Three Teensy Confirmations about WDI

[wannab@dis]

Last time I was at WDW was January 2000. I have yet to experience DinoRama, Primeval Whirl, the Carpets, Space, PhilharMagic, Soarin', LMA, Stitch and Pooh's Playful Spot. I thought I was only commenting on the subject of WDI's latest achievements, on certain attractions' look and theme. I never said anything about the attractions themselves, about liking them or not, and never advised people to ride them or not. If some here like "judging attractions", I can honestly tell you I'm not one of them. :wave:

So, exactly what do you call this?

Space may be a wonderful attraction, but compared to others, either older like PotC or new like Everest, it doesn't really have a lot of themeing and story into it.

Yep, that's a judgement on an attraction you haven't even been into. You're solely basing your opinion on what you have read or seen, not experienced. Space is an unbelievable attraction that ranks at the top of anything at WDW as far as I'm concerned. You can't really compare it to PotC since it's not a dark ride. It's in a category of it's own. Unique, New, and Technologically Advanced. Hmm... I thought everyone was complaining that WDI wasn't building any of those attractions anymore.

I still say everest is just a big version of matterhorn!Philharmagic is just another honey I shrunk the audiance with a differant movie, can not comment on soarin, but heard it is a copy of something that is in DCA,but I agree with you that Disney is the best when it comes to themeparks, anywhere in the world

If Disney "is the best" then why do you complain about the new attractions so much? Everest isn't even completed, yet it's already relegated to "just a big version of.... " Philharmagic is not just another HISTA... it's a 4D attraction that is very different. Soarin is a copy of a hugely popular attraction and is getting rave reviews. Not everyone can get to both coasts. (Psst.. don't tell anyone, but MK was basically a cloned park in 1971!)

 

[MKCustodial]

The Magic Carpets (ok, a clone of an attraction in the same park (2 other times) is a little much...but I understand why they did this.

Ditto. My peeve with it is its location. The thing ruined the flow and feel of Adventureland. Not that Adventureland actually had anywhere else to place this, but you get what I mean.

Yep, that's a judgement on an attraction you haven't even been into. You're solely basing your opinion on what you have read or seen, not experienced. Space is an unbelievable attraction that ranks at the top of anything at WDW as far as I'm concerned. You can't really compare it to PotC since it's not a dark ride. It's in a category of it's own. Unique, New, and Technologically Advanced. Hmm... I thought everyone was complaining that WDI wasn't building any of those attractions anymore.

Granted. Still, as I said before, I don't think my comments will make anyone want to ride it any more or less, so I really don't see any harm in posting my opinion.
As for the comparison, I really wasn't comparing the actual attractions, just their look. From what I've seen of Space's queue, it doesn't seem to be anything grand or overly elaborate, certainly not like PotC or what Everest is coming to be.
In any event, you're absolutely right. I will try Space whenever I get to WDW, and maybe it'll prove me wrong, especially since I don't have strong expectations towards it. I love simulators, but I don't think this will be the type of attraction that'll have a strong appeal with me.

 

[AndyP]

No, I'm publicly giving my opinion on the topic at hand. I don't think anyone here will change their mind about this discussion or about any of the attractions mentioned herein based solely on my posts. So I wouldn't call what I'm doing "judging the attraction". Maybe the whole atmosphere will prove me wrong once I'm there, but Steve and the rest of the community have done a good job in introducing all these new attractions to those of us who haven't been able to visit them in person, so I'm pretty confident in what I'm seeing.

Last time I was at WDW was January 2000. I have yet to experience DinoRama, Primeval Whirl, the Carpets, Space, PhilharMagic, Soarin', LMA, Stitch and Pooh's Playful Spot. I thought I was only commenting on the subject of WDI's latest achievements, on certain attractions' look and theme. I never said anything about the attractions themselves, about liking them or not, and never advised people to ride them or not. If some here like "judging attractions", I can honestly tell you I'm not one of them. :wave:

To be honest, I thought Mission:SPACE was excellently done, and the only lack of theming I noticed is between the ride and the post-show area, which is just a white(?) corridor. But it wasn't really a problem. I thought the queue area ia excellent, and I thought the pre-show was also brilliant. I think you will be pleasantly surprised when you ride the attraction.

