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Phantom Mickey

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I'm leaning strongly towards IJ replacing the stunt show. Not sure there's a better fit especially with the fifth movie coming out in 2019 which is potentiality when they could have an attraction by if announced at D23 next year.

The Indy Stunt show seems stale, at best its old.
If the Indy theme is not going to be expanded perhaps it could be rethemed to StarWars, a show where they may show some of the back stage action, how they make the magic happen, guest interaction, maybe similar to the StarWars Academy, Props, A bit of a show, with the guests taking part like the old SONY show used to do. Guests enjoy being part of the fun and even more watching other guest trying to be part of the scene. The stage is huge and has an even bigger back lot so plenty of room for set changes, props. Could be even more exciting if they could incorporate some of the sound technology that was used in Alien Encounter, Imagine hearing a star fighter doing a fly by, the guests hear it approaching from the left side, getting louder and the WHOOSH as it passes and fades on the right side. think of the battle senarios that might create for the guests. Granted the sound technology won't be as pin point perfect as in AE but speakers placed in strategic locations should get the job done...

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Bill Cipher

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The Indy Stunt show seems stale, at best its old.
If the Indy theme is not going to be expanded perhaps it could be rethemed to StarWars, a show where they may show some of the back stage action, how they make the magic happen, guest interaction, maybe similar to the StarWars Academy, Props, A bit of a show, with the guests taking part like the old SONY show used to do. Guests enjoy being part of the fun and even more watching other guest trying to be part of the scene. The stage is huge and has an even bigger back lot so plenty of room for set changes, props. Could be even more exciting if they could incorporate some of the sound technology that was used in Alien Encounter, Imagine hearing a star fighter doing a fly by, the guests hear it approaching from the left side, getting louder and the WHOOSH as it passes and fades on the right side. think of the battle senarios that might create for the guests. Granted the sound technology won't be as pin point perfect as in AE but speakers placed in strategic locations should get the job done...

Just Thinking
The problem with that though, is that the theme of, "how movies are made," is going away from DHS. It's now starting to lean more towards a, "celebration and immersion of movie universes," so a show with backstage areas and props and such would be out of place.
 

Phantom Mickey

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The problem with that though, is that the theme of, "how movies are made," is going away from DHS. It's now starting to lean more towards a, "celebration and immersion of movie universes," so a show with backstage areas and props and such would be out of place.

Perhaps so but it could give a huge opportunity to immerse the guest in to the scene and the theme of the area of park. Besides, I had thought that the great open area can handle almost anything, think of the Lion King Show. And Audio animatronics is not to be left out, if a huge screen is included, I assume mounted on the ceiling and when aireal fight scene begins, the big screen (s) can slip down and this is where a fantastic sound system would come into play. I don't know if anyone remembers but even though during the Alien Encounter (not so much Stitch) display and story really held together well, it was the sound effects, Alien stomping from the left side to the right side, behind you, the warm moist breath on the back of your neck with that growl and the splatter of Alien spittal on the back of your neck..... really took the show to another level, well I thought so. In the scenario for a StarWars show, they could use a great sound system and ... maybe some effects like honey I shrunk the brats or its a bugs life in the seating areas.. Lighting effects... lololol
...I agree, the studios motiff is gone, stick a fork in it, its done. But there is so much that could be done and Disney might/could come up with some great ideas...
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I remember all the death calls for the old StarTours ride, why there where crying it was old and stale and needed to be replaced. Some fresh ideas and look what we have today.....

I'm just guessing anyway as Studios is "just there" so the innovation picture right now is blank, and sketches can become exciting, anything less would be silly

Besides, if you figure the AK is getting a SCI FI attraction to complement the zoo, I think anything can happen.
 
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TeriofTerror

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So, not Marvel (apparently). That would make it seem more likely to be an outside IP based on Martin's hints -- but (and perhaps I'm parsing words too closely) how would an outside IP be "plenty of synergy"? Disney has so much unused IP that they aren't using that it would strike me as odd to go with an outside property and pay licensing and then not make as much on any merchandise sales. Just doesn't seem Iger's way.

I know Avatar is the obvious counter example, but I think that's a unique case being the highest selling movie of all time and because the conservation fit with DAK. Sure, LOTR for example is a huge, loved property -- but would it really be that much "better" than an Indiana Jones ride?

I'm absolutely befuddled at what this could possibly be. Right now, I'm guessing a copy of the POTC ride from Shanghai. That's synergy, that's an E-ticket but not a thrill ride, and there could be some details that need to be worked out if Shanghai has some exclusivity for it. It wouldn't the first time they use Captain Jack in DHS.
"Plenty of synergy" but still has some rights that would need shored up? Sounds like Wreck-It Ralph to me! ;)
 

Karakasa

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Oh man, I'd love a Wreck-it Ralph ride. Too bad Bowser and other Nintendo characters couldn't make it in, but maybe the likes of QBert, Zangief, Blinky, Sonic, Eggman, Pacman, or Chun-Li (I know she was a non-speaking cameo let me dream!!) could be in.
 

doctornick

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How about the land of an animal metropolis in, I dunno, maybe the park about animals?

