The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

[Goofyernmost]

Rule number one: don't touch anything.

I suppose it's because I'm getting fairly long in the tooth, but, that seems like a terrible way to live. Isolate, don't touch, stop breathing, carry 55 gallon drums of anti-bacterial soap, never travel. In short, find a cave and stay there until the all clear is sounded.

Something is going to kill every single one of us. If not right now, then later. There is no way to get out of it. Whatever life I still have left will not be spent being afraid of everything that I have absolutely no control over. Avoid all things like tobacco, fatty foods, get exercise, don't expose yourself to anything that seems even remotely dangerous and then get hit by a bus. It's all futile. Live, enjoy, deal with issues when they arise and control your surroundings when it doesn't interfere with life itself. Otherwise, what is the purpose?

 

[Disneyhead'71]

This Ebola thing could be bad for Orlando.

 

[RivieraJenn]

What's interesting is that this strain of Ebola instead of having the usual 90+% lethality and swift onset (2-3 days) which is why prior outbreaks died out, has instead a 50-60% lethality and slow onset up to 21 days, If one breaks out the tinfoil hats it almost seems someone was playing with a bio-weapon which got out of control.

Ooooorrrrr we could use Actual Science to understand this...

We know viruses are generally able to evolve quickly and concurrently, producing multiple strains. See, for instance, the flu and why the flu shot is different every year. Ebola already has multiple strains, with different strains causing various past outbreaks. We also know that a virus that kills its host within a matter of days is not terribly efficient--a dead host isn't going to spread the virus very far. We can reasonably infer that this is a more efficient strain of Ebola with a lower death rate and possibly a longer incubation period, all of which allow the virus to spread further and replicate more. This can easily be explained through natural genetic change, no tin-foil hats or secret bio-terrorism labs required. Several previous outbreaks have also had death rates closer to 50 percent--that 90 percent number is the top end and gets more press because it sounds scarier.

 

[ford91exploder]

Ooooorrrrr we could use Actual Science to understand this...

We know viruses are generally able to evolve quickly and concurrently, producing multiple strains. See, for instance, the flu and why the flu shot is different every year. Ebola already has multiple strains, with different strains causing various past outbreaks. We also know that a virus that kills its host within a matter of days is not terribly efficient--a dead host isn't going to spread the virus very far. We can reasonably infer that this is a more efficient strain of Ebola with a lower death rate and possibly a longer incubation period, all of which allow the virus to spread further. Several previous outbreaks have also had death rates closer to 50 percent--that 90 percent number is the top end and gets more press because it sounds scarier.

Some of us are very familiar with the science and even with the facilities used for researching the disease and Ebola Zaire the dominant strain in this outbreak usually does have a death rate of above 70%

A snippet for you from the WHO - all the known Ebola Zaire outbreaks

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

 

[Nubs70]

I think many or most of us would be glad to send them our Avatar land, especially if we can have something more interesting and thematically appropriate in its place. If only...



I think someone said this before, but it bears repeating. There are (so far) only a handful of Ebola cases or potential exposures. At the same time, thousands will die this year from the flu, a disease for which there is a vaccine available.

A point of perspective, while the number of Ebola cases is minute compared to H1N1, the mortality rate of H1N1 was .02% whereas Ebola is upwards of 70%.

Or to add a little sensation to the difference, Ebola is 3500% more lethal than H1N1.

 

[FigmentJedi]

2014 strikes again...

RIP Elizabeth Pena.
http://comicbook.com/2014/10/15/r-i-p-elizabeth-pe-a-the-incredibless-mirage-1961-2014/

 

[Cesar R M]

The horror, THE HORROR!!
http://hollywoodreporter.com/entry/view/id/747583?curator=MediaREDEF
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weird, your link is broken.
it just shows an empty page for me.


also, speaking of deadmau..

http://www.billboard.com/articles/b...-disney-trademark-battle-fantasia-anniversary

 

[RivieraJenn]

Some of us are very familiar with the science and even with the facilities used for researching the disease and Ebola Zaire the dominant strain in this outbreak usually does have a death rate of above 70%

A snippet for you from the WHO - all the known Ebola Zaire outbreaks

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

I'm certainly not calling into question your credentials--I have no idea who you are or what you do, although I do tend to enjoy many of your posts here. I also don't see anything in the WHO document inconsistent with what I said, though I admit I was not aware of the particular species causing the current outbreak. I just think 99.9 percent of tin-foil-hat theories are completely bogus, create unwarranted panic and are often detrimental to public health. The anti-vaccine movement is a prime example. (As a side note, many of the anti-vaxxers are, in fact, on the Ebola conspiracy theory bandwagon. It was developed...or simply made up, depending on who you ask...in order to poison us all with more dangerous vaccines, don't you know.)

