Dollysmama
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I think it looks cute. :shrug:
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They ruined DL's Small World how much longer before they ruin ours?
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Again what they look like does not matter. They are not the children of the world.
EPCOT Explorer
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lnsemsf
Well-Known Member
So it doesn't matter if it looks good and people like it? It's not the Vatican, it's an old boat ride with moving dolls. This is getting blown out of proportion. People to this day love Carousel Of Progress and keep begging that it gets updated because 25% of it is out of date now. Even though it's "Walt's favorite attraction" it needs to be updated to get people to keep going to see it. It's a bit of a double standard, he either would have wanted change, or wanted everything to be a museum and never change. I for one welcome all positive subtle change to keep attractions fresh.
epcotWSC
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and here I was thinking that a lot of people disliked It's a Small World, but yet a lot of people are reacting like their favorite ride got ruined. I think it's cool and is a nice update to a ride that's pretty darn repetitive. I have no issue with Disney characters being added to attractions as long as they are done tastefully. From the few pictures I saw, it looks pretty good to me.
If it is going to have updates 'shouldnt the updates make sense? How do the Disney characters strengthen the message of unity among Nations?
ttalovebug
Active Member
Ouch. Someone doesn't like IASW. :lol:
I will never understand some people's disdain for this ride. It showcases beautiful design by a great artist and, yes, does have a great message. Maybe I'm just a sap, but I think the point is that, through the eyes of a child, we are all one and the same, no matter where we're from. In a world of so much division and war, I think that's a great thing to teach our children.
And as far as the song, I mean, get over it. I think "One Little Spark" was more dangerously catchy than IASW. *dodges fanboy flames* Not to say I don't like that song, though.
Anyway, about the DL changes. I think it was unnecessary, but if is executed with taste and respect for the original design, it's not as bad as it could have been. It's the principal that bothers me more. I don't understand why the feel they need characters in everything, especially in Anahiem.
epcotWSC
Well-Known Member
Until the end of the ride what does a bunch of dolls separated within their own ethnic groups singing the same song in a bunch of different languages have to do with unity among nations? It's not until the end where all different countries are united that we see unity among nations (where of course united nations speak English
).
ttalovebug
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Until the end of the ride what does a bunch of dolls separated within their own ethnic groups singing the same song in a bunch of different languages have to do with unity among nations? It's not until the end where all different countries are united that we see unity among nations (where of course united nations speak English
That's because the original ride is in America, where we speak English.
:lookaroun
Pongo
New Member
Someone mentioned Don Quixote a while back, and I was hit with inspiration.
I don't think that WDI was so enamored with themselves as put their characters in the attraction for the hell of it. They put the characters in there because they are stories OF THAT COUNTRY.
For instance, Don Quixote is a story of Spain. Hence his placement in the Spain section of the ride. How do we know he is Don Quixote? He's fighting some windmills.
Many of the stories of the Disney films are ethnic stories taking place in very distinct countries: Mulan, Alice in Wonderland, the Lion King, etc. And it isn't as if the artists at the time of the movie's creation didn't research into the culture of that country. Quite on the contrary. They researched them extensively.
it's a small world was made by an American for an American audience. The stories of Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, and Mulan have, in today's world, been redefined by the Disney classic. Cinderella is the Disney Cinderella. Alice is the Disney Alice. Mulan is the Disney Mulan. Putting the characters in each country is merely putting that country's respective folktale (Like Don Quixote, remember?) into that country. But as I said, the Disney version has BECOME the standard version.
Which actually makes things easy for them.
I haven't seen the ride in person, so I am holding off judgement. However, I'm positive about the whole situation because I think it was a logical step to refresh a stale ride (yeah, I said it).
I don't think that WDI was so enamored with themselves as put their characters in the attraction for the hell of it. They put the characters in there because they are stories OF THAT COUNTRY.
For instance, Don Quixote is a story of Spain. Hence his placement in the Spain section of the ride. How do we know he is Don Quixote? He's fighting some windmills.
Many of the stories of the Disney films are ethnic stories taking place in very distinct countries: Mulan, Alice in Wonderland, the Lion King, etc. And it isn't as if the artists at the time of the movie's creation didn't research into the culture of that country. Quite on the contrary. They researched them extensively.
it's a small world was made by an American for an American audience. The stories of Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, and Mulan have, in today's world, been redefined by the Disney classic. Cinderella is the Disney Cinderella. Alice is the Disney Alice. Mulan is the Disney Mulan. Putting the characters in each country is merely putting that country's respective folktale (Like Don Quixote, remember?) into that country. But as I said, the Disney version has BECOME the standard version.
Which actually makes things easy for them.
I haven't seen the ride in person, so I am holding off judgement. However, I'm positive about the whole situation because I think it was a logical step to refresh a stale ride (yeah, I said it).
A couple other notes about Pepsi and its a small world. Pepsi hated the way the final attraction turned out and thats why when it moved to Disneyland Bank of America was the sponsor.
