The one who said Tony was only there for the name value said it for their own name value.
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Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion
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mickEblu
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Who is that guy anyway and why is he credible ?
CaptinEO
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They don't.
Modern WDI has nothing in common with 1989 WDI. They haven't made anything charming in an incredibly long time.
They will get their marching orders from company leadership, which is now a product/toy salesman, and get a huge bucket of money to do so, and you'll still end up with a ride devoid of any emotional connection, charm, or thought.
mickEblu
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lol I just realized you re Captain Eo. Subconsciously I was thinking I like this new guy.
George Lucas on a Bench
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Great user name
Mac Tonight
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The problem with their money buckets is that they have holes in them...
CaptinEO
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Thank you!
CaptinEO
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Hahaha! Sorry for the confusion!
I'm still holding some faith that they'll do Splash (At least in California) justice with the redo. There's a 0% chance they do Orlando justice
CaptinEO
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I wish I had faith in them but their recent track record has more misses than hits IMO.
TP2000
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With a few rare exceptions (I'm actually struggling to think of one, but I'm deep in vacation mode this week so my brain is fuzzy and I'm sure someone smarter than me can come up with an example), not since Walt have creative attraction ideas been mandated from the top. Sometimes senior park executives like a Richard Nunis would request a specific type of ride; a coaster, a water ride, a dark ride, etc. as part of a park's development process. But that was about as involved as they get in the creative process.
The halls of WDI's Glendale campus are full of ideas; some long abandoned and forgotten, some strung along on life support by sheer will, and some just beginning to percolate into something great. Or maybe something dumb. You never know 'til you try.
That's the entire business model of WDI. They are all constantly looking for an idea to hit big and get picked up by at least one park. That's what keeps them all working week to week and making Tesla payments, waiting for a creative concept to get greenlit and funded by a park property that then guarantees them work for a couple years.
Agreed. It's your #2 that is the most interesting to me. Apparently the log ride isn't as problematic and racist as they claim, or else they would have the backbone to do away with the ride capacity for a few years until it can be remade into Tiana's Bayou Bash N' Splash, Presented by Ziploc.
Granted, the Tiana remake was very early in its design process when it was grabbed off the shelf so Burbank could pacify the Twitter Mobs. But especially at Disneyland where there's over a dozen other E Tickets operating in that park, with an extra half dozen E Tickets operating right next door, the decision to keep this "problematic" ride operating seems... well, problematic.
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TP2000
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Why do you think that?
I think the Orlando version works better because the speed of the logs through the scenes and the pacing of the scenes themselves is more methodical. It allows you to follow along with a basic plotline. I say this constantly, but I had absolutely no idea that Splash Mountain had a plot for the first few years until I rode the WDW version for the first time about 1994. I only knew the new log ride at Disneyland was "spunky and loveable rabbit gets thrown in briar patch by mean wolf" as the plotline of the ride, because before the Internet there was no way to learn and research stuff like now.
Unless there is major reconstruction of the mountain, and a complete rework of the ride system, the Disneyland logs will still zip and careen through the show scenes very fast. But in Orlando, the logs will plod along slower and have the ability to set scenes up more coherently and fluidly (pardon the pun).
Now, will Orlando's version devolve into a moldy and poorly maintained shell of its reopening day glory within a few years? Yeah, probably. But at least on opening day, the slower logs and more manageable ride system should/could make the Orlando version the superior one.
Until Tiana opens in Tokyo Disneyland, that is.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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welcome back!!!!!!!!
TP2000
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Where did I go?
I'm here. Just busy, and travelling this May and June. I'm currently in beautiful Coeur d'Alene, Idaho with a gaggle of like minded folks, eating too much, drinking before sunset, and playing bad tennis slowly. It's absolutely wonderful to be maskless everywhere here, to see people's faces and emotions, to believe in the science of vaccines, to have personal liberty.
Meanwhile, at Disneyland...
I believe it would be better in California seeing as the sets there are already pretty bare except for the main show scenes. Be so much simpler to swap the current sets out with the PatF ones.Why do you think that?
I think the Orlando version works better because the speed of the logs through the scenes and the pacing of the scenes themselves is more methodical. It allows you to follow along with a basic plotline. I say this constantly, but I had absolutely no idea that Splash Mountain had a plot for the first few years until I rode the WDW version for the first time about 1994. I only knew the new log ride at Disneyland was "spunky and loveable rabbit gets thrown in briar patch by mean wolf" as the plotline of the ride, because before the Internet there was no way to learn and research stuff like now.
Unless there is major reconstruction of the mountain, and a complete rework of the ride system, the Disneyland logs will still zip and careen through the show scenes very fast. But in Orlando, the logs will plod along slower and have the ability to set scenes up more coherently and fluidly (pardon the pun).
Now, will Orlando's version devolve into a moldy and poorly maintained shell of its reopening day glory within a few years? Yeah, probably. But at least on opening day, the slower logs and more manageable ride system should/could make the Orlando version the superior one.
Until Tiana opens in Tokyo Disneyland, that is.
I feel in Orlando it'd turn into them gutting the ride entirely, enclosing us in a screen tunnel. DL they can add to the existing sets instead of completely decimating them.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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Well you haven't posted in a while so i thought the "shut it downers" got you.Where did I go?
I'm here. Just busy, and travelling this May and June. I'm currently in beautiful Coeur d'Alene, Idaho with a gaggle of like minded folks, eating too much, drinking before sunset, and playing bad tennis slowly. It's absolutely wonderful to be maskless everywhere here, to see people's faces and emotions, to believe in the science of vaccines, to have personal liberty.
Meanwhile, at Disneyland...
TP2000
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Hmm... I think both versions will have the current sets stripped out entirely and replaced.
The art design between the two movies is different. They're not going to be able to reuse much of any of the sets on either coast.
About the only thing I imagine we'll see return in a recognizable form is the rollicking showboat in the finale' scene, but with different color scheme and aesthetics.
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TP2000
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Ha! Nope. I imagine the shut it downers here are heading into a deep funk about now, over the thought of California being one of the last states to go maskless two weeks from now.
On the plane I read a fascinating article about how some Shut It Downers are psychologically wedded to their masks now, and they like all the controlling rules. They are literally sad that it's ending, and they don't want to give up the mask and the feeling of being controlled by a caring state.
But me? I'm just as chirpy and chatty and happy as I generally am, moreso actually. Looking forward to a fun and active summer season with everything back to normal!!
Chile, anyways...
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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good for you. glad to see you are out living normal life again.Ha! Nope. I imagine the shut it downers here are heading into a deep funk about now, over the thought of California being one of the last states to go maskless two weeks from now.
On the plane I read a fascinating article about how some Shut It Downers are psychologically wedded to their masks now, and they like all the controlling rules. They are literally sad that it's ending, and they don't want to give up the mask and the feeling of being controlled by a caring state.
But me? I'm just as chirpy and chatty and happy as I generally am, moreso actually. Looking forward to a fun and active summer season with everything back to normal!!