 

[Cesar R M]

Ooooorrrrr we could use Actual Science to understand this...

We know viruses are generally able to evolve quickly and concurrently, producing multiple strains. See, for instance, the flu and why the flu shot is different every year. Ebola already has multiple strains, with different strains causing various past outbreaks. We also know that a virus that kills its host within a matter of days is not terribly efficient--a dead host isn't going to spread the virus very far. We can reasonably infer that this is a more efficient strain of Ebola with a lower death rate and possibly a longer incubation period, all of which allow the virus to spread further and replicate more. This can easily be explained through natural genetic change, no tin-foil hats or secret bio-terrorism labs required. Several previous outbreaks have also had death rates closer to 50 percent--that 90 percent number is the top end and gets more press because it sounds scarier.

The problem is, The flu as a very unstable RNA structure if I remember correctly.
So the rate of mutation is really high, causing variations/strains to spawn constantly.

Ebola was more stable, as it spreads slower and is usually contained in animals which are immune to it (Bats and some chimps?)

The flu can survive longer periods out of the bodies. Ebola not.
I wonder if this strain actually as higher durability or something.

 

[tirian]

And cost over $100 million. ... John Lasseter's vanity project within one. I still can't complain because I love Cars Land so much, but it does show how wasteful Disney can be when spending.

I recall walking around the back of DCA while it was under construction, looking up at the painted plywood flats behind Cadillac Range, and thinking, "Really? $100 million and they couldn't do something a little better than that?" Cars Land is beautiful but shouldn't have cost that much to build.

 

[BrianLo]

A point of perspective, while the number of Ebola cases is minute compared to H1N1, the mortality rate of H1N1 was .02% whereas Ebola is upwards of 70%.

Or to add a little sensation to the difference, Ebola is 3500% more lethal than H1N1.

Except there were approximately 22000000% more cases of H1N1 than Ebola in the US thus far, it's all relative. It's a terrible disease, primarily so in West Africa, but no one here is remotely at risk of contracting it. The only people who remotely need to be educated on the subject in North America is healthcare workers and even they will very, very, very likely never see a case of it in their lifetime.


I think this article nicely sums up my thoughts on the situation: http://mic.com/articles/100618/one-...tly-what-s-wrong-with-media-coverage-of-ebola

The "how does this effect me" attitude - in the general public - really saddens me. Everything from anti-vaccination propaganda to Ebola fears. At least the Ebola fears in this case don't really hurt anyone (except likely the economy knowing the United States ability to run on fear). I would not find it surprising if people change their vacation plans based on needless fear. It's not a topic I find enraging at least, just sad.

 

[StageFrenzy]

I'm from the Cleveland area, and I'm heading to Florida Friday. Be afraid; be very afraid.
Don't worry; I'm currently unafflicted by any communicable diseases and am sincerely hoping to keep it that way.

You put "chilli" on spaghetti, some may call that a sickness.

 

[TeriofTerror]

You put "chilli" on spaghetti, some may call that a sickness.

No, that's a Cincinnati thing - and it's an insult to good chili and good spaghetti.

 

[dhall]

I was wondering how Flash was. I'll get around to it. Currently enjoying Season 2 of Arrow, so Flash should be a logical next step.

SHIELD...gets better every week. Blacklist continues to amaze. Walking Dead is looking good.

Flash has the best start of any of the comic book shows, and its not even particularly close, but you probably want to get through season 2 of Arrow then watch Flash & Arrow in parallel. Shield is getting better, but still lags both.

Ironic that DC is as far ahead with it's TV properties as Marvel is with its movie universe.

