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Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion
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mickEblu
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I just don’t see them closing it before the holidays but I wouldn’t be shocked. It’s not like Disneyland is lacking ride capacity.
mickEblu
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I’m not following the logic. Mansion only goes down for a few weeks in August.
I'm assuming they mean that since Mansion won't be going down for its Holiday overlay, and Pooh planning a refurb it means they could be making sure everything in Critter Country/New Orleans Square is either open or presentable to cover the gap left by Splash
Disney Irish
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I wouldn't bet on that just yet. HMH bring in lot of money for DLR. Just because it hasn't been announced just yet doesn't mean it's not happening.
truecoat
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I'm anything but random.
Mac Tonight
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"Random User guess", but I would be surprised if the ride closes down before summer of '22.
mickEblu
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I prefer your guess to mine
Brer Panther
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How exactly can they begin the retheme this winter when the company is currently having financial troubles (y'know, since they're in the middle of a PANDEMIC), have laid off a good chunk of Imagineers, and are already in the process of building Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway (and the TRON and Guardians of the Galaxy rides at Disney World)?
DrAlice
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Some random SM questions for the random posters:
I'm used to getting soaked on Splash Mountain. Last week we barely got splashed. I'm not complaining, as I prefer my socks stay dry, but I was surprised by this. Is this a seasonal thing? Is it because we had less weight in the log with less people? Did I just get lucky?
Just curious what others experienced recently.
I'm used to getting soaked on Splash Mountain. Last week we barely got splashed. I'm not complaining, as I prefer my socks stay dry, but I was surprised by this. Is this a seasonal thing? Is it because we had less weight in the log with less people? Did I just get lucky?
Just curious what others experienced recently.
the_rich
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The last time I went which was in 2019 I didn't really get wet. I was seated in the back and we had a good amount of weight in the log.
Because once the parks and cruises are operating at capacity, they profit the company one and a quarter billion dollars...
... a fiscal quarter.
And by the end of this coming 4th quarter (July - Sept), they'll be close to being back to a fully armed and operational death corp.
George Lucas on a Bench
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Imagineering still has plenty of classics to ruin and crappy new additions to concoct. They'll soon be back and in greater numbers.
CaptinEO
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It's the lack of weight. I went on it 4 times and never got wet due to just it being me and my wife.
Model3 McQueen
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- In the Parks
- No
Yup, the 5 minutes (ehem, I mean no minute wait) around nighttime is one great secret. No lines and no splashes because you get a boat to yourself = less weight.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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DavidDL
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Before I start let me just say that as I type all this out, I feel like I'm not fully qualified to speak on these matters but I'm going to give it an honest shot anyways.
This is a tricky and complex subject. I'd say bullying someone just because they like Splash is a no-no. Heck, bullying in general, should be. I don't think anyone should fault or hate on Splash fans for falling in love with what Disney built. It's a great attraction that unfortunately, was inspired by a troubling piece of work that Disney has never bothered to otherwise acknowledge (other than to confirm it is in fact, bad) or start an honest conversation with anyone about.
There's probably only a very few people out there who actively enjoy what Splash is because of it's troubling connections. Disney did everything they could to try and wipe the troubling bits of SotS from people's minds (except for Zip-a-dee-doo-dah and an attraction, apparently) and as a result, we all just sort of grew up with Splash being "okay". Heck, I'd wager a lot of these folks picking on people who like Splash didn't question themselves riding it up until the announcement last year.
Unfortunately, wiping something under a rug doesn't get rid of it in the long term. Eventually, it's going to be revealed as a mess that needs to be permanently addressed. That's what I think is finally happening with Splash. Disney wiped the more taboo bits of SotS under the rug to build Splash (for some reason) and invited us in to enjoy it. Since it was a mess that not many people could really see unless they looked hard enough, there really was no reason for anyone invited inside not to enjoy themselves. Is that their fault? I don't think so. Honestly, it's more Disney's.
Having a reality bubble popped is no fun. Being told that something you've enjoyed for so long without any honest ill-intent suddenly has a problem can be confusing and Earth shattering. It can cause you quite a bit of discomfort. I've been there, too. Sadly, because the problem was not properly addressed when starting out, it was sort of allowed to "fester" and become a ticking time bomb that was bound to one day go off. Could Disney have done more earlier on to prevent this and keep Splash around longer? Probably. But we hadn't entered an age where everyone, everywhere has an answer to any question they want to ask in their pocket. In 1989, Disney was probably right to assume that most young Guests wouldn't have the information to fully grasp where Splash originated from and would instead, just enjoy it as a Critter Country log-ride. But that dynamic has changed and as more Guests fall in love with the parks and want to learn everything about them from the super computers in their pockets, it became only a matter of time.
So what's a Splash fan to do? Suddenly people are trying to tell you that it's not a great attraction and that the happy memories which it fills you with are somehow "wrong". To start, those feelings aren't "wrong" and they're not your "fault" and you shouldn't be bullied for having them. Folks calling for Splash to be changed should have the decency to at least accept that the millions of Guests it pushes through the turnstile are not actively trying to endorse or be, racist.
That said, we can't ask one side to examine things for Splash fans more critically and not expect the Splash fans to do it, as well. Just because there's nothing "wrong" with enjoying Splash doesn't mean one shouldn't try and ignore the realities that are coming to light or refuse to admit that the inspirations it draws from don't have their issues. They need to be addressed, eventually, before things get even worse down the road. I think it's likely too late for Disney to try and inspire the honest discussion they should have years ago regarding the source material, so they're left with little choice if they don't want an even bigger explosion later on. If we've learned anything from Splash, it's that we can't pretend problems aren't there or believe that they'll go away on their own if we don't talk about them.
Sadly, discussions such as these often turn tribal. There are certainly a select group of folks fighting to save Splash for the wrong reasons and probably a much larger group of them simply doing so because they just love the attraction that Disney built but didn't have enough foresight to see long term nuances with. Then there are a select group of folks pushing for Splash to be changed without regard for how the attraction has grown to be appreciated as a work of art in theme park realm and automatically disregarding anyone whose suddenly confused about all of this as automatically racist. -and again, as with the first group, you've probably got an even bigger group of folks who are fine with the change as long as they do a good job or otherwise just don't care at all.
Both sides need to be examining the other more closely and realize that neither is going to win anyone over with petty insults. Folks who want Splash changed can make their case without automatically assuming anyone who enjoys it is a terrible person. -and those who want to save it could probably have a more honest conversation about how the attraction could be perceived by others these days or if they're doing so simply to preserve their own comfort. But you won't find that kind of nuanced thinking on Twitter, where there's a character limit and folks are actively trying to showcase the worst side of themselves.
If there's any common ground I think both sides can come to an agreement on, it's that we all want this to be done right, if they're going to do it at all. I think worrying about Disney botching Splash's overlay (since the relatively young attraction is considered by many to be a classic) is a valid concern (Pixar Pier, Avengers Campus) and a lot of folks looking to "Save Splash" may simply be trying to do so out of this worry, alone.
In the end, the final result (as with the decision to build an attraction based on a film they made taboo), will be on Disney.
BuzzedPotatoHead89
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Twitter by design is created to elevate platforms that are the most extreme, polarizing, and outlandish. Sensationalism sells, only “retweets” and “likes” are the currency.
You’re arguing with bots and fake personas. It’s not worth it. Nor is it worth taking personal offense over.