Politics Theme Park Reopening Guidelines to be released 10/20/20

[SuddenStorm]

Well, that 'blessing of size' has to do with having four large parks and not just two small ones. Anaheim and Orland both have nearly the same number of rides. But the 'three other' parks in WDW got nine rides each (give or take one) leaving MK to have significantly less rides than DL.

So, the blessing of size has to take into account all the parks.

But, what makes that difficult to do is that for both Anaheim and Orlando, everyone wants to go primarily to the castle park. DCA and 'the other three parks' at WDW don't have the attractive power that the castle parks do because they have fewer rides.

And so, in practice, the two castle parks get compared directly to each other without consideration of the other parks. And in that regard, DL beats MK for capacity.

And that's Disney's fault for not beefing up the non-castle parks.

I'm a bit confused by this post.

Magic Kingdom is significantly larger then Disneyland Park- how does the blessing of size not apply?

And how is comparing four theme parks (with four separate admission) to two parks at all fair? Or even the four parks to just Disneyland, in an excuse to justify Magic Kingdom's lack of attractions?

Especially when the conversation was referring specifically to the capacity level restrictions of Magic Kingdom park vs Disneyland

 

[MisterPenguin]

I'm a bit confused by this post.

Magic Kingdom is significantly larger then Disneyland Park- how does the blessing of size not apply?

And how is comparing four theme parks (with four separate admission) to two parks at all fair? Or even the four parks to just Disneyland, in an excuse to justify Magic Kingdom's lack of attractions?

Especially when the conversation was referring specifically to the capacity level restrictions of Magic Kingdom park vs Disneyland

Because MK isn't going to load up its park with as many rides as DL has since it has to distribute rides to all four parks. Therefore, MK will always have less capacity for people to ride the rides than DL, despite being larger in area.

Being larger in area isn't going to enable a park to put more families in it because they don't have a tendency to stay still on circles dropped into wide open areas. They get in lines, in shops, in shows, in restaurants. That's the capacity you have to look at to see how many can 'fit' into a park with distancing.

MK has less attractions to distribute people to, despite its geographic size.

 

[Stevek]

When thinking about when Disneyland may return to full capacity, Dr. Fauci addressed when he believed Sports Stadiums would return to unrestricted capacity. He feels that the NBA finals in July 2021 would be perhaps too optimistic, but the start of the next NFL season is possible in September 2021. Again that was not partial capacity but full stadiums.

With that timetable in mind, it's possible we have a quick ramp up of DLR reopening late spring early summer and be close to or at full capacity around Halloween time 2021.

Obviously a lot has to happen between now and then.

That timetable is possible...really depending on what the state allows by then.

 

[LastoneOn]

Maybe I'll catch it when I go to Disneyworld in a couple weeks. That'd be interesting.

All I'm concerned about right now is if Newsom can or may shut down the airports.

Suck it all up so nothings left in January ok?

No worries. We can plot you a route out of the state!

 

[LastoneOn]

I just checked. In the last 17 years I have 16,763 posts here on this message board. I will let all 16,763 of those posts speak for themselves, quite happily. Even the ones made at 1am after a third cocktail.

If you have other science and data that shows the USA's current testing and death rates are different from those I have posted from the CDC and United Nations, then please be my guest and share them.

TP, these guys don't even believe the Guardian or the SF Chronicle about HPE, why on earth would they believe the CDC or the UN??

 

[mickEblu]

Didn’t the max capacity for DL get bumped up to like 80k + after GE opened?

 

[LastoneOn]

This "quarantine" will only work if Newsom shuts down the airports across California entirely,

Executive and VIP terminals, biz jet FBOs, excluded of course.

 

[LastoneOn]

I would have normally gone into downtown Portland to shop at the fabulous Powell's

(I think about Powell's whenever I read the goings on. That place would go up so fast, terrifying)

 

[SoCalMort]

TP, these guys don't even believe the Guardian or the SF Chronicle about HPE, why on earth would they believe the CDC or the UN??

I believe.

I just checked. In the last 17 years I have 16,763 posts here on this message board. I will let all 16,763 of those posts speak for themselves, quite happily. Even the ones made at 1am after a third cocktail.

Okay...

It's not ten times deadlier than the flu. The flu virus, that's always morphing and changing, kills 250,000 to 500,000 people around the world every year. Year after year after year. If Coronavirus was ten times deadlier than the flu, that would be up to 5 Million people dead this year.

We can check back on this post six months from now, but I'd bet you two churros there won't be 5 million people dead. Or even 250,000 people dead from coronavirus.

