The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

fillerup

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The point I'm trying to make here is that it appears that the main users of the new system are one select little demographic wow the Walt Disney World resort attracts all ages from around the world.

I may be misreading this paragraph, but I'd disagree that the main users are one small demographic. I don't doubt that some of the people you referred to in an earlier post don't like the system, but my observation is that this system is gaining wide acceptance.

Starting about 6 months ago, on my (almost) weekly visits to the parks I started making it a point of looking at wrists. To my surprise actually, I'd put the MB adoption rate at this point at 60% or maybe even north of that. And I've rarely heard any about the system - people seem to be pretty happy with it.

Other locals I know, who were wildly unenthusiastic about this system last fall are now routinely wearing the bands. I don't have a band, don't want a band, and won't wear a band but I have actually logged on a couple of times in the last two months and booked a FP+ for popular rides I haven't been on in a long time. This got me on TT for the first time since the redo and I rode Soarin' for the first time in years on a FP I booked on my wife's card.

I still hold the opinion that this is going to be a financial fiasco for TWDC, but I'm now of the opinion that it's going to be just fine for guests.
 

JoeCamel

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I'm starting to think we won't ever get a trackless ride in WDW until there's a major change at TDO where people who actually love and respect the resort are put in charge.

All they need to do is "borrow" SWO's Antartic "ride" and retheme it for Frozen. No one is using it anyways. I am sure they could do it for a lot less than the 40M claimed cost as they could leave out the merch and eats. Rather than the penguins at the end you could have the sisters.
 
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stlphil

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This is why WDW cannot have nice things... Pathetic cheap overlays shoehorned into areas they don't belong are now considered major by WDW fan standards. This is why there is no hope for WDW ever getting better. Just continued to be dumbed down to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
And for contrast, there is no way Disneyland fans would ever consider those type of additions "major", which is why they may still get nice things.
 

WDW1974

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So, left this thread 23 hours ago and we were at six pages and now we are at 22. With numbers that most lifestylers would kill for. Guess I know nothing about social media and stimulating conversation ... wonder if my pals at Celebration Place are reading. They should be. Always. But I just think something on this thread is going to wind up in major media soon. Just a funny feeling there! :D:devilish::cool:

Don't know where to begin really, so I'll just say tell you what I just found out: my Spirited parents rented a movie for tonight. What movie? Frozen, naturally. ... all on their own, so clearly the phenomenon continues.

Before I somehow forget, weirdest thing I saw for sale at DLR: duct tape in either Spidey or Hulk variety in what once was the Starcade. Why this product even exists is a bit beyond my comprehension. But so were those Walt staches that were being dumped at Company D/Property Control in Anaheim.

Maleficent, which opens Friday, looked much better than I expected in a preview at DCA. Jolie looks to be relishing the role and buying into a role like that can go a long way to selling it to the masses.

Saw Captain America and Saving Mr. Banks on my cruise. Liked them both, but thought they both were weaker than most fanbois would care to admit. Cap only makes sense if you totally throw away any rational thought whatsoever and is incredibly violent. Like way too many films today, it simply glosses over the fact that thousands of innocents would have to die for its action sequences to be believable. I'm just not sold on Marvel's way of making popcorn flicks. They entertain, but leave you with a lot of empty calories.

As for Banks. Well, Hanks wasn't as bad as Walt as I feared. But the film plays fast and loose with the facts and Thompson absolutely saves the film with her portrayal of a complicated woman.

Before I gush over DCL, which I will, let me rip them for one thing: desserts. They were almost universally mediocre. I don't understand how a cruise line that appeals to a lot of fat folks can get the best part of a meal so wrong.

Biggest difference between WDW and DLR? People are so much happier in Anaheim, both guests and cast. It has been this way as far back as my experience goes (first visit to DL was in 1990). DLR isn't overwhleming and everything doesn't have to be scheduled in advance (an absurd way to visit a theme park) and people are just more relaxed. You don't see those meltdowns a minute that you do in O-Town.
 

WDW1974

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An EPCOT note, but when I said Frozen was the only thing coming to the park in the near future that didn't include the new Soarin film. I'd expect that sometime in 2016 unless the Chinese demand a certain period of exclusivity.

Soarin, btw, looks soooo much better in Anaheim. But you all knew that, right? You also knew that waits never seem longer than an hour, even on the busiest of days ... and there is a single rider line that I took advantage of multiple times (just like RSRs, Screamin, Splash Mountain, Indy and Matterhorn).
 

ThemeParkJunkee

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One thing puzzles me, even a relatively "cheap" Frozen overlay of Maelstrom would require a considerable amount of closure time of a tier one attraction in a park that is is sore need of ANY attraction. Will they add a new M&G, designate it tier one and hope that fallout will be minimal? Will Mission Space and Spaceship Earth be designated tier one temporarily? Epcot cannot afford to close anything (well maybe CE or JII)
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Not sure it's a good idea to stress the rides and workers for a solid 60 hours, but holy crap....sixty hours straight?!

