Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[celluloid]

This is blatantly false.

Not to the level of Splash Mountain. 20 years plus in pop culture is forever and still majorly as popular has never happened.

Not Toad at WDW and ToT at DL, although fan favorites.
Even 20K was not popular anymore at WDW.

It is a different level.

What examples would you consider that happening?

Splash Mountain along with Space are arguably the most famous theme park icons of all time.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Not to the level of Splash Mountain. 20 years plus in pop culture and still majorly as popular has never happened.

Not Toad, not ToT DL.

It is a different level.

What examples would you consider that happening?

Have you been visiting Disneyland since 1955? And if so, were you old enough to remember everything that was there?

 

[mharrington]

We can all speculate. Try not to take what others are saying on a random FB page seriously.

The ride is opening here.

Here's the thing: not only does this guy absolutely insist that it's only happening in WDW, but when presented with evidence to the contrary, he displays an "angry" emoji. Plus, he also put up a gif from the "Cat In The Hat" movie, in which the cat says, "You're not just wrong, you're stupid."

 

[celluloid]

Have you been visiting Disneyland since 1955? And if so, were you old enough to remember everything that was there?

My parents yes. Also, why is that a litmus test to challenge a memory? Why are you attacking this without a follow up to your statement? Anyone who knows a good amount about Disney parks knows this to be obvious. Things that were replaced were either not popular or they did not work for cost effectiveness. Please give specific examples of entire attractions replaced if it is blatantly false that is has never been done before. What was as popular for as long as splash is to this day, and was closed to be replaced?

Everyone that has grown up into adulthood has had Splash their for their lifetimes on both coasts. It is rare in general for Disney parks to get rid of something that is over 20-30 years old. It is even less common if ever that something as popular as been replaced. I will read any examples you can give though.

 

[Californian Elitist]

My parents yes. Things that were replaced were either not popular or they did not work for cost effectiveness. Please give specific examples of entire attractions replaced if it is blatantly false that is has never been done before. What was as popular as splash is to this day, and was closed to be replaced?

So, you weren’t there. In that case, how can you say this is the first time Disney has closed a popular attraction and replaced it with something else? In its soon to be 68th year, they’ve never, ever done this? In terms of the level, again, how can you 100% know if you weren’t there? I’m not going to pretend I can name an attraction that was both as popular as Splash and was closed in Disneyland’s 68-year history, because, again, I wasn’t there. We can make some guesses. I wasn’t there, but my mom always fondly talks about CoP, how much she and other fans loved it, and how upset she was when it closed.

DCA’s ToT is definitely up there.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Here's the thing: not only does this guy absolutely insist that it's only happening in WDW, but when presented with evidence to the contrary, he displays an "angry" emoji. Plus, he also put up a gif from the "Cat In The Hat" movie, in which the cat says, "You're not just wrong, you're stupid."

That’s how you know this person can’t be trusted. Because wut?

 

[mharrington]

That’s how you know this person can’t be trusted. Because wut?

The fact is, this person apparently does not like to be disagreed with.

 

[celluloid]

So, you weren’t there. In that case, how can you say this is the first time Disney has closed a popular attraction and replaced it with something else? In its soon to be 68th year, they’ve never, ever done this? In terms of the level, again, how can you 100% know if you weren’t there? I’m not going to pretend I can name an attraction that was both as popular as Splash and was closed in Disneyland’s 68-year history, because, again, I wasn’t there. We can make some guesses. I wasn’t there, but my mom always fondly talks about CoP, how much she and other fans loved it, and how upset she was when it closed.

DCA’s ToT is definitely up there.

We have things called books and interviews with people who were there as well as those who designed and operated the places.

If it is blatantly false, you would have evidence ready right? I said to the standard and popularity that Splash has. It did not even last 15 years. Again, nothing is compared to lasting as long as Splash in the zeitgeist of American major theme parks still popular till the day of closing. This is factually evident. as Much as I love WDW's Toad. It was not pulling in the guest satisfaction and did not make it as long as Splash.

DL's ToT was a fun ride, but not WDW's and not even close to Splash's level of icon and popularity. Again. It has hour plus waits daily.


You should rethink your working because you can't call it blatantly false. It is not like Disneyland is not the most documented theme park of all time and is less than 100 year old. They have never replaced something an attraction Splash Mountain lasting as long and as popular as it is. It is fact.

 

[Californian Elitist]

We have things called books and interviews with people who were there.