A quote from Wade Sampson
"It turns out that the executives of the Pepsi Company hated the final attraction. In the 1980 book called “The Pavilion” which was published to publicize the Pepsi exhibit for EXPO ’70 in Japan, the company describes the “small world” show as an “embarrassment.” "
A quote from Wade Sampson
"It turns out that the executives of the Pepsi Company hated the final attraction. In the 1980 book called “The Pavilion” which was published to publicize the Pepsi exhibit for EXPO ’70 in Japan, the company describes the “small world” show as an “embarrassment.” "
ChimneySweep
Member
It has long been one of my favorite attractions. It's a classic that holds special memories and I enjoy it more as the years go by. I know it's not for everyone, but I love the beauty and innocence of its design accompanied by the Sherman's wonderful composition.
And count me in as one who thinks it should not have the new characters in it. It bastardizes this Disney classic.
I first rode it at 12 years old in 1978 and now at 42 years old, it still touches my heart.
Chris
And count me in as one who thinks it should not have the new characters in it. It bastardizes this Disney classic.
I first rode it at 12 years old in 1978 and now at 42 years old, it still touches my heart.
Chris
jt04
Well-Known Member
Meh!
I'm thinking of starting a thread called, "They fixed DL's Small World how much longer before they fix ours?
ChimneySweep
Member
Meh!
I'm thinking of starting a thread called, "They fixed DL's Small World how much longer before they fix ours?
I have a feeling that they never will "fix" ours. Of course that's fine by me.
:wave:
Brian Noble
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News flash: Disneyland has always been expected to promote the company's movies. It's no accident that the Lands are themed around the same concepts that the studio was exploring in movies at the time and going forward. It's no accident that the original ABC show pimped the Park and movies constantly.
Dating back even earlier, the Disneys understood the value of merchandising to their cartoon franchises---and understood it exceptionally well.
Synergy has always been a Disney hallmark. It's one of the things that set the company apart from the very beginning.
Having seen the pictures on MousePlanet, I think they did a pretty decent job, for the most part. A few things don't quite fit as well as I'd like, but overall, pretty neat. Full disclosure: I'm not a purist, and don't miss World Of Boredom, er, Motion.
Horizons1
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Disneyland's it's a small world has not been ruined, but at the same time it has not been fixed. The ride never needed to be fixed, it was never in danger of being removed for something else.
The changes aren't bad at all. They weren't really neccesary, and I don't see the point of it, but they're kinda nifty, except for the Three Cabelleros. The new characters are stylized to fit in the attraction and give it something unique that will seperate it from all the other iasw attractions around the world. Even HKDL's, which while having some similarities, is still different from DL's.
This could have been much worse, ya know. The entire ride could have become dedicated to Disney characters. These are placed off to the side to give guests new eye-candy. They're not meant to steal the show.
And, as sad as I am to say it, kids today want things they can recognize with, and these characters in iasw will give them that.
So calm down and quit griping. The ride hasn't been ruined, it's got a new twist is all.
The changes aren't bad at all. They weren't really neccesary, and I don't see the point of it, but they're kinda nifty, except for the Three Cabelleros. The new characters are stylized to fit in the attraction and give it something unique that will seperate it from all the other iasw attractions around the world. Even HKDL's, which while having some similarities, is still different from DL's.
This could have been much worse, ya know. The entire ride could have become dedicated to Disney characters. These are placed off to the side to give guests new eye-candy. They're not meant to steal the show.
And, as sad as I am to say it, kids today want things they can recognize with, and these characters in iasw will give them that.
So calm down and quit griping. The ride hasn't been ruined, it's got a new twist is all.
Enchantâmes
Active Member
I think ruined is a bit extreme. I think it looks fine, I mean Disneyland Fans seem ok with it after it's reopening. At least Micechat gave it a nice review. :shrug:
I thought it looked ok from what I saw in the pics. I guess people always need something to complain about...
I thought it looked ok from what I saw in the pics. I guess people always need something to complain about...
imagineer boy
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But here's the difference, COP is out of date and needs refreshing while IASW was perfectly fine the way it was and really didn't need any refreshing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Brian Noble said:
Sure, there were promotions for new movies and the such in the old days at DL. But they didn't go the extreme like they do now days like plastering the monorails, putting up tons of posters, and changing music for pointless "celebrations" and the like to the extent where you feel like you're walking through one big commercial.
tirian
Well-Known Member
Ouch. Someone doesn't like IASW. :lol:
I will never understand some people's disdain for this ride. It showcases beautiful design by a great artist and, yes, does have a great message. Maybe I'm just a sap, but I think the point is that, through the eyes of a child, we are all one and the same, no matter where we're from. In a world of so much division and war, I think that's a great thing to teach our children.
And as far as the song, I mean, get over it. I think "One Little Spark" was more dangerously catchy than IASW. *dodges fanboy flames* Not to say I don't like that song, though.
Anyway, about the DL changes. I think it was unnecessary, but if is executed with taste and respect for the original design, it's not as bad as it could have been. It's the principal that bothers me more. I don't understand why the feel they need characters in everything, especially in Anahiem.
I love IASW and have never had problems with its song. The only song I can never get out of my head is "Grim, Grinning Ghosts"; and I'm not complaining about that, either.
For once' Thank god WDW management is cheap.:sohappy: I will never say that again I promise.:lookaroun