The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

[Nubs70]

In that line of work, urine for some big discounts.

Or do you just work for tips?

Most likely, you'll just get the shaft.

 

[CrescentLake]

Maybe we're all looking at this from the wrong angle? Spirit said carnival rides, not Toy Story Playland, even though thats the obvious answer. Many have said before that they do not believe TSPL is coming...so perhaps its a conglomeration of flat rides from A Bug's Land, Carsland, TSPL, or others? Wouldn't that fit the Pixar Place theme better?

With that, there is an added potential of the area not looking like Chester and Hester.

 

[mgf]

4.) How come urology nurses only pay $239 a night for rooms at the Comtemporary?;

An extension of New Jersey's healthcare worker quarant.... I mean three week vacation program?

 

[stevehousse]

I think a bugs land area like DCA which doesn't have height requirements (except the bumper cars) would be a great fit for little ones instead of the toy story land rides...

 

[doctornick]

I think I'm the most upset about #2.

I'm okay with "carny rides" as long as (1) they are nicely done rides with good theming to the environment and, more importantly, (2) they are simply the first step to add capacity to DHS quickly while other/better rides are added in the longer term to improve the park.

I view this the way that DCA added It's a Bug's Land quickly to improve that park's offerings but much more better stuff was added over time. I hope this would follow the same path.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

I thought I read (maybe here?) that the parachute was dropped from Shanghai because of political sensitivities (US military theme)?

I believe it's a sight line issue. If they built Parachute Drop, you likely would be able to see it from the Gardens of Imagination because their TSL is right next to Fantasyland.

 

[ABQ]

I'm okay with "carny rides" as long as (1) they are nicely done rides with good theming to the environment and, more importantly, (2) they are simply the first step to add capacity to DHS quickly while other/better rides are added in the longer term to improve the park.

I view this the way that DCA added It's a Bug's Land quickly to improve that park's offerings but much more better stuff was added over time. I hope this would follow the same path.

I agree entirely. Though I'm not a fan of carnival rides, children love the Barnstormer, Dumbo, Carpets, etc... However, WDW cannot just throw in a spinner to eat children and call it a day, it must be, as you say, a first step. People have long complained the the HS do not have enough for families, and this would help alleviate that pain.
If this is even what 74 was hinting at, who knows. ?

 

[doctornick]

Maybe we're all looking at this from the wrong angle? Spirit said carnival rides, not Toy Story Playland, even though thats the obvious answer. Many have said before that they do not believe TSPL is coming...so perhaps its a conglomeration of flat rides from A Bug's Land, Carsland, TSPL, or others? Wouldn't that fit the Pixar Place theme better?

With that, there is an added potential of the area not looking like Chester and Hester.

Yeah, so my off the cuff preference would be having different rides from different movies rather than TSP. The problem is that the theming becomes an issue if you have flat rides devoted to different franchises -- how do you theme a land if it has stuff from such divergent movies as Toy Story, Cars, Monsters In, Incredibles, Bug's Life, etc (depending on what IP's are used). I've said before that having something like "Pixar Playland" makes sense on one level.

I'd love to see Mater's ride added to DHS, which is a great example of a high quality flat ride. But if there are plans to build some version of Cars Land at some point, I would guess that the ride would be part of that.

The HISTK playground is a large footprint. If that gets converted to a Bug's Life theme, as has been long rumored, I wonder if they would demolish part of the playground and put in 1-2 of the DCA Bug's Land rides in that area.

 

[ParksAndPixels]

If DHS stayed with a studio element or perhaps dedicate one part of the park to look like you've walked onto the PIXAR lot. And the characters have taken over the studio or roam free kinda vibe... Then you could theme around that idea... But idk, I'm really curious to see what and how they pull these new ideas together

 

[TeriofTerror]

I'm totally cool with midway-style rides in the Toy Story area if that means they'll use that part of the park to satisfy that demographic, and keep cheap kiddie rides out of Star Wars Land. I'm sure I've got a severe case of Pixie Dust Inhalation for even thinking it, but a girl can dream.

 

[Next Big Thing]

how do you theme a land if it has stuff from such divergent movies as Toy Story, Cars, Monsters In, Incredibles, Bug's Life, etc (depending on what IP's are used). I've said before that having something like "Pixar Playland" makes sense on one level.

Well the point kinda is that you're stepping into the world of Pixar Studios right? So isn't that the land?

 

[doctornick]

Well the point kinda is that you're stepping into the world of Pixar Studios right? So isn't that the land?

Sure, I suppose, but what would the surrounding scenery look like? An office building in Emeryville, CA?

I actually like the idea of a "Pixar Playland" where representatives from multiple franchises intermingle, I just think it's a tough thing to pull out effectively in terms of overall theming. I actually hope they go in that direction and WDI comes up with something good to unify it all.

 

[Ignohippo]

It's not silly because there are many times where there is a lot of over lap. And the whole point of even having events in GMR is so that you can walk through the ride and slowly eat your way through, course-by-course.

There shouldn't be "overlap". Disney should have large enough facilities available even if there is more demand – all centrally located and in one area.

As for dining at GMR, yes, it's silly. They don't offer dining at Space Mountain or It's A Small World. GMR is an attraction and it's an unnecessary disruption.

