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Stitchon

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A little nugget that might have some bearing on Disney Springs and the tenants it could attract: The Florida Mall is losing Nordstrom, less than a year after losing Saks Fifth Avenue. Will Disney Springs create an environment that's conductive to upscale retailing ala Mall at Millenia? Or will it falter and settle for mid-tier and tourist-oriented brands that don't live up to that "vision board" we all saw?
 

Mike S

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They are also extremely low budget in creating their films and stated they will never spend 100 million to produce a film so for a bunch of low budget films the fact they all made at least twice what it cost to be made, I call it a success. They also don't have trained animated movie directors directing these films but relative newcomers.
Maybe Despicable Me 2 should've had a bigger budget then. Also I don't buy the directors being newcomers excuse. Some of Pixar's best movies were made by first time directors. Toy Story, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo. All directed by first timers.
 

Quinnmac000

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Maybe Despicable Me 2 should've had a bigger budget then. Also I don't buy the directors being newcomers excuse. Some of Pixar's best movies were made by first time directors. Toy Story, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo. All directed by first timers.
However it was being directed by a long time animator aka Jon Lasseter who had been with Disney since 101 Dalmatians while Despicable Me was directed by a comic book artist who just got into animation 2 years prior. Two completely different playing fields. One guy who got trained by the best and another who didn't even work as an animator. Monster's Inc Director Peter Docter worked with Jon Lasseter on all of the films before Monster's Inc came out so he got trained up. They are in a extremely different ballgame in experience level and knowledge base.
 

Tigger1988

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However it was being directed by a long time animator aka Jon Lasseter who had been with Disney since 101 Dalmatians while Despicable Me was directed by a comic book artist who just got into animation 2 years prior. Two completely different playing fields. One guy who got trained by the best and another who didn't even work as an animator. Monster's Inc Director Peter Docter worked with Jon Lasseter on all of the films before Monster's Inc came out so he got trained up. They are in a extremely different ballgame in experience level and knowledge base.
Lasseter joined WDA when he was 4 years old?
 

the.dreamfinder

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A little nugget that might have some bearing on Disney Springs and the tenants it could attract: The Florida Mall is losing Nordstrom, less than a year after losing Saks Fifth Avenue. Will Disney Springs create an environment that's conductive to upscale retailing ala Mall at Millenia? Or will it falter and settle for mid-tier and tourist-oriented brands that don't live up to that "vision board" we all saw?
I believe the Spirit has said in the past that they want the crowd the Mall at Millenia attracts, upper middle class international tourists, and having Nordstom in addition to Apple on board would certainly help them. I wonder if they'll offer room delivery for those staying on property?
 

Cody5242

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Before I forget, I rode Gringotts today for the first time with only a 50 min wait (Single Rider). At first I didn't if I liked it better than FJ but after thinking about it for a few hours I definitely think I like a Gringotts more. It's a very high tech ride that comes with the perfect theme park land. Universal has a winner on their hands. I just wish the Hogwarts Express lived up to the hype. After riding it twice back and forth, I already feel like I don't need to ride it for a while
 

Mike S

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However it was being directed by a long time animator aka Jon Lasseter who had been with Disney since 101 Dalmatians while Despicable Me was directed by a comic book artist who just got into animation 2 years prior. Two completely different playing fields. One guy who got trained by the best and another who didn't even work as an animator. Monster's Inc Director Peter Docter worked with Jon Lasseter on all of the films before Monster's Inc came out so he got trained up. They are in a extremely different ballgame in experience level and knowledge base.
Lasseter's first work with Disney was actually an uncredited animator on Fox and the Hound. I'll agree with the rest, it seems amazing Despicable Me was the success that it was with them being so new to animation. Despicable Me 2 could've been better though, MUCH better.
 

Cosmic Commando

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Do you think the current use of GotG characters might be a trial balloon of sorts? I get the feeling that even the parties involved aren't 100% sure what the exact parameters are, and could continue to be a grey area until one side feels pushed too far and a lawsuit ensues.
I think the entire greenlighting of the movie was a trial balloon. The general reaction, even among fans, was a big "huh?"when they announced GotG. I am looking forward to it, but it certainly wasn't a movie that was begging to be made. It really came out of left field.
 

Cesar R M

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Some of he costumes that Universal use for their Marvel characters are just hideous. Especially the Spiderman costume compared to the one being used at Disneyland Paris
We are talking about M&G characters right?
I was merely talking about the attractions... never seen the costumes myself o_O

As for the pictures I seen on google; they(the suit of spiderman) really look like the ancient version of the 90's and 80's.
 

homerdance

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Swolphin rooms are normally around $179/night and those hotels compare with any deluxe room Disney offers with walking to both Epcot and DHS.
To provide the opposing view, we stayed at the Swan a couple years ago (and are staying at the Dolphin next trip), and had a great experience. Staff was friendly, we got a free upgrade to a balcony room, and had no problems with our room. As for "hidden fees" there is a $20 a night resort fee but they make it very clear that you have to pay when you book. We didn't get hit with any other fees. Thing I like best about these hotels is the location. These are the least expensive hotels you will find on property that are walking distance to a park. I also really like the great selection of restaurants in the hotels.
The $20 resort fee is a hidden fee, they may show it when you book but not when you are initially comparing prices. This is the new business model, advertise low rates but trick folks into paying more with fees. It is what airlines tried to do and what cell phone companies do all the time. But as long as you think you got a good deal, happy for you.
 

Cesar R M

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To me they're a one trick pony who's only good movie was the first Despicable Me. When I saw #2 I was utterly disappointed. It was one the worst movies I had to sit through that I was at first very excited to see. I can't personally speak for the quality of Hop or Lorax as I haven't seen them but from what I've read they don't seem any different. Just putting my opinion out there.
Lorax was ok.
HOP felt a lot like PLANES( just for little kids), the acting was atrocious (of the male lead).

I think #2 of Despicable me was very good. Still good jokes.. but they still overused a lot of the old styled jokes (the minions).
Didn't @Lee say he was going to be back tonight to drop some knowledge on us?
Ahem, Spirit already posted a few pages ago.
 
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