peter11435
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I didn’t realize we were counting dragons as two.
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peter11435
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And primeval whirl, and dumbo, and mission:space..
How many is Star Tours? 1? 6? 54?
ChrisFL
Premium Member
Dueling Dragons were not mirror images of each other, they were different coasters. Space Mountain, with one very small exception is a mirrored coaster.
Like I said, a point could be made that there were 4 attractions, meaning they can be advertised as separate experiences because they are.
Like I said, a point could be made that there were 4 attractions, meaning they can be advertised as separate experiences because they are.
The_Jobu
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I'm confused by this discussion.
What is the argument here, that one ride saved Universal or that one land saved Universal?
smile
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lol dd the monkey wrench...
one attraction featuring two distinct rides.
to make it even more murky, there was a singular queue, but it split
i do agree that sm doesn't really compare as there is certainly a difference between mirrored, racing, and dueling coasters -
far easier to consider (and joke about) the former two being the same 'ride', but not quite appropriate for the later, imo
lentesta
Premium Member
From what I'm hearing, about half (~3%) of that 6% increase in Oct-Dec was from people rescheduling trips around the September hurricane. 3% by itself is still solid.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
There really is no arguement. Someone made a comment that guardians won’t save Epcot (which I 100% agree with) because one ride can’t save an entire park. I joked that it worked for Universal because the addition of Harry Potter (which had exactly one new ride) saved the entire resort. Obviously there is much more to Harry Potter at IOA than one attraction or attractions at all. But it was meant as a joke.
LucasCole
Member
Back to the topic sorta.. so on my final night on my trip so many rides broke down in mk I ended up with so many extra fast passes I couldn’t use them all. Space mtn, pirates, Splash mtn. And for a special treat I also got to be evacuated from splash mountain mid lift. At 745 the people mover wait was 25 minutes. Good thing the park closed at 8 or it might have gotten below 20 mins. Pirates was 75 mins at 730 with one side open. But profits are up and avatar is “amazing” so I guess we should be excited about the future of wdw.
On a positive note be our guest is top notch service. At least there’s one example of Disney quality we come to expect.
On a positive note be our guest is top notch service. At least there’s one example of Disney quality we come to expect.
smile
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avatar synergy bonus point awarded
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I don't put much time looking at crowd levels...but undercover tourist is usually pretty accurate and they are showing 3-5s during the weeks and 7-8 on the weekends...
That's not really much different.
There are no walk on days...ever...and they eliminated walk up tables long ago.
If those two changes can't be coped with...then i think it's over for you.
Dutch Inn '76
Well-Known Member
I rode all the busy rides - except Space Mountain - that thing is a whiplash machine and I'm done with it. Yes, being able to go in the MK two days helped.
Dutch Inn '76
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I think that your experience is an outlier. The rides are mechanical. Mechanical things break, deferred maintenance or not. It is unfortunate that you were unlucky.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
This is what dusters are saying is gonna happen with avatar and Star Wars...
But it's not if you bet with the house money.
mikejs78
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So would you say that Disney added a new ride this year by making Mission Space Green very different from Orange?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
disneyflush
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What will it take to cause crowds levels to start decreasing year over year? I think about the answers to this question a lot.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
As far as promotional material, yes
You don't want to know. Wait, yes you do.
Honestly, I think it would take $200+/day park admission, $2000 for an AP, and the cheapest resort room (All-Star level and similar) at $500/night to put a dent in attendance at this point.
Edit: I say "at this point", because guests now are basically frogs in a pot of water. Disney can turn the temp of the water up gradually (ie. relatively-small price increases year over year) and no one notices. You need something to shock them. Those kinds of prices would shock people.
A big recession would also lower attendance.
LucasCole
Member
You don't want to know. Wait, yes you do.
Honestly, I think it would take $200+/day park admission, $2000 for an AP, and the cheapest resort room (All-Star level and similar) at $500/night to put a dent in attendance at this point.
Edit: I say "at this point", because guests now are basically frogs in a pot of water. Disney can turn the temp of the water up gradually (ie. relatively-small price increases year over year) and no one notices. You need something to shock them. Those kinds of prices would shock people.
How much does the rampant expansion of DVC members have to do with this? I recently bought in and feel that no matter what the state of things I’ll be walking the parks 2 of every 3 years for the foreeeable future. What other businesses can lock customers in for 40+ yrs?