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[wdisney9000]

Jimmys posts (sometimes) contain good content if you sift through the other stuff.

A point he missed with that long post about Potter making Disney have more visitors is that while Potter visitors may stay at a Disney resort, they are buying less days on park tickets to WDW and spending less money at Disney parks on food and merch. You also have the opposite effect once Uni opens more resorts. There will be guests that stay at Uni and visit Disney for just a day or two. Especially people who have visited Disney often in years past. More exciting stuff going on at Uni and Disney knows it. Why else are we seeing Disney ads that are asking people to come visit and participate in their test? Its all they got right now.

 

[Cesar R M]

hey guys! in GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY news....

Seems some of the posters here were right.
they are making now videos of "character featurretes" to introduce the people to the chars.

first is DRAX



and Rocket's

 

[George1995]

Jimmys posts (sometimes) contain good content if you sift through the other stuff.

A point he missed with that long post about Potter making Disney have more visitors is that while Potter visitors may stay at a Disney resort, they are buying less days on park tickets to WDW and spending less money at Disney parks on food and merch. You also have the opposite effect once Uni opens more resorts. There will be guests that stay at Uni and visit Disney for just a day or two. Especially people who have visited Disney often in years past. More exciting stuff going on at Uni and Disney knows it. Why else are we seeing Disney ads that are asking people to come visit and participate in their test? Its all they got right now.

I definitely agree with what you're saying, but I think the one thing I disagree with is that the people who do decide to stay on site at Universal will stay in the UNI parks for the majority of their vacation. Right now, while UNI is clearly expanding more than WDW, they still don't have nearly as much substance as Disney does. In the future maybe they will be able to spend the majority of their vacation at Universal, but right now I don't see what a family could do there for more than 2 or 3 days until they run out of stuff to do.

 

[Jane Doe]

Jimmys posts (sometimes) contain good content if you sift through the other stuff.

A point he missed with that long post about Potter making Disney have more visitors is that while Potter visitors may stay at a Disney resort, they are buying less days on park tickets to WDW and spending less money at Disney parks on food and merch. You also have the opposite effect once Uni opens more resorts. There will be guests that stay at Uni and visit Disney for just a day or two. Especially people who have visited Disney often in years past. More exciting stuff going on at Uni and Disney knows it. Why else are we seeing Disney ads that are asking people to come visit and participate in their test? Its all they got right now.

Never stayed on site at either WDW or UNI but if I was tempted to splurge a little I'd be more likely to spend less cash at a superior on-site hotel which is closer to the parks and have unlimited front of the line access then spend my evening at Citywalk knowing I can have a few drinks and not have to bother about driving.

But I'm a bit off the wall that way.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

I like Disney World, sue me.

Jimmy Thick- Among other things...

We all like Disney World.

 

[wdisney9000]

Wasn't that long ago that being black in this country was not a "protected class". Did that make it alright back then? I think you know the answer!

People are born black. They dont become black by making unhealthy decisions with food. And like '74 said, there IS a very small percentage of people with actual weight issues that cant be helped. But lets be honest, most people that are obese got that way from over eating and not educating themselves on the poison that is the food they eat.

i used to weigh around 200 lbs 6 years ago. I educated myself on better eating habits and began exercising. Its 80% diet and 20% exercise to be healthy. I replaced my addiction to bad food with addiction to exercise. Would I rather eat a cheeseburger for diner than egg whites and veggies? Sure. But I dont. its not hard. Sorry for thread drift everyone.

 

[sshindel]

If you all value this thread and it's discussion space, I'd suggest potentially curbing this whole "overweight = race" discussion. It's all going to end in deletions, thread locks, and possible bannings. I'd love to see the whole discussion about overweight guests do the same, but IMO there are some valid points of conversation in there (strictly in regards to how and why Disney treats it's guests of all sizes, shapes, and abilities).

 

[danlb_2000]

hey guys! in GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY news....