And I'm smarter than a few folks, but dumber than many.

The US alone has already exceeded what you thought the world total would never reach. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and to voice it.

Now, why anyone should listen or take it seriously....well, your footer says to your opinions are not to treat or diagnose anything but boredom. Agreed. Nobody is being bored to death.

If you have other science and data that shows the USA's current testing and death rates are different from those I have posted from the CDC and United Nations, then please be my guest and share them.

We covered this before but basically we're in agreement. You take solace in the fact that out of the 162 nations tracked by Real Clear Politic's death rate, the US is 158th best. I say we're four slots further down. Yesterday the US had 2,833 deaths...nearly one 9/11 and it is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Gotta love the anti-maskers.

Truly.

 

[LastoneOn]

The Pacific Northwest is at the top of my list of places in the USA to NEVER visit. What a freakshow.

I'm waiting to see how long the Space Needle lasts. The way these groups operate, even water isn't safe from being a symbol of oppression.

 

[LastoneOn]

I will say however, that news out of SoCal is getting interesting in various cities and local governments

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It makes you wonder how much further into 2021 we'll get before Orange County and the City of Anaheim with behind-the-curtain help from Burbank publicly push back on reopening Disneyland.

When the Beverly Hills City Council pushes back, well.. they haven't had that kind of courage probably since McCarthy

 

[TP2000]

I'm waiting to see how long the Space Needle lasts. The way these groups operate, even water isn't safe from being a symbol of oppression.

I made it to Redding! (Again). This time southbound, and that means I'm no longer in the Pacific Northwest.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Space Needle torn down soon. It is a giant symbol of hatred and oppression after all, since it was built for the 1962 World's Fair and that entire event was used to further white supremacy. Or so the thinking goes in many Pacific Northwest minds now...

https://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/11/16/23155049/why-putting-the-french-flag-on-the-space-needle-is-racist

Here's Walt Disney with his wife and family (and I believe Senator Magnuson?) at the Seattle World's Fair, right at the base of the Space Needle, doing that white supremacy thing and furthering systemic racism that Walt was so good at.

Now that I'm closer to home and just reading the latest travel restrictions from Governor Newsom, I see I'm not supposed to travel out of my county or drive "for more than 2-3 hours", whatever that means. I already drove 7 hours today, and have another 8 hours to go tomorrow. Which means my Statement of Clarification that I will be making later will be trickier.

 

[LastoneOn]

Now that I'm closer to home and just reading the latest travel restrictions from Governor Newsom, I see I'm not supposed to travel out of my county or drive "for more than 2-3 hours",

Ah, but at what speed?? With or against the wind? Top up or top down? AC on Recirc or Fresh Air?
Chauffeur driven or self? (there's the out: "i failed to understand the restaurant was so far away and the driver didn't tell me")

Was reading someplace this morning about "Americans ignoring the threat of death" vis a vis Covid.
I guess they don't understand that the threat of death exists from the moment we are conceived let alone born.

And such a neat picture!

 

[TP2000]

And such a neat picture!

Yes, isn't it? There's something about that era from 1959 to 1965 where it was almost impossible to take a bad photo. Everyone was so slim and healthy, but the styles and tailoring of that era were also so sleek and stylish. It didn't matter if you had bought a polyester suit at JCPenney or a silk suit Sak's Fifth Avenue, you always looked good in it.

Then the latter 60's took over and things got sloppier and less tailored. Even today in 2020, when the suit styles and fashions are as slim and tailored as 1962 the look isn't quite the same, because everyone today has an extra 20 or 40 pounds of blubber on us and we just look slobbier.

I keep hoping this Covid thing might make people realize they need to lose 30 pounds because Obesity is the leading co-morbidity for Covid deaths according to the Science & Data. But instead of blaming fat, most folks just blame President Trump for a bunch of old people in nursing homes dying of Covid.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I've always been bad at math. Always. If it weren't for Google, I'd never even attempt to figure some of those percentages from the Science & Data that I've posted here.

But speaking of mocking, suddenly today there's a whole new rash of California politicians to mock when I issue my Official Statement of Clarification upon my return home from my Thanksgiving holiday.

In no particular order;

San Francisco Mayor London Breed has today admitted she also dined at a group indoor dinner party with 8 people at The French Laundry exactly one day after Governor Newsom did. She even sat in that same small private dining room with those fabulous Saarinen chairs.

It was important for Mayor Breed to break Covid safety rules by traveling to Napa for dinner at The French Laundry because the mayor needed to be there "to celebrate socialite Goretti Lo Lui's 60th birthday". Perfection!

