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WDW1974

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From Brooksie


BURBANK, Calif. — The gathering at Walt Disney Animation here was supposed to be a giddy celebration. The studio had achieved the ultimate validation for its hard-fought creative rebirth: “Frozen,” its Nordic tale of two sisters and a wisecracking snowman, won two Oscars on Sunday, the same day the film crossed $1 billion at the global box office.
Disney's Frozen Official Trailer Video by Walt Disney Animation Studios
Blue snow cones for everyone! But the party Monday afternoon grew unexpectedly serious, as multiple Disney executives became overwhelmed recalling just how far the studio had come after a harrowing transition to computer-aided filmmaking. “There was talk of closing this place,” John Lasseter, chief creative officer for Pixar and Disney animation, said through tears. “And we said: ‘Not on our watch. We will never allow that to happen.' ”

Winning an Academy Award is a coup for any movie company, but the “Frozen” honors carry extra weight for Disney. Ever since the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences created the best animated feature prize in 2001, Pixar has dominated the category, winning seven times. Rivals including DreamWorks Animation have won all other years.

Photo
JP-DISNEY-master180.jpg

Left to right, Peter Del Vecho, producer of “Frozen”; John Lasseter, chief creative officer for Walt Disney Animation Studios; Jennifer Lee, the film’s co-director and writer; and Chris Buck, its other co-director. The movie has sold $1 billion in tickets globally.CreditWalt Disney Animation Studios
Never winning was a humiliation for a lot of artists at Disney, the shop where the art of mainstream animation was essentially born and home to such classics as “Dumbo,” “Cinderella” and “The Lion King.”

With “Frozen,” which also won a best song Oscar for the power ballad “Let It Go,” Walt Disney Animation can claim to be officially, absolutely and at long last back in the animation saddle. It also represents the payoff of a high-stakes bet that dates to Disney’s 2006 acquisition of Pixar for $7.4 billion. Two Pixar co-founders, Mr. Lasseter and Edwin E. Catmull, were put in charge of Disney’s legacy studio, where layoffs and creative misfires had resulted in a crisis of confidence.

Disney’s hand-drawn pictures suddenly seemed hopelessly outdated as Hollywood and audiences moved toward computer animation. Disney also became unsure of its storytelling, worrying that even young moviegoers had become too cynical for the company’s signature brand of upbeat fairy tales. A parade of new films, including “Meet the Robinsons,” “Home on the Range” and “Chicken Little,” failed to impress.

Anxiety inside the animation studio increased with the arrival of mighty Pixar as a corporate sibling, recalled Andrew Millstein, general manager of Walt Disney Animation, as he spoke to his 800 or so assembled workers on Monday. “There was a little fear,” he said, recalling the grim vibe that prevailed. “There was a little touch of envy.” Maybe Walt Disney Animation was too broken to fix?

Instead of pulling the plug, Robert A. Iger, who orchestrated the Pixar acquisition after he took over as Disney’s chief executive in 2005, asked Mr. Lasseter and Mr. Catmull to step in. The two men, in concert with Mr. Millstein and Alan Bergman, president of Disney’s broader movie operation, started by ordering up a full restart of a gestating film that became “Bolt.” It took in a relatively modest $310 million at the global box office in 2008.

Then came “The Princess and the Frog,” a musical without many memorable tunes that became a box-office disappointment, taking in just $267 million, less than it cost to make and market. (The well-reviewed movie did, importantly, give Disney its first black princess.) But the 2010 release of “Tangled” finally started to reveal some real creative spark; the operational changes that Mr. Lasseter and Mr. Catmull put into place were working.

“Tangled,” an expensive, semi-musical retelling of the “Rapunzel” story, took in $592 million.

Last year, “Wreck-It Ralph,” which took in $471 million, became a serious Oscar contender, losing to Pixar’s “Brave” in a tight race.

Disneyphiles started referring to the turnaround work of Mr. Lasseter and Mr. Catmull as a “second renaissance,” a reference to a pre-Pixar fertile period in the 1990s when Walt Disney Animation delivered megahit musicals like “Beauty and the Beast” and “The Lion King.”

But the retooled Walt Disney Animation still lacked a true smash hit, a film that not only ignites a box-office inferno but becomes a cultural phenomenon.

Enter “Frozen.” Directed by Chris Buck and Jennifer Lee and produced by Peter Del Vecho, the film captivated women and girls in particular, thousands of whom started posting videos of themselves online singing “Let It Go.” The soundtrack, with original musicwritten by Robert Lopez and Kristen Anderson-Lopez, spent five weeks as No. 1 on the Billboard album chart, beating a new release from Beyoncé.