Regarding Dino-Rama. Well the rides themselves aren't that bad, my whole family always go on Primevil Whirl every trip because it is fun, it always cracks us up. I do think the positioning is questionable, and the theming is somewhat ironic, they themed it like a carnival, and if you look around the theming is 'fairly good' at making it look like a carnival, the irony being that Disney would not build a carnival attraction on its own, but this is 'themed' so its different! However, while you might not all like Dino-Rama, it is currently essential for AK, otherwise there would simply not be enough to do at the park for everyone and Disney would probably recieve a fair number of complaints for lack of attractions. It was a quick fix in a way, and if you don't like it, its not like you need to go to it!

 

[PeeplMoovr]

WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT????

Free Dole Whips would be nice. :slurp:

 

[peter11435]

No, I'm publicly giving my opinion on the topic at hand. I don't think anyone here will change their mind about this discussion or about any of the attractions mentioned herein based solely on my posts. So I wouldn't call what I'm doing "judging the attraction".

Why, you based your opinion of the ride solely on stuff from the internet, why don't you think someone else might also. You are clearly judging the attraction, and that is perfectly acceptable, however don't you think you should wait until you experience the attraction before forming your opinion.

 

[wannab@dis]

From what I've seen of Space's queue, it doesn't seem to be anything grand or overly elaborate, certainly not like PotC or what Everest is coming to be.

What about Jungle Cruise? Space Mtn? Peter Pan? IaSW? You can name about 90% of the "wonderfully imagineered classic attractions" and they do not have elaborate queues and most do not have much of a theme at all. So, any "themed" queue is above and beyond the classic attractions of yesterday.

 

[Rosso11]

This is true about Pirates. However, I have no idea when it will start. I was at one of these seminars almost 3 years ago when I was a CM. They told us the same exact thing about the classic rides. We were told that was one of their top priorities to update these rides. the list included Haunted Mansion, Pirates, Jungle Cruise, and its a Small World. As you can see three years later only one of the four have been done. Who knows how long it will take to update all four rides.

 

[PigletIsMyCat]

I don't think EE is a clone of the Matterhorne. Granted, I haven't been on EE yet, but from what I can see of it, the only real similarities are a snowy mountain and a yeti. EE is going to be a much more technologically advanced ride than Matterhorne Bobsleds. And even if it was a clone, so what? I haven't been to CA in fifteen years, it's too expensive to fly out there. And Matterhorne Boblseds is one of my faves at DL, and is still immensly popular. Why not bring something like it to WDW? It's good business to replicate a popular attraction at multiple parks.

 

[darthdarrel]

So, exactly what do you call this?


Space is an unbelievable attraction that ranks at the top of anything at WDW as far as I'm concerned. You can't really compare it to PotC since it's not a dark ride. It's in a category of it's own. Unique, New, and Technologically Advanced. Hmm... I thought everyone was complaining that WDI wasn't building any of those attractions anymore.

YEt not everyone can ride on this marvelous monstrosity they built.



If Disney "is the best" then why do you complain about the new attractions so much? Everest isn't even completed, yet it's already relegated to "just a big version of.... " Philharmagic is not just another HISTA... it's a 4D attraction that is very different. Soarin is a copy of a hugely popular attraction and is getting rave reviews. Not everyone can get to both coasts. (Psst.. don't tell anyone, but MK was basically a cloned park in 1971!)