Honestly, I've always felt GMR should be a walkthrough anyway (on a smaller scale). Combine the sets of GMR with the artifacts of the AFI and you could have an amazing walkthrough attraction. It would also be a great place to showcase the latest Disney movies.

 

[Next Big Thing]

There shouldn't be "overlap". Disney should have large enough facilities available even if there is more demand – all centrally located and in one area.

As for dining at GMR, yes, it's silly. They don't offer dining at Space Mountain or It's A Small World. GMR is an attraction and it's an unnecessary disruption.

Honestly, I've always felt GMR should be a walkthrough anyway (on a smaller scale). Combine the sets of GMR with the artifacts of the AFI and you could have an amazing walkthrough attraction. It would also be a great place to showcase the latest Disney movies.

As much as I know you don't want to hear it, people who rent out area at WDW want the parks, they don't want WWoS or some area like that.

And your comparisons to GMR make little sense. GMR is a ride with a vast amount of sets, animatronics and theme on a walkable track. What is there to see of interest in a lights on Space Mountain? How exactly would you do a dinner in IASW?
You don't seem to understand why these events are popular.

 

[rael ramone]

A guess/theory:

A Toy Story/Pixar Spinner will NOT prevent a Star Wars spinner. (When MK has 4, you can't assume that 1 in a park is some sort of ceiling).

Spinners have small footprints. The demo that they are laser focused on making happy loves them.

 

[Ignohippo]

As much as I know you don't want to hear it, people who rent out area at WDW want the parks, they don't want WWoS or some area like that.

And your comparisons to GMR make little sense. GMR is a ride with a vast amount of sets, animatronics and theme on a walkable track. What is there to see of interest in a lights on Space Mountain? How exactly would you do a dinner in IASW?
You don't seem to understand why these events are popular.

Chill. It was sarcasm.

It doesn't take a brainiac to figure out why a company would want to rent out GMR. Nice job of COMPLETELY disregarding the second part of my post (about creating a smaller walkthrough version with actual artifacts, etc.). The new walkthrough version of GMR (relocated elsewhere at DHS) could be designed for these types of events and maybe even have a restaurant included in the footprint.

As for going to WWoS, there's no reason the new space for corporate events couldn't be in EPCOT around WoL. It's just time they sink money into it and build proper facilities. Re-design WoL so it actually does everything they need it to do to house these events rather than just setting up temporary tables at WoL, Odyssey, etc.

 

[Sped2424]

C'mon, it's better than Chester/Hester. I've seen ACTUAL carnivals that look better than Chester/Hester.

And let's not act like there isn't a place for these types of rides in the parks. The entire boardwalk AND a bugs land at DCA are basically all rides of this style. Also, i'd like to point out that everyone's favorite park that they've never been to, Tokyo Disney Sea, has a section of the park devoted to rides like this (Mermaid Lagoon). Jumpin' Jellyfish (basically what the green army men attraction is), Scuttles Scooters, Blowfish Balloon Race, The Whirlpool (teacups style attraction), and Flounders Flying Fish Coaster are a part of the area. I'll leave it to our world travelers on here who have experienced both to tell the difference in theme.

The point is, the areas exist and there is a place for them. There's a place for these types of rides in most parks, just as long as they aren't the main attraction and are highly themed. Things like this are meant as a diversion to help ease capacity from other rides or to give kids something to do as well.

How is it a leg up over chester hester? Honestly though. You have the same type of dedicated theming, the same rides created for solely capacity that can indeed be found at most major carnivals. Whether they belong in the park is another discussion. But for all intensive purposes this is the type of barebones land that I find more than equivalent with chester hesters play area. I actually think I might like chesters more.

 

[Next Big Thing]

How is it a leg up over chester hester? Honestly though. You have the same type of dedicated theming, the same rides created for solely capacity that can indeed be found at most major carnivals. Whether they belong in the park is another discussion. But for all intensive purposes this is the type of barebones land that I find more than equivalent with chester hesters play area. I actually think I might like chesters more.

Because Chester/Hester is "themed" to an ACTUAL carnival in a parking lot. At least TSPL has a bit of theming to it that doesn't remind me of where I park my car. TSPL is CLEARLY more themed and if you can't see that and would rather have Chester/Hester, there's no point in having this conversation.

That said, they both kinda suck.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Because Chester/Hester is "themed" to an ACTUAL carnival in a parking lot. At least TSPL has a bit of theming to it that doesn't remind me of where I park my car. TSPL is CLEARLY more themed and if you can't see that and would rather have Chester/Hester, there's no point in having this conversation.

That said, they both kind suck.

OMG, DinoRama is the biggest piece of four letter word I can think of. Here's DAK, this gorgeous, deeply ornate park...and an area purposefully themed to a tacky roadside carnival gets built. They made it hideous ON PURPOSE.

As the white girls say, I literally can't even.

 

[Sped2424]

Because Chester/Hester is "themed" to an ACTUAL carnival in a parking lot. At least TSPL has a bit of theming to it that doesn't remind me of where I park my car. TSPL is CLEARLY more themed and if you can't see that and would rather have Chester/Hester, there's no point in having this conversation.

That said, they both kinda suck.

And toy story play land is themed to toys left out in my grass yard. Real world class stuff there.