DocMcHulk
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he's more than happy to help you picture them. In all of their scantily clad and gory glory.
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Taylor
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This is Disney marketing we are talking about. There team haven't been "top notch" the past few years.OK, I admit it, I don't have time to spend here tonight because ... Because ... Well, I'm plotting. Yes, plotting. I never forget a friend and I never forget an enemy and oh, am I plotting ...
That said, I FINALLY just saw the WDW Mine Train commercial and OMG as the kewl kiddies would say that is some godawful stuff. Heigh-ho as a rap song. What looks like a 12-year-old checking out an older woman. Everyone wearing shades.
Is this Disney again forgetting what it is and trying to be hip? Doesn't anyone at the company realize that whenever Disney tries to be hip that it fails miserably? Honestly, whoever approved that spot should be fired.
But I got plotting to do ... Heigh-ho, heigh-ho ...
alphac2005
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I'll pass. Thanks for the laugh, though!
Goofyernmost
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They tried to get Walt for this one, but they forgot to take him out of the freezer in time to shoot the ad.
That is why all this criticism about the new commercial is just a bunch of garbage. Everyone is different and sees things differently. For example, that ad generated for Japan is so far away from any realistic Disney image that it would be laughable if it wasn't such a depressing ad. The majority is telling a story about a woman that married an ice cube. She longed for the closeness and warmth that according to the film, never existed. Then all of a sudden he see fireworks and is cured and they all live happily ever after. Really? That somehow is believable, but someone using sunglasses and looking like they are about to have some fun, in the present, isn't?
I am old and I do not really make any effort to keep up with what is cool or what is current, but, I did have the occasion to witness a wedding this past weekend. I watched as the wedding party (very large, btw, with 28 in the party) were having pictures taken. The photographer had to keep telling members to take off their sunglasses for the pictures. It was a sunny day, but, the pictures were being taken in a beautifully shaded area. No direct sunlight. As they left the church after the ceremony, it was like watching a synchronized swim meet. They came out, again in a shaded area, at 7:45 in the evening, and as they cleared the door, the sunglasses were put on immediately.
If the intent of the ad was to get the message across that it would be cool and fun to go on the Mine Train as a family, well it worked, like it or not. That is the message that I saw. If the intent was that it was not just a kiddie coaster, that message got there as well. So, then one has to ask, what was it supposed to be? It was promoting a specific attraction, not the general park and the multitude of emotions that they might be able to play off of, if that were the case. There is a time and a use for heart tugging ads, which, btw, are far more exploitative then this ad, this was not one of those times.
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ChrisFL
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Odd, that isn't what I got from the ad at all. It was a way for them to re-discover their youth, and what it felt like when they were first dating. DisneySea is more of a young couple's park than a pre-school park like WDW these days, much different crowd.
asianway
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Goofyernmost
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Well, as I said, everyone see's things differently. What I saw by her facial expressions was that nothing had changed from those dating days, he was cold then and was still the same now. Then all of a sudden, while watching the show, all that never was suddenly became real. If you find a place in that ad that showed anything but a lack of warmth except the actual Wedding Day section let me know.
John
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Incredible....notice the attire, also interesting was the fact that few children were scene. Appealing to a totally different demo then WDW. Amazing this is somehow connected to an American park. Just amazing. Although this particular ad would never fly here in the states. The wife at times seems to be walking ever so slightly admiring her husband/boyfriend. I think woman might have a problem with that portrayal here. The message is the same in the American parks though. To leave your world behind and find your inner youth. Your spirit. I think for the more conservative and reserved Japanese culture this was a perfect ad. Pure quality.
dhall
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You may very well be right about having an aggressive filter. My recollection is that there were people who insisted that it was short-term only, no matter how many times posters with fairly obvious technical backgrounds tried to correct them. It was also clear all along that there were medium to long range capabilities.Probably people I have on ignore for demonstrating that level of stupidity prior. I don't usually count people who are blatantly wrong and refuse to accept reality.
There will always be people who are below the line and are so far off base. You can't fix 'em and you can't let their existence rub you because they will always be out there to some degree so it's best to just move on and not look back
The band has two tags - one short range, one long range, and the radio transmitter. It is known
Spirited Late Tuesday Musings:
Just in case I wasn't clear earlier on the TEA numbers thread, I don't believe many of the numbers given. Understand this before you jump on my , but many folks in the industry agree with me annually. It isn't just the Disney numbers that may be a bit off, those are just the big glaring variety.
There is no way on earth anyone will convince me that MK outdraws TDL unless I am standing there watching them count one by one. I also think MK benefits from everything from comps to second admits counting via hard ticket parties (BTW, Halloween Party on Labor Day? Way to keep it classy, Georgie.)
Then there is the dicey subject of numbers for TPFKaTD-MGMS and DAK. Simple knowledge of capacity makes 10 million in guests an impossibility without dozens of capacity closures. Why doesn't someone point out to me how many days in 2013 that those parks closed for capacity (or even came close)?
Look, I can give Disney the benefit of the doubt and say a huge amount of people are at the Studios first thing in the morning to ride that overrated TSMM ... But I can't believe that pace continues throughout day when those early birds realize there is nothing to do at the park and leave before noon. Those numbers are about as accurate as the tax returns of the wealthy!
Tom Cruise ...you don't impress me much.
Want to make it clear (why do I always have to do this and people still misquote me?) that I did not say that Pandora's Grand Boat Cruise has been canned by Disney. I have heard much chatter about it not being ready for opening day and people jumping to conclusions. My take on this, based upon Disney's recent five-year plan for New Fantasyland and the news that RoL would debut a year ahead of Pandora, is that Disney is likely going to go with a protracted (dragged out) multiple opening instead of one big one. No, I don't know this for a fact, but call it a very educated guess.