 

[StageFrenzy]

No, that's a Cincinnati thing - and it's an insult to good chili and good spaghetti.

sorry got my midwestern centers of culture and beauty mixed up.

 

[Nubs70]

Except there were approximately 22000000% more cases of H1N1 than Ebola in the US thus far, it's all relative. It's a terrible disease, primarily so in West Africa, but no one here is remotely at risk of contracting it. The only people who remotely need to be educated on the subject in North America is healthcare workers and even they will very, very, very likely never see a case of it in their lifetime.


I think this article nicely sums up my thoughts on the situation: http://mic.com/articles/100618/one-...tly-what-s-wrong-with-media-coverage-of-ebola

The "how does this effect me" attitude - in the general public - really saddens me. Everything from anti-vaccination propaganda to Ebola fears. At least the Ebola fears in this case don't really hurt anyone (except likely the economy knowing the United States ability to run on fear). I would not find it surprising if people change their vacation plans based on needless fear. It's not a topic I find enraging at least, just sad.

Thought I covered the number of cases with the concept of "minute". If one classifies flu/Ebola under RPN conventions, the RPN for both are essentially zero thus they are equal. That is why the conduct of CDC and HHS are confusing. Why one virus is followed with intense public outreach and the other virus is followed with the Alfred E. Newman "What me worry?" approach is perplexing.

 

[ford91exploder]

I'm certainly not calling into question your credentials--I have no idea who you are or what you do, although I do tend to enjoy many of your posts here. I also don't see anything in the WHO document inconsistent with what I said, though I admit I was not aware of the particular species causing the current outbreak. I just think 99.9 percent of tin-foil-hat theories are completely bogus, create unwarranted panic and are often detrimental to public health. The anti-vaccine movement is a prime example. (As a side note, many of the anti-vaxxers are, in fact, on the Ebola conspiracy theory bandwagon. It was developed...or simply made up, depending on who you ask...in order to poison us all with more dangerous vaccines, don't you know.)

Simply an engineer who has had many 'interesting' assignments in their career, including building a BSL3 facility which is basically the same as a BSL4 except for the pathogens worked on within - yes there are some differences but they are more similar than different.

The problem is Ebola HAS been investigated a few times as a bio-weapon by both the US and the USSR and probably by the Chinese as well, The results scared everyone spitless. Interestingly enough the areas which are NOT signatories of the 1972 bioweapons treaty are currently affected by the outbreak.

Good infographic on the subject

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_Weapons_Convention#mediaviewer/File:BWC_Participation.svg

Inquiring minds go Hmm at interesting coincidences like these, Also recall that Bio-weapons have been called the 'poor mans atom bomb'.

Agree on the AntiVax'ers insanity and their penchant for tinfoil hat theories, As in why the US Govt has a patent on Ebola - the short answer is to prevent any commercial enterprise from restricting work on Ebola

 

[ford91exploder]

Thought I covered the number of cases with the concept of "minute". If one classifies flu/Ebola under RPN conventions, the RPN for both are essentially zero thus they are equal. That is why the conduct of CDC and HHS are confusing. Why one virus is followed with intense public outreach and the other virus is followed with the Alfred E. Newman "What me worry?" approach is perplexing.

Because the A.E. Newman bug threatens the viability of one of the political elite's cherished goals ie open borders and the cheap labor and votes resulting therefrom.

 

[dhall]

Never really been done on this scale before though without one of the properties being animated. If Flash becomes even an Arrow-sized hit, I could see it causing confusion, probably hurting the movie. And the new movie is inevitably going to be compared to the show. Wouldn't be shocked if the show ends up getting pulled early, after a season or two, which is a shame.

I'm almost willing to bet that they explicitly invoke the multiverse, in-story. Flash was the first character to move between dimensions in the books, so it wouldn't be shocking to have him cross over into an unshared universe at some point.

 

[GymLeaderPhil]

Re: CM's & FP+

Oh, I forgot to mention! You can only use the website, not the app. That's not ready yet.

Website is always the best way to do anything with My Disney Experience since it's more frequently updated. It's more to do with the time it takes to get approval from Apple (and possibly Android) for any updates to applications.