Seems some of the posters here were right.
they are making now videos of "character featurretes" to introduce the people to the chars.

first is DRAX



and Rocket's

I am impressed with the CGI on Rocket based on what they have shown so far. Looks very realistic.

 

[doctornick]

I will say he has a point with myself and some friends. The only reason we are going to Disney this year is due to Diagon Alley. But of course we are staying 7 days on Disney property and have a 5 day hopper. We plan on spending 2 days at Uni.

I'm sure we are not the only ones (btw our trips were planned separately and we just notified each other)

I'm doing the same over the summer. 3 days at Uni, but then 4-5 days in the parks at WDW (though it helps to justify it since we have a PAP for WDW so it's the hotel stay that is the main expense) -- we probably wouldn't make the trip except to see the new stuff at Uni.

 

[spacemt354]

We all like Disney World.

If so, then I'm not sure how a pro-Disney opinion on a Disney forum is considered "nonsense" and "trolling" and we are resorting to names like "asshat" to describe such a poster.

Putting him on ignore would solve all your problems if you feel so strongly about these opinions

 

[Astro Blaster]

On my FIRST day

1 - Get rid of anyone associated with Eisner's 'Strategic Planning' group
2 - S---can the 'One Disney' garbage
3 - Establish 'Office Hours' where CM's could meet with me one on one to discuss concerns
4 - Eliminate current executive bonus system and implement a profit sharing plan
5 - Halt all NEW DVC construction.
6 - Reduce room prices
7 - IMMEDIATELY schedule FULL refurbishments for signature attractions - Take the hit on attractions now for returns later even if it means slashing room prices
8 - Initiate plans to improve Dining and Resort experiences
9 - Eliminate MM+
10 - Start work on new on site perk with front line CM's taking the lead since they understand Guests BEST
11 - Require all executives to stay 1 week per year at WDW as a Guest.
12 - Require all executives to be in park 1 week per month as a front line CM

Makes for a long day - but doable.

A lot of good ideas. As for MM+, since Disney has spent billions, it's not just going to vanish into the night. If I were put in charge of WDW, I would look at the technology and see how it could be used to IMPROVE the guest experience in ways previously impossible.

If Disney is gathering all of this real-time data, how much of that can be put into guests' hands? Specific information may be of great use to Disney, but general, less-personal information could be passed onto guests. I don't have the exact andswer but all the NGE technology could be very beneficial beyond just data mining and excessive trip planning.

 

[ford91exploder]

A lot of good ideas. As for MM+, since Disney has spent billions, it's not just going to vanish into the night. If I were put in charge of WDW, I would look at the technology and see how it could be used to IMPROVE the guest experience in ways previously impossible.

If Disney is gathering all of this real-time data, how much of that can be put into guests' hands? Specific information may be of great use to Disney, but general, less-personal information could be passed onto guests. I don't have the exact andswer but all the NGE technology could be very beneficial beyond just data mining and excessive trip planning.

The problem with MM+ is the sunk costs fallacy, ie I've spent so much already I have to finish this, That being said there are PARTS of NGE which could be repurposed in a guest friendly manner it's not all bad but the problem with NGE is the implementation which is simply dreadful.

 

[spacemt354]

I wonder what archaeologists of a future civilization 2,500 years from now would think the purpose of WDW was when its excavated...

A strange polytheistic cult enclave, where people made pilgrimages to worship at the shrines of the gods Mickey Mouse, Minnie Mouse, Goofy, Donald, Pluto, Mermaid, Madame Leota, Captain Jack Sparrow, C3P0, R2D2, Peter Pan, Snow White, Buzz Light Year, Dumbo, etc.? And just a few miles away, a competing polytheistic cult at the Universal Studios archaeological site with shrines to its competing gods and goddesses Harry Potter, Men in Black, Transformers, Superman, Spiderman, Incredible Hulk, Terminator, Dr. Sues, Homer, E.T., etc.?