“We knew that you had it in you,” Mr. Catmull said on Monday, his voice cracking.

“I don’t know that everybody else knew.”

Mr. Lasseter did him one better: “Let it go,” he advised the crowd of the studio’s dark period. “We’re never going back there.”

The path ahead may be only slightly easier for Walt Disney Animation.

Competitors are growing stronger all the time — witness “The Lego Movie,” the current hit created by Warner Bros. — and Disney’s next few animated movies are risky, ambitious endeavors. “Big Hero 6,” scheduled for release in November, is an action comedy about a robotics prodigy trying to save a high-tech city called San Fransokyo.

As Pixar has learned, running at the front of the pack can be mighty challenging, as consumers, Hollywood and the news media begin to hold output to a higher standard.

But rather than dwelling on all of that, Disney’s animators on Monday ultimately started partying hearty. Staff members rowdily posed with the Oscar statuettes, while two voice actors from “Frozen,” Josh Gad and Jonathan Groff, gave bear hugs to Mr. Lasseter, who snapped photos with his iPhone.

Along with Champagne and snow cones, the studio served a buffet that featured blue candy and Blue Moon beer. An in-house band, the Steamboat Strummers, played a ukulele version of “Let It Go.” (Mr. Iger had to miss the celebration because he was en route to Shanghai, but Mr. Millstein assured the group that he had “beamed like a Cheshire cat” when “Frozen” won.)

Still, the festivities never veered too far from deep appreciation for the attention Mr. Lasseter and Mr. Catmull had lavished on the studio. Ms. Lee, who based her “Frozen” screenplay on Hans Christian Andersen’s “Snow Queen,” summed up her feelings on the matter by quoting from a “Frozen” song.

“People make bad choices if they’re mad, or scared, or stressed,” she recited. “Throw a little love their way, and you’ll bring out their best.”

Correction: March 4, 2014
An earlier version of this article misspelled the surname of the writer of “The Snow Queen.” It is Hans Christian Andersen, not Anderson. The earlier version of the article also referred incorrectly to the box-office take of the film “Bolt.” It earned $310 million globally, not domestically.

Sorry, dreamfinder, I'm not going to ever like a piece of PR masquerading as news and placed in what is supposed to be a top source or real journalism today.

And loved how he made sure to slip in that Bob's headed to Shanghai. Need to prop up that ego and make sure folks know that Michael Eisner isn't the only one spending time at the new resort's construction site.
How vain.
 

WDW1974

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Disney officially loading in something else would be a HUGE issue and I think it would surface given the wide array of people that visit Walt Disney World. The bigger concern would probably be somebody along the line tampering with the drive to include malware.

Well, I have read (I think it was here on the MM+ board) about people finding malware on the flashes ... have no idea how true or how widespread this is.
 

WDW1974

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Before I go watch Sam Eagle hanging with Jimmy K and Co (just a night after Gonzo got shafted by Toromto Mayor DrunkCrackFatHead Ford!), I wanted to thank all of you that have taken part in this thread. We're over a quarter of a million views in a month and since I have been quite ill for three of those weeks, it hasn't been me largely pushing the thread ... so, even when you've gone a bit off any Disney or entertainment topic, you have kept it chugging along. And shown what REAL social media is all about ...

Do you think Dr. Blondie will invite us all to the Whorefest next month?
 

lazyboy97o

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Well, I have read (I think it was here on the MM+ board) about people finding malware on the flashes ... have no idea how true or how widespread this is.
A search of the MyMagic+ only yields this one post that is the poster's sole post.
We got our flash drive today for our Feb. trip, I plugged it into my laptop and my virus cleaner had fun with it. I have been searching around to see if anyone else has had this problem (in Chrome, the message says, "danger, malware ahead!") and my searching came up with this thread.

I called DVC Member Services, explained the issue, and I was transferred to someone in IT. I don't think it's my computer, my husband tried opening it on his laptop with the same results....
Immediately I am not sure if the poster is entirely sure of what is occurring. Chrome is a browser, not anti-malware software. False red flags are also not uncommon for the built in security that would send up such a message nor would it be odd for a computer to question files just sending a person online. Depending on how Chrome is set up the message on two separate computers could also be of no consequence.

A quick glance of a forum-wide search does not show anything else relevant to the issue.