If it is blatantly false, you would have evidence ready right? I said to the standard and popularity that Splash has.

DL's ToT was a fun ride, but not WDW's and not even close to Splash's level of icon and popularity. Again. It has hour plus waits daily.


You should rethink your working because you can't call it blatantly false. It is not like Disneyland is not the most documented theme park of all time and is less than 100 year old. They have never replaced something an attraction Splash Mountain lasting as long and as popular as it is. It is fact.

Yes, we have books and history. And yet you’re still making this outrageous claim.

You should rethink your wording. To say that they’ve never closed a popular ride before and replaced it is not a fact. That’s why I initially replied to. Now you’re bringing “levels” into it.

I stand by ToT.

 

[Californian Elitist]

The fact is, this person apparently does not like to be disagreed with.

I can see that. That person is going to have to get used to disappointment, sadly. Just like the rest of us.

 

[celluloid]

Yes, we have books and history. And yet you’re still making this outrageous claim.

You should rethink your wording. To say that they’ve never closed a popular ride before and replaced it is not a fact. That’s why I initially replied to. Now you’re bringing “levels” into it.

I stand by ToT.

Oh you should re-read what I wrote. I specified to the level that Splash is and that people still had a popular and joyous fondness for to this day and up until the day it closes. People can miss any attraction as tastes very, but popularity of Splash has never been matched for a closed attraction, as I pointed out in the other posts.

There is nothing blatantly false about that.

However you interpreted it or I miscommunicated it, does not change the fact.

The fact is that nothing has ever closed to to the popularity of Splash before to be replaced in Disney Park's history. So the denial while unfounded in most cases, is understandable in reflection on why it is wished by others more than when other attractions have been announced to change because it is a different level.

You can stand by ToT DL all you want, but it was not as popular or iconic as Splash Mountain's legacy in the general population.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Oh you should re-read what I wrote. I specified to the level that Splash is and that people still had a popular and joyous fondness for to this day and up until the day it closes. People can miss any attraction as tastes very, but popularity of Splash has never been matched for a closed attraction, as I pointed out in the other posts.

There is nothing blatantly false about that.

However you interpreted it or I miscommunicated it, does not change the fact.

The fact is that nothing has ever closed to to the popularity of Splash before to be replaced in Disney Park's history. So the denial while unfounded in most cases, is understandable in reflection on why it is wished by others more than when other attractions have been announced to change because it is a different level.

This is what you initially said:

It is something that Disney has never done, they close something the majority have a fondness and joy for, to be replaced by something they hope is just as good, and very few having faith or a care that it will be superior.

You never specified any levels. You said Disney has never closed a ride that a bunch of people love and replaced it by something they believe to be superior. It’s a broad statement, and one that is false.

We can argue the levels thing. I will say that the context surrounding the reason for the closure of Splash Mountain is new and something we’ve never seen before, especially considering the discussions about it on social media and the like. I’ll give you that.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Attractions that happen "after/outside the movie"...

• Flight of Passage
• Navi River Journey
• Festival of the Lion King
• Rise of the Resistance
• Smugglers Run
• Midway Mania
• Slinky Dog Dash
• Alien Swirling
• Gran Fiesta
• Frozen Ever After
• Cosmic Rewind
• M&M Runaway Railway
• Tower of Terror
• Monsters Inc
• Monster Inc Laugh Factory
• Luigi's Roadsters
• Mater's Jamboree
• Incredicoaster
• Radiator Racers

 

[celluloid]

We can argue the levels thing. I will say that the context surrounding the reason for the closure of Splash Mountain is new and something we’ve never seen before, especially considering the discussions about it on social media and the like. I’ll give you that.

So you consider Splash Mountain to not be the most popular ride up until its closing that Disney has never replaced?


The context is not as relevant as some would like to think. Unless you think the majority of people on this board that don't have faith in the new attraction or want to see Splash Mountain close forever have some form of racism? I don't think you think that, but that is how clear it is that this is a first for the company's parks history.

Splash reached an MK classic level. Meaning is has been in the castle parks for more than three decades. It has become an associated staple. Regardless of the reasons Disney has, they have never closed something as popular as this before. Your definition of popular may vary, but the fact remains. Nothing like Splash.

 

[Californian Elitist]

So you consider Splash Mountain to not be the most popular ride up until its closing that Disney has never replaced?


The context is not as relevant as some would like to think. Unless you think the majority of people on this board that don't have faith in the new attraction or want to see Splash Mountain close forever have some form of racism? I don't think you think that, but that is how clear it is that this is a first for the company's parks history.

