The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

[Cosmic Commando]

@WDW1974 Speaking of DLR infrastructure and a "plan"... are they finally going to do something substantive with the resort infrastructure? New parking structure?

 

[asianway]

Star Wars makes more sense in Disneyland's TL that place has been in desperate need of a revamp for decades. They can give Nemo Subs to Fantasyland and just kinda loosely incorporate the Monorail and Space Mountain and demo everything else.

Especially Buzz. Kill it with extreme prejudice.

 

[Rteetz]

whats the size in terms of acres for Diagon Alley and Pandora?

I believe Pandora is similar in size to what Carsland is if that helps. There were some comparison pictures a while back.

 

[Mike S]

They can open up nine acres at the back of the park without breaking a sweat (if we're counting losing Toontown as "not breaking a sweat")... almost 12.5 if they can build a new horse stable off-site somewhere. Cars Land is 12 acres.

Like I said earlier we can only hope they use more space than just Toontown. Star Wars Land deserves to be amazing. If it's not done to or exceeding the level of Harry Potter than it would be very disappointing.

 

[Rteetz]

So you're saying he reads these boards.

Seriously, I see like one or two things at most on that list that haven't been discussed here at great length.

Thats what I got out of it basically. It also seemed his partner Len Testa also reads these boards because he knew everything Jim was talking about.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Thats what I got out of it basically. It also seemed his partner Len Testa also reads these boards because he knew everything Jim was talking about.

@lentesta is a member here.

 

[GoofGoof]

whats the size in terms of acres for Diagon Alley and Pandora?

DL Toontown, as it stands is 3.3 acres.

Purely for comparison, Diagon in Orlando is nearly 8. Carsland is just over 11.

Not sure about Pandora.

 

[stlphil]

Nobody rides that thing; it's too crowded!

Glad you picked up on my somewhat obtuse Yogi'ism!

 

[Captain Neo]

edit: nm

 

[AEfx]

As much as I want to see new/more animal exhibits at DAK, I don't see any being the draw of a top shelf ride or three.

That's always been the problem. 1/2 zoo + 1/2 theme park != 1 Full Disney Theme Park.

The zoo stuff just isn't that good - there are regional zoos all over the country that do better. Even the Safari - "hey guys take a look at that as we zoom past as quickly as possible so the trucks behind us don't get backed up and we can get you folks on and off this as soon as possible so we can get you back where you know you want to be, shopping in a nice air conditioned store!".

Yes, the whole place is pretty - and the animals in prettier evironments, but when it comes to animal viewing and interaction, they simply are not impressive enough to draw folks in. Sure, some folks love it - but I don't think most guests who come to WDW are coming there for the limited animal viewing - they are coming to go to theme parks - if they want better animal experiences, chances are they live within one that's a day trip not a week-long vacation.

We have all this MM+ stuff to blame because it Disney didn't figure this out before they went ahead with it. To them, how could a Disney theme park itself be the problem? (Remember, this was pre-DCA.) So they assumed the "market was saturated" - and stopped investing in the parks, instead just trying to figure out how to squeeze even more out of the existing guests.

This beget the practices like feeding the addictions of the most..ardent supporters who are willing to pay hundreds of dollars to attend a "merchandise event" and then spend another thousand in there, etc. Let the mommies and the bloggers promote the place for you (yes, you can buy good publicity, cheaply even - it just takes some free theme park tickets, some cupcakes, and a room they weren't renting out that night any way. Finally, make the wet dream of an efficiency expert - MM+ ("Hey, to heck with this trying to predict guest flow stuff...let's just tell everyone where they can go when! We'll twist it into a "service" we are doing for them? I see bracelets, boys...I see lots and lots of plastic bracelets, with optional doo-dad add-ons we can sell separately. They will be paying us for the privilege! Duffy, eat your heart out!").

 

[AEfx]

Like the Matterhorn, you can say the Subs belong to whichever land you want... doesn't change their visibility in Tomorrowland.

Yousa give missa bombad dreams thinkin about da implications of attraction with sucha elastic possibility for re-themez.