All that said, some rather sophisticated malware can be loaded via these drives.
 

choco choco

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Anxiety inside the animation studio increased with the arrival of mighty Pixar as a corporate sibling, recalled Andrew Millstein, general manager of Walt Disney Animation, as he spoke to his 800 or so assembled workers on Monday. “There was a little fear,” he said, recalling the grim vibe that prevailed. “There was a little touch of envy.” Maybe Walt Disney Animation was too broken to fix?

Between this and Andrew Millstein's interview in The Hollywood Reporter, this is the second time I've heard that Disney Animation is made up of 800 people.

Is it just me or does that seem low? Has CGI really streamlined animation or have their ranks been decimated? Doesn't TDA have more people than that? How can that be, when TDA isn't responsible for creating a product?
 

the.dreamfinder

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Sorry, dreamfinder, I'm not going to ever like a piece of PR masquerading as news and placed in what is supposed to be a top source or real journalism today.

And loved how he made sure to slip in that Bob's headed to Shanghai. Need to prop up that ego and make sure folks know that Michael Eisner isn't the only one spending time at the new resort's construction site.
How vain.
Perhaps getting Brooksie fired will make you better!
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Between this and Andrew Millstein's interview in The Hollywood Reporter, this is the second time I've heard that Disney Animation is made up of 800 people.

Is it just me or does that seem low? Has CGI really streamlined animation or have their ranks been decimated? Doesn't TDA have more people than that? How can that be, when TDA isn't responsible for creating a product?
Staff is mostly hired as needed per project.
 

Magenta Panther

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From Brooksie


BURBANK, Calif. — The gathering at Walt Disney Animation here was supposed to be a giddy celebration. The studio had achieved the ultimate validation for its hard-fought creative rebirth: “Frozen,” its Nordic tale of two sisters and a wisecracking snowman, won two Oscars on Sunday, the same day the film crossed $1 billion at the global box office.
Disney's Frozen Official Trailer Video by Walt Disney Animation Studios
Blue snow cones for everyone! But the party Monday afternoon grew unexpectedly serious, as multiple Disney executives became overwhelmed recalling just how far the studio had come after a harrowing transition to computer-aided filmmaking. “There was talk of closing this place,” John Lasseter, chief creative officer for Pixar and Disney animation, said through tears. “And we said: ‘Not on our watch. We will never allow that to happen.' ”

Winning an Academy Award is a coup for any movie company, but the “Frozen” honors carry extra weight for Disney. Ever since the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences created the best animated feature prize in 2001, Pixar has dominated the category, winning seven times. Rivals including DreamWorks Animation have won all other years.

Photo
JP-DISNEY-master180.jpg

Left to right, Peter Del Vecho, producer of “Frozen”; John Lasseter, chief creative officer for Walt Disney Animation Studios; Jennifer Lee, the film’s co-director and writer; and Chris Buck, its other co-director. The movie has sold $1 billion in tickets globally.CreditWalt Disney Animation Studios
Never winning was a humiliation for a lot of artists at Disney, the shop where the art of mainstream animation was essentially born and home to such classics as “Dumbo,” “Cinderella” and “The Lion King.”

With “Frozen,” which also won a best song Oscar for the power ballad “Let It Go,” Walt Disney Animation can claim to be officially, absolutely and at long last back in the animation saddle. It also represents the payoff of a high-stakes bet that dates to Disney’s 2006 acquisition of Pixar for $7.4 billion. Two Pixar co-founders, Mr. Lasseter and Edwin E. Catmull, were put in charge of Disney’s legacy studio, where layoffs and creative misfires had resulted in a crisis of confidence.

Disney’s hand-drawn pictures suddenly seemed hopelessly outdated as Hollywood and audiences moved toward computer animation. Disney also became unsure of its storytelling, worrying that even young moviegoers had become too cynical for the company’s signature brand of upbeat fairy tales. A parade of new films, including “Meet the Robinsons,” “Home on the Range” and “Chicken Little,” failed to impress.

Anxiety inside the animation studio increased with the arrival of mighty Pixar as a corporate sibling, recalled Andrew Millstein, general manager of Walt Disney Animation, as he spoke to his 800 or so assembled workers on Monday. “There was a little fear,” he said, recalling the grim vibe that prevailed. “There was a little touch of envy.” Maybe Walt Disney Animation was too broken to fix?

