Not saying this will be quite that bad, but there have been projects where Imagineers have said they liked it better as a parking lot, so maybe it will just be that bad.
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Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion
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Not saying this will be quite that bad, but there have been projects where Imagineers have said they liked it better as a parking lot, so maybe it will just be that bad.
SuddenStorm
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This whole Splash debacle is an interesting one.
I anticipate a much more extreme last day for Disneyland's Splash, if we know when that day is ahead of time.
I also anticipate some very upset fans should Disney close it without warning- I mean Disney has done quite a bit to disrespect their fans the last few years. But closing an iconic and beloved attraction without warning would be a new extreme.
SuddenStorm
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Ah yes, DCA.
That would be ... problematic.
Well the DL capacity is not as good as FL's Splash, so there will be that too.
Or use a Virtual Cue!
A tepid piece in which the participants really didn't want to get into it so they danced around it.
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BrerFoxesBayouAdventure
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Tell that to all the idiots proclaiming Splash and Tiana are the same ride because "they share the same system" when the agreed consensus is that that doesn't even count.
Rich T
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Thank you! Now I really can ignore it without wondering if anything actually happened.
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Rich T
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It won’t be the same ride, but the signature element—the big drop— will remain. And it’ll also finally once again be a ride where everything’s working. For a while, at least.
See, those are the known, definite plusses and something to be glad about. No matter what else happens. I’m still going to optimistic. With reservations.
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SuddenStorm
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It won’t be the same ride, but the signature element—the big drop— will remain. And it’ll also finally once again be a ride where everything’s working. For a while, at least.
See, those are the known, definite plusses and something to be glad about. No matter what else happens. I’m still going to optimistic. With reservations.
Eh, many many log flumes exist across the country with similar drops. Yet Splash is the clear favorite. Reducing it to 'the drop' is a major disservice.
I'm often amazed at how quickly Disneyland fans disregard theming as a major part of why people like the place- regardless if they consciously realize it or not. I don't mean you specifically- but in general. 'Oh, it's the same ride just a new theme what's the big deal' is a common sentiment across the internet to justify Disney's reskins they've grown quite fond of recently (Pixar Pier, Guardians, Splash)
Splash does a ton right- stuff that a normal park guest wouldn't even realize- that all works together to create a much more satisfying experience that goes beyond 'the drop'.
So yes, it will be the same flume. But let's see if the new set design and audio can help this new ride last 30+ years and become a beloved classic.
BrerFoxesBayouAdventure
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I genuinely hate that the motivation for the movement was not to keep a beloved ride and its wonderful selection of characters intact, but a vessel to spew hatred and vile at anyone wanting diversity in the parks. A friend and I initially thought the movement was innocent and we used the tags in posts on our socials, but we couldn't be any wronger.
I love the Br'er characters and the stories they came from, wish the others involved in that movement shared the same genuine love and appreciation for them.
Rich T
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I’m saying that Splash’s drop—The most photographed and famous part of the ride, the money shot Disney uses to promote it, the bit most people associate with the ride—
Will still be there. Will still be the big visual element even though the entire storyline and surrounding scenery will be different.
No matter what happens, no matter how the retheme turns out—the ride will still be super popular with most guests. And yes, I’m really, really hoping it’s NOT just relying on the drop’s built-in crowd magnet appeal and that the entire new experience is imaginative and uplifting.
SuddenStorm
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I'm glad that I'm ignorant of this SaveSplashMountain community after reading about it on this thread just now in recent posts. It helps I'm rarely on Facebook, and don't have a Twitter or Instagram.
It sounds like a lousy group of people.
SuddenStorm
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I think the point I was trying to make is that up until '96ish, decisions made at Disneyland were by and large designed to improve the place as a whole. Splash Mountain was designed in such a way to work seamlessly with that half of the park, and has for 30 years. And it's strength as an attraction is matched only by Mansion and Pirates. And maybe Indy.
Now this isn't the case- no one can argue that Pixar Pier was actually an improvement. And whether Guardians is an improvement over ToT is a tossup, I know each have fans. Those additions had other motives.
So while Tiana's Splash will be popular- and for all I know it could be better than Splash (I wouldn't bet on it though), there's a real risk that any initial popularity will fade over time and that Disneyland's thematic integrity will be weakened over the long term.
I wonder if Disneyland will suffer a death of 1,000 cuts- if they're making too many changes that don't resonate with guests, or are just inherently lower quality, and unless there's a course correct it will not have the brand recognition and public love it's enjoyed until now.
I'm curious to keep an eye on the next 10 years.
Ghost93
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It actually wasn't that bad.
Consumer
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I've always like Critter Country. Its rustic, southern Americana aesthetic has always resonated with me, as well as its characters from Marc Davis' portfolio. However, with neither Splash Mountain nor Country Bear Jamboree around anymore, I don't see any reason for Critter Country to exist as linking the two attractions was the very reason for its creation. It would be better, in my opinion, for them to do away with the Critter Country theme entirely, that way Tiana's Bayou Adventure isn't bound by the land and instead can tell a story free of thematic constraints. Whether that means merging Critter Country into New Orleans Square, or just simply retheming Critter Country into a bayou entirely, would be liberating for the Imagineers working on the project.
Of course, an overhaul of Critter Country could be the loss of the Hungry Bear Restaurant sign, and that would be a travesty, so maybe it's for the best this hodge-podge land sticks around a little longer.
Of course, an overhaul of Critter Country could be the loss of the Hungry Bear Restaurant sign, and that would be a travesty, so maybe it's for the best this hodge-podge land sticks around a little longer.
LittleBuford
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I don’t think Disney itself has ever referred to the theme as problematic. They’ve been very careful in their framing to avoid such characterisations (unless there’s something I missed).
I agree. I said it a few days ago, but I strongly believe DL fans are going to give WDW fans a run for their money once ours closes, whenever that’ll be. I expect singing, chanting, clapping, and more. That area will be clogged.
I think Disney is smart enough to not close this unexpectedly out here, potentially meeting the wrath of DL fans (not that they truly care). An extreme, indeed.