sales a bit more at the already successful New Orleans Square shops and restaraunts too with a dedicated ride tie-in. Probably some more voodoo stuff also tied to Dr. Facilier (who I assume will still roam the “square” side/area).
 
BuzzedPotatoHead89

BuzzedPotatoHead89

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Brer Oswald said:
Why does everyone think this is a Chapek move and not Iger? Iger loves synergy. Iger loves his legacy. Iger loves the films that came out under his leadership, even if he didn’t at first. Iger hates SotS because everyone keeps asking for it at investor meetings (most likely because Splash is a thing).
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True. Iger also likes replacing everything his immediate predecessor did - both good and bad - which is why he has had no problem (sometimes understandably) dumping on and totally “transforming” most of Eisner’s “legacy era” park additions.

Compared to other domestic parks, just look at how nearly unrecognizable both DCA and Disney’s Hollywood Studios are since 2005, as an example.
 

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