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flynnibus

flynnibus

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NearTheEars said:
Also playing devil's advocate:
If WDW did something similar to splitting HP up to two parks with the express in the middle this board would explode with posts about them being money grabbing thieves! Not patting them on the back for a great business decision.
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Not for the people that can differentiate between strategic choices that can be justified vs just reducing options and then charging for them... or replacing growth with price increases.

But some will do as you have done.. which is treat any price issue as if all were exactly the same thing. Rock on
 
NearTheEars

NearTheEars

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flynnibus said:
Not for the people that can differentiate between strategic choices that can be justified vs just reducing options and then charging for them... or replacing growth with price increases.

But some will do as you have done.. which is treat any price issue as if all were exactly the same thing. Rock on
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Just pointing out what would happen. There would be an outcry. But there's a big difference here between the critics that back up their displeasure with facts and those who chime in with snarky complaints in an attempt to gain some street cred with the "it" crowd.

Same goes for the "pro" disney crowd, though. And I constantly want to slam my head against the wall when one comes in trolling trying to discredit everything UNI does. They make it way harder for those of us actually enjoying 2014 WDW to even be taken a little seriously.
 
John

John

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When it comes to seat size and fitting a "larger" American.....where does it end? I mean at what point does a person size dictate weather they can comfortably or safely ride an attraction? No matter what size they make the seats there will be someone who will not be able to fit. There are height restrictions on rides....why shouldn't there be weight restrictions as well?
 
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dadddio

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John said:
When it comes to seat size and fitting a "larger" American.....where does it end? I mean at what point does a person size dictate weather they can comfortably or safely ride an attraction? No matter what size they make the seats there will be someone who will not be able to fit. There are height restrictions on rides....why shouldn't there be weight restrictions as well?
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The easy answer is that a company has to market itself to it's customers. If a significant portion of the customer base cannot ride the company's rides, the company risks losing those customers to a competitor who will accomodate them.

<Amused that your avatar is a pepperoni pizza>
 
sshindel

sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
John said:
When it comes to seat size and fitting a "larger" American.....where does it end? I mean at what point does a person size dictate weather they can comfortably or safely ride an attraction? No matter what size they make the seats there will be someone who will not be able to fit. There are height restrictions on rides....why shouldn't there be weight restrictions as well?
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This is my thought as well.

(The rest is not directed at you @John )
I'm in no means trying to be against overweight people at all. I realize my original post might have come off as such, "obese lobby" in particular. I have nothing against overweight people in general, ECVs, and the work Disney tries to do to accommodate as many as they can. Hell, I could stand to lose a good 30 lbs or so myself.
But how much is enough? Should it be 2" wider? 4"? 12"? How far into the future should they extrapolate the average size of Americans to future proof it?
What if the swinging movement provided problems with a wider car?

I'm of course doing the typical internet thing here of running my proverbial mouth without actually having experienced the ride myself, so who knows, maybe when I ride it I'll complain myself as well. I've certainly been known to stick my foot in my mouth from time to time.
 
ABQ

ABQ

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sshindel said:
I'm in no means trying to be against overweight people at all. I realize my original post might have come off as such, "obese lobby" in particular. I have nothing against overweight people in general, ECVs, and the work Disney tries to do to accommodate as many as they can. Hell, I could stand to lose a good 30 lbs or so myself.
But how much is enough? Should it be 2" wider? 4"? 12"? How far into the future should they extrapolate the average size of Americans to future proof it?
What if the swinging movement provided problems with a wider car?

I'm of course doing the typical internet thing here of running my proverbial mouth without actually having experienced the ride myself, so who knows, maybe when I ride it I'll complain myself as well. I've certainly been known to stick my foot in my mouth from time to time.
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Good points, and everything in ride building is a compromise, right? The ride is supposed to be family friendly, some even term it a kiddie coaster. If that's true, then sizing it for kiddies, of at least a certain height, makes sense. If that's who Disney wanted to please, with a ride smack in the center of Fantasyland, I'm fine with it.
Heck, look how small the Matterhorn sleds used to be. Don't see many morbidly obese fitting into those.
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Not all that different than old Space Mountain ride cars, I think.
 

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