Disney is the best, but that does not mean that some of us feel that they could do better.
and Philharmonic is just like hista and frankly I dont even care for it, There are 9 of us going in novemember and we have all agreed that is not on our list of "must see" Soarin, I said I hold judgement on it since I have not ridden on it, I will see in November! :wave:

 

[SpenceMan01]

Philharmonic is just like hista and frankly I dont even care for it

You're making some very ignorant comments. You saying that Philharmagic is just like HISTA is like saying Space Mountain is just like BTMRR or RnRC. Sure, they're the same ride system, but completely different experiences. I don't care if you like it or not, hell it's one less person in line in front of me, but don't go making dumb comments that have no merit.

 

[darthdarrel]

You're making some very ignorant comments. You saying that Philharmagic is just like HISTA is like saying Space Mountain is just like BTMRR or RnRC. Sure, they're the same ride system, but completely different experiences. I don't care if you like it or not, hell it's one less person in line in front of me, but don't go making dumb comments that have no merit.

Hey now this is a discussion board! these are just my opinions and I have just as much right to say whay I feel then you have to yours!
Don't attack me and say I am stupid or ignorant Why is it that when people have a differance of opinion then you do you instantly attack them?and what makes you so high and mighty that only what you think carries any merit?

 

[peter11435]

Hey now this is a discussion board! these are just my opinions and I have just as much right to say whay I feel then you have to yours!
Don't attack me and say I am stupid or ignorant Why is it that when people have a differance of opinion then you do you instantly attack them?and what makes you so high and mighty that only what you think carries any merit?

Well then it is my opinion that Astro Orbiter is just like Tower of Terror. After all they are both rides and both give you a view above the park.

Hopefully you see my point. You can have an opinion, but even ones opinion should in part be based on reality.

 

[darthdarrel]

Well then it is my opinion that Astro Orbiter is just like Tower of Terror. After all they are both rides and both give you a view above the park.

Hopefully you see my point. You can have an opinion, but even ones opinion should in part be based on reality.

My opinions are based in reality, so what you are saying is that you can only post here if you have the same opinion you do?MK custodial is also being attacked just cause he has a differant opinion, where does it state in any of the wdwmagic rules that your opinion has to be the same?

 

[PlaneJane]

FOOD FIGHT!!!!! :drevil:

 

[wdwmagic]

Hey guys, lets keep it civil, no name calling etc. thanks.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

*clears throat*

(Observe, if you will.)

Darrel, I disagree with your comment that Philharmagic is just like HISTA. Personally, I thought Philharmagic was one of the most engaging and creative shows on all of WDW property...all 6 times I saw it. I feel you are overgeneralizing by comparing the two shows. Although you certainly have a right to feel that way, I disagree 100 percent.

(See how that works, everybody?) :wave:

 

[gsimpson]

Cloning is not always bad

Part of the reason for all the hub and spoke cloans is that the lines at Dumbo and Astro were always very long. Since there is no real way to increase the guests per hour unless you make the ride shorter they instead spread it out. Little kids are particularly found of those rides for whatever reason.

During the previews of Missions Space they said the corridors were changed to blank white because of people getting off the ride who had upset or quezy stomachs would react badly to heavy themeing. Good call on their part, assuming it is true.

Philharmonic is much more like Bug's Life that HISTA.

It is better for them to have a mix of Ok, Good, and Great rides than to just have the few Great rides.

 

[peter11435]

My opinions are based in reality, so what you are saying is that you can only post here if you have the same opinion you do?MK custodial is also being attacked just cause he has a differant opinion, where does it state in any of the wdwmagic rules that your opinion has to be the same?

I never said your opinion had to be the same as mine. All I said was that just because you can say it doesn't make it an opinion.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

I never said your opinion had to be the same as mine. All I said was that just because you can say it doesn't make it an opinion.

Isn't the fact that someone says something precisely what makes it an opinion?

 

[peter11435]

Isn't the fact that someone says something precisely what makes it an opinion?

No. Saying "Splash Mountain is the best ride in WDW is an opinion." However saying the "Tiki Room is the most popular ride in WDW" is not an opinion in can be proven one way of another in this case wrong. If I say "the sky is green" that not an opinion.