Those Disney Bloggers/Lifestylers/Podcasters really hate each other, don't they? Yep, just like Uncle Walt would have wanted.
BTW, D23 apparently had another 'hang with the whores' meet-greet-and-who-would-want-to-grope-them' tonight at TSFKaDD ...what did the kids get for attending? An autographed picture of Scary Steven dressed as Clara Cluck?
I know we have a thread and I know it goes without saying, but Disney isn't putting a park in Dubai. You fanbois should be very happy about that because you wouldn't last a night in a UAE prison.
One other way DL is better than the MK: it doesn't feel like every surface you touch is sticky and dirty.
Did I miss Monday's at Moe's ...maybe just a little.
Oh, and thanks again to everyone participating in this thread. We reached over 100,000 views in six days time ...that's social media power. I don't think Gary Buchanan will give me a free quick serve meal for it, but much like with Al Lutz, it doesn't matter. I sometimes wonder how much attention I could get if I actually tried.
Just in case I wasn't clear earlier on the TEA numbers thread, I don't believe many of the numbers given. Understand this before you jump on my , but many folks in the industry agree with me annually. It isn't just the Disney numbers that may be a bit off, those are just the big glaring variety.
There is no way on earth anyone will convince me that MK outdraws TDL unless I am standing there watching them count one by one. I also think MK benefits from everything from comps to second admits counting via hard ticket parties (BTW, Halloween Party on Labor Day? Way to keep it classy, Georgie.)
Then there is the dicey subject of numbers for TPFKaTD-MGMS and DAK. Simple knowledge of capacity makes 10 million in guests an impossibility without dozens of capacity closures. Why doesn't someone point out to me how many days in 2013 that those parks closed for capacity (or even came close)?
Look, I can give Disney the benefit of the doubt and say a huge amount of people are at the Studios first thing in the morning to ride that overrated TSMM ... But I can't believe that pace continues throughout day when those early birds realize there is nothing to do at the park and leave before noon. Those numbers are about as accurate as the tax returns of the wealthy!
Tom Cruise ...you don't impress me much.
Want to make it clear (why do I always have to do this and people still misquote me?) that I did not say that Pandora's Grand Boat Cruise has been canned by Disney. I have heard much chatter about it not being ready for opening day and people jumping to conclusions. My take on this, based upon Disney's recent five-year plan for New Fantasyland and the news that RoL would debut a year ahead of Pandora, is that Disney is likely going to go with a protracted (dragged out) multiple opening instead of one big one. No, I don't know this for a fact, but call it a very educated guess.
Those Disney Bloggers/Lifestylers/Podcasters really hate each other, don't they? Yep, just like Uncle Walt would have wanted.
BTW, D23 apparently had another 'hang with the whores' meet-greet-and-who-would-want-to-grope-them' tonight at TSFKaDD ...what did the kids get for attending? An autographed picture of Scary Steven dressed as Clara Cluck?
I know we have a thread and I know it goes without saying, but Disney isn't putting a park in Dubai. You fanbois should be very happy about that because you wouldn't last a night in a UAE prison.
One other way DL is better than the MK: it doesn't feel like every surface you touch is sticky and dirty.
Did I miss Monday's at Moe's ...maybe just a little.
Oh, and thanks again to everyone participating in this thread. We reached over 100,000 views in six days time ...that's social media power. I don't think Gary Buchanan will give me a free quick serve meal for it, but much like with Al Lutz, it doesn't matter. I sometimes wonder how much attention I could get if I actually tried.
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bhg469
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I've said on several of your threads that attendance is my business. I make my living providing clients with accurate numbers and you're totally correct. No one tells the truth unless it's an actual sellout and that's mostly just sporting events. I can tell you the attendance numbers of many events taking place right now. I can say without a doubts, fairs, festivals and the parks round up, a lot.
I really have no desire to defend him. That crowd is not one I think much of.
I'll even state I think BRAND advocates like Ricky and his ilk are part of the reason (PART) why WDW is so damn stale.
BUT ... I've built my online rep by being (or trying to be) fair. I think the Ricky deal was like 7-8 Lifestylers trapping him in the Tangled toilets after hours and beating the snot out of him. The penalty (comparing him to a rapist in some quarters) was not at all in proportion with the crime.
P.S. Yes, I feel dirty for defending the guy but right is right.
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There is a rush to push Frozen down our collective throats and that's why I believe you will see work on that begin as soon as October.
Sorry Soarin (that is the state it is in) is one of the most popular attractions in O-Town. There is no pressure on Disney to do a damn thing (even keep the queue clean) ...btw, at DLR, they still have custodial CMs patrolling queues during park hours to pick up trash.
WDW used to do that ...maybe 15-20 years ago.
EDIT: I have a weird feeling that something is missing, yet I can't recall for the life of me what it was ... must not have been important.
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ThemeParkJunkee
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Thank you Mr. Spirit. I have been wondering whether it is worth it to "do the math". Now it is a project for me. Every time these figures are published it is with the caveat that WDW does not share their numbers and they are estimates. Doesn't anyone read the footnotes?
Funmeister
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@WDW1974 - Any opinion about the news going around that Sony is partnering with Marvel to give the screws to Fox? From what I see Fox was not allowed to produce any toys for X-Men missing out on huge profits from movie tie-ins. Rumor has it Spider Man will/could make an appearance in the next Avengers as a way to play nice so they are not blacklisted like Fox. Your thoughts? Sorry for taking the thread in a different direction.
You get a "like" just for the made-up word!
and you get a like for liking it ...
bhg469
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From what I heard, the spiderman tie in will not happen because the avengers stuff is all planned out carefully for the next decade.