S.F. Mayor London Breed had her own French Laundry party — the night after Gavin Newsom’s

Breed’s dinner at an opulent restaurant — amid a pandemic and an economic catastrophe...

www.sfchronicle.com

Los Angeles County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl was caught dining at an outdoor restaurant in Santa Monica literally a few hours after she voted to shut down all outdoor dining in LA County, during Tuesday’s L.A. County Board of Supervisors meeting, Kuehl referred to outside dining as “a most dangerous situation”. Ms. Kuehl's apology statement today is a HILARIOUS example of political flim-flam lies.

Style points to Supervisor Kuehl's spokesman for repeatedly using the phrase "al fresco" when explaining that Ms. Kuehl was dining outdoors. Because al fresco makes it seem healthier and cleaner. Right?

LA County Supervisor dines at restaurant hours after voting to ban outdoor dining

Protesters gathered outside the home of LA County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl on Tuesday after a FOX 11 report revealed hours after she voted to ban outdoor dining she dined outdoors herself.

www.foxla.com

Back up in the Bay Area, San Jose Mayor Sam Licardo has admitted today that he travelled to Sonoma County and had Thanksgiving dinner with a group of people from five (5) different households.

Mayor Licardo's apology statement today claims that no photos or information of the dinner will be released because it was "a private event".

After urging small Thanksgiving, San Jose mayor sorry for gathering that broke Covid rules

“I understand my obligation as a public official to provide exemplary compliance with the public health orders," Mayor Sam Liccardo said.

www.nbcnews.com

Did you see this one? Makes all the CA politicians look like saints...

Austin mayor regrets vacation to Mexico where he filmed video instructing residents that they 'need to stay home'

I don’t know how anyone can still support these hypocrites.

 

[TP2000]

Did you see this one? Makes all the CA politicians look like saints...

Austin mayor regrets vacation to Mexico where he filmed video instructing residents that they 'need to stay home'

I don’t know how anyone can still support these hypocrites.

I did see that one. It makes Mayor Breed of San Francisco look brilliant in comparison, even though she's not.

Honestly, all of these idiot mayors and governors and no-name politicians are complete chumps. They've ruined any tiny shred of respect they may have had six months ago.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Has anyone done any correlatin' on this uptick in cases to public officials being caught as jerk hypocrites while their constituents are downright suffering?

I've noticed amongst my peers that practically all are saying they don't care about the new orders and that officials can go **** themselves.

I'm wondering if sentiment is like that moreso across the board and the public simply doesn't give a crap due to the ruling class exhibiting such care free hypocrisy.

 

[LastoneOn]

Has anyone done any correlatin' on this uptick in cases to public officials being caught as jerk hypocrites while their constituents are downright suffering?

I've noticed amongst my peers that practically all are saying they don't care about the new orders and that officials can go **** themselves.

I'm wondering if sentiment is like that moreso across the board and the public simply doesn't give a crap due to the ruling class exhibiting such care free hypocrisy.

There is one common characteristic, political party affiliation. Could be just a coincidence.

 

[Tamandua]

Has anyone done any correlatin' on this uptick in cases to public officials being caught as jerk hypocrites while their constituents are downright suffering?

I've noticed amongst my peers that practically all are saying they don't care about the new orders and that officials can go **** themselves.

I'm wondering if sentiment is like that moreso across the board and the public simply doesn't give a crap due to the ruling class exhibiting such care free hypocrisy.

It makes sense. If the restrictions are based on health concerns but the public sees the people making the rules not following them, then why should they? Think about how worried people were in March to now. Officials still use rhetoric as if covid is a scary plague that will kill millions, but they're clearly not worried about it themselves. If they want people to be concerned about it, they need to lead by example, and they've failed to do that. They've proven that the virus isn't concerning enough for them to follow their own rules. People can find data and studies and rhetoric to argue either side of this issue, but the reality is that people on the whole just aren't scared of it anymore, and a big part of that is because they see the leaders and experts breaking their own rules, showing that it's not as serious as they say.

 

[el_super]

They've proven that the virus isn't concerning enough for them to follow their own rules.

Not at all. They've proven that they make mistakes, just the same as everyone else does.

It seems strange to suggest that this creates a lack of respect for the rules, when most of the people claiming this, had a documented disrespect for the rules prior to these incidents.

The unfortunate reality is, when the restrictions are working and daily virus infections decrease, people tend to think it's safe to resume normal life. That just ends up causing infections to spike, and of course as people see their friends and family become infected, they start taking precautions seriously again.

The less people pay attention to the virus, the more death and destruction it will cause, until respect is once again demanded.