They did parties like this in the past in the 80s for special openings, etc. So it's not unheard of.. but it totallly reminds me of 'who wants to be a millionaire'. Disney sees something successful and then thinks if they keep doing it more and more somehow it's popularity will keep growing with it :/ They seem incapable of understanding the word 'saturation'
 

asianway

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So, left this thread 23 hours ago and we were at six pages and now we are at 22. With numbers that most lifestylers would kill for. Guess I know nothing about social media and stimulating conversation ... wonder if my pals at Celebration Place are reading. They should be. Always. But I just think something on this thread is going to wind up in major media soon. Just a funny feeling there! :D:devilish::cool:

Don't know where to begin really, so I'll just say tell you what I just found out: my Spirited parents rented a movie for tonight. What movie? Frozen, naturally. ... all on their own, so clearly the phenomenon continues.

Before I somehow forget, weirdest thing I saw for sale at DLR: duct tape in either Spidey or Hulk variety in what once was the Starcade. Why this product even exists is a bit beyond my comprehension. But so were those Walt staches that were being dumped at Company D/Property Control in Anaheim.

Maleficent, which opens Friday, looked much better than I expected in a preview at DCA. Jolie looks to be relishing the role and buying into a role like that can go a long way to selling it to the masses.

Saw Captain America and Saving Mr. Banks on my cruise. Liked them both, but thought they both were weaker than most fanbois would care to admit. Cap only makes sense if you totally throw away any rational thought whatsoever and is incredibly violent. Like way too many films today, it simply glosses over the fact that thousands of innocents would have to die for its action sequences to be believable. I'm just not sold on Marvel's way of making popcorn flicks. They entertain, but leave you with a lot of empty calories.

As for Banks. Well, Hanks wasn't as bad as Walt as I feared. But the film plays fast and loose with the facts and Thompson absolutely saves the film with her portrayal of a complicated woman.

Before I gush over DCL, which I will, let me rip them for one thing: desserts. They were almost universally mediocre. I don't understand how a cruise line that appeals to a lot of fat folks can get the best part of a meal so wrong.

Biggest difference between WDW and DLR? People are so much happier in Anaheim, both guests and cast. It has been this way as far back as my experience goes (first visit to DL was in 1990). DLR isn't overwhleming and everything doesn't have to be scheduled in advance (an absurd way to visit a theme park) and people are just more relaxed. You don't see those meltdowns a minute that you do in O-Town.
Sigh-remember when 7 night cruises would have the lavish midnight dessert buffet on semi formal night(not the pirate one, the all dessert in Lumieres/Tritons)? One of the few slips for DCL all these years
 

ThemeParkJunkee

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Yes Mr. Spirit, Soarin is much better at CA. I had the opportunity to compare the two in 2012 and the mere fact that the queue fits in CA and the ride fits in CA made it much more enjoyable. I was IN California at the time, planning our driving trip up the PCH and it added to my excitement for the next day. In Florida, it is just another of the few rides available.
 

WDW1974

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Sigh-remember when 7 night cruises would have the lavish midnight dessert buffet on semi formal night(not the pirate one, the all dessert in Lumieres/Tritons)? One of the few slips for DCL all these years

Will answer this out of order since I just saw it ... but they did a great looking dessert buffet on Night 14 of a 15-night cruise. I watched people lineup and went back to my cabin to sleep. At that point, I had no desire to eat whatsoever (my appetite still isn't fully back and we've been on land since May 17th!)

But outside of Palo, the desserts were just mediocre at best. ... and DCL needs to enter the modern cruising era with ice cream. If Celebrity can offer 8-12 flavors made on board daily, Disney needs to stop buying the stuff in 3-4 flavors and then doing four soft serves. It's just weak and not up to industry standards.
 

WDW1974

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You'd be surprised how hard it was to see any DVDs or Blu-rays anywhere in DLP. Not even in the movie studios theme park! Maybe a tiny selection in World of Disney and that's it, and that wasn't even recent titles. :confused:

I didn't look when there in January. But I don't think I have ever bought a DVD at a Disney theme park. ... I recall buying the Snow White VHS when it was first released at DD because it came with a LE pin (that I traded to a little girl from South Dakota on her first WDW visit while standing in line for Maelstrom on an EMH night about 6-7 years ago).
 

WDW1974

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Hey @WDW1974 , One of your old friends from LP (TDLFAN) showed up there and did a review of the Mine Train. Guess what, he thought it was the best thing that WDW has done in years. All in the spirit (sorry, you don't have the word spirit copyrighted yet do you) of the Disney of old. Thumbs up, great job. Yea, I know... I almost broke my keyboard as my jaw dropped. He said something good about WDW! Whoda thunk it! So perhaps you should reevaluate your thoughts about Mine Train. To go back a little ways in time... Hey, Mikey likes it!:jawdrop:

I have talked to him via email and already knew what his feelings were. I am quite happy that instead of mediocre C-Ticket that, apparently, Disney built a nice little D-Ticket. It looks like there might be something worthwhile in the New Fantasyland after all. ... But let's keep it in perspective, please.
 

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