 

[Nland316]

Things can be moved, relocated (not talking attractions here, sorry RR fans) etc. This ties into a comprehensive expansion and infrastructure plan for the resort.

Roger Rabbit still pulls in significant wait times on a daily basis. It always hovers around the 30-45 minute wait limit. Compared to the other Fantasyland dark rides it could still be deemed "popular", I mean after all Pinocchio, Mr. Toad, and Snow White rarely make it past 15 minutes. I don't see them doing away with the ride entirely. It would fit perfectly in Hollywoodland.

 

[TalkingHead]

Roger Rabbit still pulls in significant wait times on a daily basis. It always hovers around the 30-45 minute wait limit. Compared to the other Fantasyland dark rides it could still be deemed "popular", I mean after all Pinocchio, Mr. Toad, and Snow White rarely make it past 15 minutes. I don't see them doing away with the ride entirely.

Because you find it more likely that they'd spend the money to move a ride based on a semi-obscure 1980s character who isn't part of a franchise, doesn't move merchandise, and isn't outright owned by Disney.

Does that sound like the kind of thing Bob would brag about on an earnings call?

Why does anyone think Roger Rabbit is going to be relocated? It's a small miracle the ride exists at all.

 

[MarkTwain]

Roger Rabbit still pulls in significant wait times on a daily basis. It always hovers around the 30-45 minute wait limit. Compared to the other Fantasyland dark rides it could still be deemed "popular", I mean after all Pinocchio, Mr. Toad, and Snow White rarely make it past 15 minutes. I don't see them doing away with the ride entirely. It would fit perfectly in Hollywoodland.

This is 100% true. Hell, it's one of the few "small rides" at the DLR to offer Fastpass. It's quite popular and could easily be relocated to Hollywoodland.

Because you find it more likely that they'd spend the money to move a ride based on a semi-obscure 1980s character who isn't part of a franchise, doesn't move merchandise, and isn't outright owned by Disney.

Does that sound like the kind of thing Bob would brag about on an earnings call?

Why does anyone think Roger Rabbit is going to be relocated? It's a small miracle the ride exists at all.

...and this is 100% true as well, and shows how much regard Disney has for its own classic attractions.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I wonder if Disney had the institutional memory and foresight to go ahead and lock in Harrison Ford for theme park attractions when they got him to sign on to Star Wars Episode VII. They sure as hell wouldn't want him pulling out at the last minute like he did with the Indiana Jones Adventure.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Roger Rabbit still pulls in significant wait times on a daily basis. It always hovers around the 30-45 minute wait limit. Compared to the other Fantasyland dark rides it could still be deemed "popular", I mean after all Pinocchio, Mr. Toad, and Snow White rarely make it past 15 minutes. I don't see them doing away with the ride entirely. It would fit perfectly in Hollywoodland.

Pinocchio and Snow, maybe, but Toad is always crowded. It's rare to see a short line at Toad.

 

[Cesar R M]

The rumor is that it will have a large '74 painted on the side.

I can imagine the photo of Spirit's face in the front.. and in the back of the ship... A Walt disney figure punching Iger and Rasulo.

 

[Cesar R M]

Earnings don't always equate to attendance for definite numbers. Especially for a topic like this. Anyway, Q4 would be more interesting for July and August.

But no ones exactly going to come out and say one way or another.

Agree, specially if we take into consideration that there were price increases recently on all sides.

 

[Cesar R M]

Yes, the next two DCL ships will be the Spirit and the Imagination. Really!!!

Is that true that the new ships will be smaller than the DREAM class but bigger than the MAGIC class?

 

[Cesar R M]

My point is that the Toontown plot really doesn't look big enough to hold a sizable Star Wars E Ticket that I'm sure we all want. DHS on the other looks like it has plenty of room around Echo Lake like the Indy space. Why can't that space be fully utilized to give us a huge ride even if Disneyland doesn't have the space to clone it? Give us something unique on the scale of RSR.

unless they go purely vertical?