People can disagree but IMHO Zootopia isn't a good fit for DAK. Anthropomorphic animals don't really jive with the actual real animals upon which the park is based. Using toon animals that are supposed to be real animals works better (e.g. Bambi or 101 Dalmatians or Lady and the Tramp fit better than Robin Hood or Zootopia).
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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People can disagree but IMHO Zootopia isn't a good fit for DAK. Anthropomorphic animals don't really jive with the actual real animals upon which the park is based. Using toon animals that are supposed to be real animals works better (e.g. Bambi or 101 Dalmatians or Lady and the Tramp fit better than Robin Hood or Zootopia).
I don't get everyone wanting to throw every movie character into the parks. Zootopia is another movie that quietly made very good but people forget about in six months. John Lasseter wanted DLR to get a new ride for each Pixar movie that came out and didn't happen. It's a shame that Bambi, lady & The Tramp and 101 Dalmatians aren't in the parks. It would be a nice, family friendly area.
 

JustInTime

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How about the land of an animal metropolis in, I dunno, maybe the park about animals?
Realllllllly no need for I dunno, sarcasm. I think the theme of animal kingdom is almost too rich to put Zootpia. It fits, but I prefer the realistic feel of each land currently in Ak. Even Pandora feels lush, rich and real. Zootpia is much more cartoon-ish. Sure there are lush scenes, but I still feel like the city section would fit well into DHS. A thrill ride with Flash as your guide could be really fun. But I'm not opposed to it going in either park.
 

Karakasa

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@DarthFiscus75 It is a shame that so many animated Disney movies seem to get forgotten these days so quickly, Frozen being the big exception. It's not like they're bad- they're just about as good as the Disney Renaissance films, with some of the better modern era ones being, well, better than quite a few of the renaissance's. A bit off topic a remark, but I'll tie it in with saying I'd really like to see some attractions based on one of the recent ones. That being said, I think just having M&G characters for the majority is a decent enough way of representing them in the parks.

... then again if they can have Frozen in three different parks, I think they can manage something special for Zootopia given that after Frozen it is the top grossing of their animated films (without counting Pixar). Needn't be a miniland or a full land- just a dark or thrill ride of some sort might be nice, or somehow giving it a decent role in an attraction with several other Disney IPs... or if none of those, at the VERY least a dedicated M&G area akin to the now shuttered Pixie Hollow or the Character Spot for Joy and Sadness at Epcot.
 

sWANNISAX

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. A thrill ride with Flash as your guide could be really fun. But I'm not opposed to it going in either park.

Love that flash idea. Could be really cool. Zootopia is so rich for ideas and unique places to visit. I almost think a ride where you get into a car and its most simulation with screens coils even work. With 4d effects as you move through the different areas.
How cute would a kiddy ride like then Heimlich ride in dca be themed to the rodent town.

I agree it might be weird in aK since it's not realistic but at the same time it is animal based on fantasy. Bugs life isn't hyper real either though and that works. I don't think building an actual Zootopia is necessary but a great ride could be slotted in somewhere. Honestly the seas belongs more in ak to at this point but it don't see them moving it but an entire marine life area themed off dory would be so perfect as ak expansion.
 
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JustInTime

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Love that flash idea. Could be really cool. Zootopia is so rich for ideas and unique places to visit. I almost think a ride where you get into a car and its most simulation with screens coils even work. With 4d effects as you move through the different areas.
How cute would a kiddy ride like then Heimlich ride in dca be themed to the rodent town.

I agree it might be weird in aK since it's not realistic but at the same time it is animal based on fantasy. Bugs life isn't hyper real either though and that works. I don't think building an actual Zootopia is necessary but a great ride could be slotted in somewhere. Honestly the seas belongs more in ak to at this point but it don't see them moving it but an entire marine life area themed off dory would be so perfect as ak expansion.
Totally agree!!
 

brb1006

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I don't get everyone wanting to throw every movie character into the parks. Zootopia is another movie that quietly made very good but people forget about in six months. John Lasseter wanted DLR to get a new ride for each Pixar movie that came out and didn't happen. It's a shame that Bambi, lady & The Tramp and 101 Dalmatians aren't in the parks. It would be a nice, family friendly area.
A new family friendly area at AK would be great fit for the characters from Bambi and Brother Bear. The area could be like the former Camp Minnie Mickey but is themed inside a huge forest.
 

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