Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

EagleScout610

This time of year I become rather Grinchy
Premium Member
Seems a lot of posters have always been confident that Splash Mt would be closed, huh? Lie!

Me personally, I always knew that Tower of Terror would eventually become an Alien Space Tower. It's been on borrowed time since 2004. Everyone, look at me. I knew! I knew...
Splash has been common knowledge that the theme has been kinda taboo
 

planodisney

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There is a big difference between the creators of Alice in Wonderland and the creators of the Brer stories. I will let you figure that one our on your own.



There's a lot of reasons that people don't like Song of the South. That they are exploiting black culture is admittedly one of the newer ones, but not any less valid.
So black culture is the one thing in this world that can’t be exploited for financial gain?
Got it!
 

ElvisMickey

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Same can be argued for Song Of the South. The animation is beautiful, the music is really good, and the live action/animated shots rival some modern live/animated shots
I remember finding a grainy bootleg VHS copy with Japanese subtitles in the 90s at some store in Georgia. It was like finding the Holy Grail! Now you can get a pretty damn good DVD copy on Amazon for $20.
 

Rich T

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Ok we’ll just have to disagree on this. I can’t understand how it doesn’t matter when the proof is in the pudding. The ride was built, became a classic and was here for 30+ years and counting. “Borrowed time” implies a limited amount of time or that the thought of the ride being shut down for being problematic was actually a legitimate possibility way back in 1989 which just isn’t the case. The world changed a lot.
Marty McFossil here with an Eyewitness view from the past (‘cause I was there). Even back in the what’s-a-home-computer days when a fan’s only source of DL Info were Disneynews Magazine and Press releases... When word surfaced that Disney was planning a water ride based on “Song of the South” called “Zip-a-Dee River Run,” even us bigtime Disney fans were wondering why-oh-why Disney would build ANYTHING based on Song of the South, which was a controversial film even then. When I told the rest of my Disney-appreciative family the news, reactions were the same: A perplexed “Why? Why Song of the South?”

We knew, from the first announcement, this was a ticking cultural time bomb.
 

Donaldfan1934

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Her take on the matter, though valuable, would drown in a sea of the majority.
What majority do you speak of exactly? The majority here and elsewhere that has consistently agreed with her stance?






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Californian Elitist

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What majority do you speak of exactly? The majority here and elsewhere that has consistently agreed with her stance?






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The majority opinion that SotS is problematic.
 

BasiltheBatLord

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SotS can also be considered appropriation, given the film is based on Joel Chandler’s Uncle Remus stories, which are appropriated.
I think we’re back to the same thing as before. What would a Br’er Rabbit attraction look like if it wasn’t based on the Joel Chandler stories. How would it be any different?
 

el_super

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So SotS isn't the issue? It's the Uncle Remus stories period?

A lot of contradictory arguments going on here.

How is this contradictory? Song of the South (the movie) was based on stories appropriated by Joel Chandler Harris (Uncle Remus Stories). Basing a movie off a previously appropriated work, is still appropriation. The Brer stories themselves are not the issue, and I would think away forward for fixing the ride would be to have black writers and story tellers familiar with the tale, come in and re-envision the movie from the ground up: new characterizations, new settings and new music.

Somehow though, I don't think people really care about preserving the cultural legacy and importance of these stories... they just want to keep the movie elements they are familiar with. That's a huge problem and another reason the ride needs to go.
 

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