Instead of pulling the plug, Robert A. Iger, who orchestrated the Pixar acquisition after he took over as Disney’s chief executive in 2005, asked Mr. Lasseter and Mr. Catmull to step in. The two men, in concert with Mr. Millstein and Alan Bergman, president of Disney’s broader movie operation, started by ordering up a full restart of a gestating film that became “Bolt.” It took in a relatively modest $310 million at the global box office in 2008.

Then came “The Princess and the Frog,” a musical without many memorable tunes that became a box-office disappointment, taking in just $267 million, less than it cost to make and market. (The well-reviewed movie did, importantly, give Disney its first black princess.) But the 2010 release of “Tangled” finally started to reveal some real creative spark; the operational changes that Mr. Lasseter and Mr. Catmull put into place were working.

“Tangled,” an expensive, semi-musical retelling of the “Rapunzel” story, took in $592 million.

Last year, “Wreck-It Ralph,” which took in $471 million, became a serious Oscar contender, losing to Pixar’s “Brave” in a tight race.

Disneyphiles started referring to the turnaround work of Mr. Lasseter and Mr. Catmull as a “second renaissance,” a reference to a pre-Pixar fertile period in the 1990s when Walt Disney Animation delivered megahit musicals like “Beauty and the Beast” and “The Lion King.”

But the retooled Walt Disney Animation still lacked a true smash hit, a film that not only ignites a box-office inferno but becomes a cultural phenomenon.

Enter “Frozen.” Directed by Chris Buck and Jennifer Lee and produced by Peter Del Vecho, the film captivated women and girls in particular, thousands of whom started posting videos of themselves online singing “Let It Go.” The soundtrack, with original musicwritten by Robert Lopez and Kristen Anderson-Lopez, spent five weeks as No. 1 on the Billboard album chart, beating a new release from Beyoncé.

“We knew that you had it in you,” Mr. Catmull said on Monday, his voice cracking.

“I don’t know that everybody else knew.”

Mr. Lasseter did him one better: “Let it go,” he advised the crowd of the studio’s dark period. “We’re never going back there.”

The path ahead may be only slightly easier for Walt Disney Animation.

Competitors are growing stronger all the time — witness “The Lego Movie,” the current hit created by Warner Bros. — and Disney’s next few animated movies are risky, ambitious endeavors. “Big Hero 6,” scheduled for release in November, is an action comedy about a robotics prodigy trying to save a high-tech city called San Fransokyo.

As Pixar has learned, running at the front of the pack can be mighty challenging, as consumers, Hollywood and the news media begin to hold output to a higher standard.

But rather than dwelling on all of that, Disney’s animators on Monday ultimately started partying hearty. Staff members rowdily posed with the Oscar statuettes, while two voice actors from “Frozen,” Josh Gad and Jonathan Groff, gave bear hugs to Mr. Lasseter, who snapped photos with his iPhone.

Along with Champagne and snow cones, the studio served a buffet that featured blue candy and Blue Moon beer. An in-house band, the Steamboat Strummers, played a ukulele version of “Let It Go.” (Mr. Iger had to miss the celebration because he was en route to Shanghai, but Mr. Millstein assured the group that he had “beamed like a Cheshire cat” when “Frozen” won.)

Still, the festivities never veered too far from deep appreciation for the attention Mr. Lasseter and Mr. Catmull had lavished on the studio. Ms. Lee, who based her “Frozen” screenplay on Hans Christian Andersen’s “Snow Queen,” summed up her feelings on the matter by quoting from a “Frozen” song.

“People make bad choices if they’re mad, or scared, or stressed,” she recited. “Throw a little love their way, and you’ll bring out their best.”

Correction: March 4, 2014
An earlier version of this article misspelled the surname of the writer of “The Snow Queen.” It is Hans Christian Andersen, not Anderson. The earlier version of the article also referred incorrectly to the box-office take of the film “Bolt.” It earned $310 million globally, not domestically.

That's a lovely story. (Although I think PatF's song "Almost There" beats the crap out of "Let It Go".)

THIS is why I'm so glad Frozen's a big hit, even though I didn't like it much. It's just what WDAS needed. I'm so happy it's on top again. Too bad it's working on a stupid Marvel superhero cartoon next, but I wish it the best.
 

Violiav

Active Member
All the flash drive does is bring you to the MDE site and open the video of Edna talking about magic bands (according to others reports). I haven't even taken it out of the box and its been sitting in my house for a couple of months. Others have re-formatted the drive to use for other purposes because it is shaped like a magic band reader.