Splash reached an MK classic level. Meaning is has been in the castle parks for more than three decades. It has become an associated staple. Regardless of the reasons Disney has, they have never closed something as popular as this before. Your definition of popular may vary, but the fact remains. Nothing like Splash.

Never said that. Again, I initially responded to your false statement about Disney having never closed a popular ride.

Not sure what you’re talking about regarding the racism thing. The context is absolutely relevant.

 

[celluloid]

Attractions that happen "after/outside the movie"...

• Flight of Passage
• Navi River Journey
• Festival of the Lion King
• Rise of the Resistance
• Smugglers Run
• Midway Mania
• Slinky Dog Dash
• Alien Swirling
• Gran Fiesta
• Frozen Ever After
• Cosmic Rewind
• M&M Runaway Railway
• Tower of Terror
• Monsters Inc
• Monster Inc Laugh Factory
• Mater's Jamboree
• Incredicoaster
• Radiator Racers

Indeed there are a lot. I don't think anyone is arguing they should not expand nor they can't be good. The Food Co-Op of a working woman character trait is not giving a lot to speculate or hope for with a good ride experience through a lot flume.

Since you provided a list:
Let's ditch the flat rides from your list. Even though you can say Luigi loves tires, and the Aliens still reenact their worship and respect of The Claw. Even the original Disney Flat Rides were based on the Mad T Party moments of being the size of small Alice in a Mad T Party, and flying with Dumbo The Flying Elephant. Their source materials and motifs are what make them associated and elevates them to their themes.

Guardians of the Galaxy are still, saving the galaxy in their irreverent manor, the villain's in their films are not exactly their strength although I thought Ronan had potential. Also, Elson was one of the biggest critiques of the ride opening, so it validates the same argument further for bringing back baddies when you can.

Slinky is still a toy as he was played with in the movie.

Gran Fiesta is still a travelogue

Midway Mania is a game of play, with toys with their dynamic from the films based on.


The list goes on and we can review each one but they all have replications of what happens in their respective properties.

As stated in various ways, even when you have an attraction based beyond the original story, you still replicate the excitement.

ET Adventure, Revenge of The Mummy, Men in Black Alien Attack, Harry Potter Attractions, Peter Pan's Flight, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, Pooh's Hunny Hunt, Honey I Shrunk The Audience, Rattatouie, Splash Mountain and many more.


It is not that Princess and The Frog Can't, but based on what we know so far about the bayou adventure, there is nothing to give people an excitement of that, and some evidence of the contrary.

 

[celluloid]

Not sure what you’re talking about regarding the racism thing. The context is absolutely relevant.

I took that as your reasons and words for splash mountain closing are socially something we have never seen before. It is not mutually exclusive to people wishing the most popular ride Disney has ever closed was not. That does not mean racism is tied directly to why there is more disappointment that it is closing than other attractions in the past. It is that Disney has never closed an attraction as popular or long lasting as it before.

 

[_caleb]

I don't think it is fair to say that it is racism. Realistically, even we know there is hatred in this world, it is not the majority.

Unless you think the majority of people on this board that don't have faith in the new attraction or want to see Splash Mountain close forever have some form of racism?

We've been asked not to talk about the social issues aspect of the ride/re-theme. Otherwise, I'd address these.

 

[celluloid]

We've been asked not to talk about the social issues aspect of the ride/re-theme. Otherwise, I'd address these.

Ah I see. I am not sure why it was attempted at being "a social issue" has to be relevant in another's post when my post other than that line to get rid of that thought and focus on the ride people enjoy had nothing to do with it. That makes sense that this is requested, as it often brings cynicism.


I still stick to the fact that Disney parks have never closed an attraction as popular and long lasting as splash before.

 

[_caleb]

Ah I see. I am not sure why it was attempted at being "a social issue" has to be relevant in another's post when my post other than that line to get rid of that thought and focus on the ride people enjoy had nothing to do with it. That makes sense that this is requested, as it often brings cynicism.


I still stick to the fact that Disney parks have never closed an attraction as popular and long lasting as splash before.

But your point is that because Splash Mountain is older (30 years) and more loved (however that's measured) than any other ride that Disney has closed, people are more upset (however that's measured)?

I'd push back by saying that because the ride is not actually closing or fundamentally changing (still a log flume w/animatronics and the drop), maybe it's less of a big deal than you're trying to make it.