I don't know if this was your intention, but after all the debate (sometimes heated) back and forth through the thread, this comment made me crack up laughing somehow (in a good way!).

This post was such a curveball to the discussion and somehow inadvertently puts in perspective for me that we shouldn't take everything so seriously. Sure we all like certain things and defend our views but really we are talking about vacation destinations. There is no "right" opinion to which is better Disney vs. Uni. or Harry Potter vs Avatar etc. It's fun to debate and see what people think, but ganging up on someone because they have a different view is a little...er...overboard.

Thanks for this. Again I'm not sure what the intention was, but the mental image of a spaceship landing and archaeologists digging up mickey statues and then displaying them in a museum like dinosaur bones with the caption "Shrine to the god Mickey" is so bizarre yet somehow really funny Sorry if that's just me...

 

[ford91exploder]

I don't know if this was your intention, but after all the debate (sometimes heated) back and forth through the thread, this comment made me crack up laughing somehow (in a good way!).

This post was such a curveball to the discussion and somehow inadvertently puts in perspective for me that we shouldn't take everything so seriously. Sure we all like certain things and defend our views but really we are talking about vacation destinations. There is no "right" opinion to which is better Disney vs. Uni. or Harry Potter vs Avatar etc. It's fun to debate and see what people think, but ganging up on someone because they have a different view is a little...er...overboard.

Thanks for this. Again I'm not sure what the intention was, but the mental image of a spaceship landing and archaeologists digging up mickey statues and then displaying them in a museum like dinosaur bones with the caption "Shrine to the god Mickey" is so bizarre yet somehow really funny Sorry if that's just me...

Just the right post at just the right time I think!

 

[danlb_2000]

Interesting (in a disturbing way) to witness people gorge themselves on 'group think' while at the same time obsessing on the eating habits of others.

I think I figured out how the term "fat heads" originated.

Group think is for those who can't think.

Have a nice day!

"Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an incorrect or deviant decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences."

"harmony or conformity", "minimize conflict", "consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints", yeah that totally sounds like people on this message board.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Thanks for putting words in my mouth. Not sure how you got all that from me caring about people having to live with a correctable medical condition (whatever the reason may be).

For many, the reasons are insurmountable. Therefore no one should ever be ridiculed or marginalized. Including the "incompetent doctors".

Well, at least the "incompetent doctors were specific and didn't pull every doctor into that blanket condemnation. Unless, of course, they were overweight doctors, in which case, they are guilty of something, don't know what, but, they fit the profile.

 

[BrianLo]

Yes, this is a fruitless exercise so time to take things in a more positive direction...

Canadian Women's Curling and Hockey killed it today. Woohooo!

 

[Goofyernmost]

Thank you! These conversations never end well....

It's ended on my part. I have said everything I have to say and asked all the questions that still remain unanswered, but, in real life, there are injustices that we all have to live with. And out!

 

[wdwfan4ver]

Not quite. Pretty sure Steve has not taken WDWMagic public yet. If he ever did I would buy a majority share and ban spirited threads.

I wouldn't be so sure if I were you. There would be others that want be a majority share also if Steve takes WDWMagic public.

 

[PeterAlt]

"Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an incorrect or deviant decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences."

"harmony or conformity", "minimize conflict", "consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints", yeah that totally sounds like people on this message board.

This is true to a certain extent. Some people, like myself, will not give up certain ideologies for the sake of conformity. For example, ten years ago when conformity meant sticking up for Roy Disney in his campaign to throw Eisner out. I was about the only one not to conform to that I voiced support for Eisner instead. Recently, people conformed by accepting the lie that the monorail system too expensive to expand, that there was a never a plan to expand it, and we should just accept it the way it is. If conforming means accepting lies as truth, giving up hope, and letting dreams die, I will never conform for these things. The major of stuff I do agree with and have no problem joining with the conformists on.