I didn't get a flash drive, just a little info booklet (and a magnet with important dates, like when I'm supposed to get there) with the website disneyworld.com/incredibles with that video of Edna. Cute little video, but no real information.
Since I've never been to WDW I really don't have any preconceived notions of MagicBands, etc. Heck, the last time I was at Disneyland fastpass had really just started, so in my mind Disney=lines. I waited in a forever line for Rocket Rods. :/ If the things work, they work, if not then I'll deal with that when I get there. BUT as far as I can tell everything seems to be set up correctly on my end as far as how things are linked.
 

FigmentJedi

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That's a lovely story. (Although I think PatF's song "Almost There" beats the crap out of "Let It Go".)

THIS is why I'm so glad Frozen's a big hit, even though I didn't like it much. It's just what WDAS needed. I'm so happy it's on top again. Too bad it's working on a stupid Marvel superhero cartoon next, but I wish it the best.
But Jeff Loeb isn't involved whatsoever in Big Hero Six. It's going to be an actually good Marvel superhero cartoon.
 

the.dreamfinder

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Between this and Andrew Millstein's interview in The Hollywood Reporter, this is the second time I've heard that Disney Animation is made up of 800 people.

Is it just me or does that seem low? Has CGI really streamlined animation or have their ranks been decimated? Doesn't TDA have more people than that? How can that be, when TDA isn't responsible for creating a product?
Compared to Pixar, which supposedly has 2000 plus employees, it is small. I'll go into why in a second, but here are the most recent Animation Guild employment numbers from the middle of 2013. The number is 856 union employees at ALL of Disney Animation (WDAS, TVA, DisneyToons). So factor that in plus folks in management and non TAG positions and it should be in the ballpark of the 800s.
http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/2013/07/where-jobs-have-been-going.html

Like @lazyboy97o said, it's all about production capacity. If you have features that are moving into production, you need to hire folks so you get those films out on time. Conversely, if a major project is taken out of production then you could potentially see layoffs or folks being shuffled onto other projects which is what happened last year when DreamWorks "Me and My Shadow" went back to preproduction to fix story while DreamWorks expanded their television animation division in addition to belt tightening after a number of underperforming films. Part of the reason why that 800 employees number sounds so small is that WDAS, like Pixar, averages a film a year despite Pixar being the larger studio. It's not so much technology cutting jobs, but that the Roy E. Disney Building was not designed, or well thought out according to some folks, to be the only Walt Disney Animation production facility. Remember Disney Feature Animation Florida at MGM or Disney Feature Animation Paris? These facilities completed a lot of work on the Disney features in the 90's and early 2000's. The Burbank building is designed for that context where it's doing most of the preproduction and a good chunk, but not all, of the production work. It's hard for them to expand WDAS because it was never built to be an animation studio where all of the work on the feature in pre-production and production (Story, PreViz, Layout, Animation, Effects, Lighting, Rendering) are done under one roof. To put it another way, the nice folks at Walt Disney Animation work very hard to get their films out on time despite their small size.

Now John Lasseter and TWDS did examine building larger facilities on the Disney Lot or near WDI in Glendale in 2007-2008 for Disney Animation, but those plans appear to be dead because the firm contracted to do those designs Allied Works Architecture, who designed Pixar's new Brooklyn pre-production building, has placed them on their website. Perhaps now that Frozen has done well, they may consider building a new, larger campus long term, but the folks at TAG say they are doing some renovations to the Roy E Disney Building so it looks like they will be staying put for a while.
Disney Lot:http://www.alliedworks.com/projects/animation-studios-burbank/
Glendale/Grand Central Creative Campus:http://www.alliedworks.com/projects/animation-studios-glendale/
 
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Longhairbear

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Even more nickel-and-diming. This from allears.net:

Last week, after the All Ears Newsletter had been mailed, we became aware of an unannounced change in Disney's policy regarding tickets that were purchased from non-Disney sources. Several guests reported that when they attempted to add a day to their Magic your Way ticket that was purchased from a non-Disney source, they were refused and told that they would have to spend more than $100 for a single day ticket. Several tried at both their resort concierge and at a guest relations window and were told the same thing.

We called the Disney Ticketing office and and spoke to a supervisor. We were told that commencing with last week's price increase "3rd party tickets can no longer be upgraded to passes at a pro-rated rate, have days added, or have options added at a discount." A different call to a second Disney source confirmed it but added that this does not affect AAA.

On the basis of that, we changed our ticket FAQ to reflect the new policy. More refinement of the policy will likely become known as time passes. We will keep watching the situation and listening to our readers' comments about any problems or successes they have had in this area. - March 3, 2014​

And who thought things were going to change under George "The Fall Guy" Kalogridis? :(
I've run across something you might want to expand on. Another site has a fairy recent thread regarding DVC members spending less time in the parks, thanks to MM+, among other reasons. They can get in and out quicker, and get back to their villas to relax, or even cook in, or go off property to have dinner. To some , it seems, MM+ has helped them do the parks in much less time then before. I bet Disney didn't see that angle coming.
 

StageFrenzy

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I've run across something you might want to expand on. Another site has a fairy recent thread regarding DVC members spending less time in the parks, thanks to MM+, among other reasons. They can get in and out quicker, and get back to their villas to relax, or even cook in, or go off property to have dinner. To some , it seems, MM+ has helped them do the parks in much less time then before. I bet Disney didn't see that angle coming.

Makes sense, DVC are usually "in the know" experienced users who for the most part have been there, done that. They are happy to hit their favorite attractions, take in a little atmosphere and get out of the crush of humanity and tourists. MM+ allows them to surgically strike the parks and get out in record time.

I'll give you an example of my recent 2 hr trip to BGT. Started out towards Cheetah hunt*, audibled to skyride.** Was headed to Jungala, got distracted by orangutans that were moving and then proceeded to the Gibbons. After watching the gibbons, headed to Kumba rode front row because I only had to wait one train. I walked through Timbuktu to check out FF progress, watched the steam train huff passed me. Because steam=magic. Then I went through the former animal care center/nursery and curiosity caverns. Over to Montu and back through the Edge of Africa to look at the sleeping lions and to get one of those Mold-a-rama figures that @Skyway and @hakunamatata were talking about. That was a sweet hit of nostalgia. Walked towards the exit through Myombe Reserve and finished off by purchasing fudge for the wife, otherwise I would pay.


*For some reason I can’t stand waiting in that line. I get a slightly claustrophobic feeling and the bad decor
**Anyone know what is going on in the former dolphin/3d theater?
 

JimboJones123

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Oh of course. All I mean is, its such a bombastic, over-the-top spectacular...the last thing I'd call it is subtle.
The quiet moments when it takes its time.

There is no ogre and donkey on a dragon being chased by a ghost dragon while seats shake.

I'll subtly make a list of quiet points that clearly would never make it at another theme park when I see it today.
 

GymLeaderPhil

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Even more nickel-and-diming. This from allears.net:

Last week, after the All Ears Newsletter had been mailed, we became aware of an unannounced change in Disney's policy regarding tickets that were purchased from non-Disney sources. Several guests reported that when they attempted to add a day to their Magic your Way ticket that was purchased from a non-Disney source, they were refused and told that they would have to spend more than $100 for a single day ticket. Several tried at both their resort concierge and at a guest relations window and were told the same thing.

We called the Disney Ticketing office and and spoke to a supervisor. We were told that commencing with last week's price increase "3rd party tickets can no longer be upgraded to passes at a pro-rated rate, have days added, or have options added at a discount." A different call to a second Disney source confirmed it but added that this does not affect AAA.

On the basis of that, we changed our ticket FAQ to reflect the new policy. More refinement of the policy will likely become known as time passes. We will keep watching the situation and listening to our readers' comments about any problems or successes they have had in this area. - March 3, 2014​

And who thought things were going to change under George "The Fall Guy" Kalogridis? :(
It seems like they purchased tickets prior to the price increase and then when they tried to upgrade the tickets they were told that they needed to pay the difference for the price increase (the cost to bring it to the gate price) in addition to the upgrade.

Without seeing the tickets we can't be 100% certain what or why they were told this. However two years ago they discontinued the practice of price bridging multi-day/Magic Your Way tickets in regards to ticket price increases. They still however honor certificates for tickets and Disney will eat the cost on activating those. I think All Ears missed the memo on that.
 

alphac2005

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Back in the day one punched the bully in the nose (if one had the stones) and the bullying ended, Now current policies make the bullying worse until some kid snaps.

That's what happened to me. I was sick of this pain, decked him in the face, and it was done with. I had another kid try to bully me and he was such a [fill in the blank], my friend, who was a guy that you wouldn't want to mess with, let the bully know pretty firmly that if he messed with me at all, he'd end up in the dumpster. Never heard a peep from the bully kid again.

At our kids' school, if a kid retaliates, he or she gets in more trouble than the bully. <FACEPALM>
 

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