The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

Mike S

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This is why I think universal needs to do a dark ride there that can appeal to the masses. Let's face it, FJ is pretty rough for those who are prone to motion sickness, Gringotts is reported to be slightly more tame but that could still be bad for a lot of people. A haunted mansion type ride exosting in that world could be epic, and I never use that word.
A ride through the Forbidden Forest, perhaps? ;)
 

WDW1974

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With this week, maybe they'll be able to sell themselves more as a destination. Have to wait and see.

They won't. Take it to the bank. And it's a damn shame.

I still recall the late 1980s and all the talk of TV and Film production coming with the openings of Disney-MGM and Universal Studios. We really, some of us anyway, thought Florida could be the LA/Hollywood of the east. But so many things conspired against that, not all the fault of the Studios (although they certainly deserve some of the blame!)
 

WDW1974

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But yet they're 'sold out' much of the time. Alright, sure. o_O

Well, see there's a game afoot. If you take say 430 rooms out of inventory at say CBR or ASMu for 'rehabs' or any excuse you can think of and then sell the remainder of the rooms, well, you can say you are sold out.

It is based on inventory that is made available for booking, which is totally different than rooms/capacity.
 

WDW1974

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Damn right it's my definition. And quite honestly, I don't care what the mugs used to be. I know every detail of the old mug program. They did offer lifetime mugs. But even then, I always found it stupid that you couldn't get them filled in the park. I believe that today, you should be able to purchase a mug that is very much like the one at the water parks, valid at refill stations all day in the parks. The RapidFill system (as much as I hate it) has a benefit of being able to be rolled out anywhere and all the systems could be linked together. The only reason they aren't good everywhere is because of the insane way Disney manages revenue streams. F&B in the parks is different than the resorts which is different than the water parks.

Mr. Alien Kitty Claws, I admire the passion in which you discuss soda and refillable mugs. Passion is a very important trait in my family and I always respect those with it, especially when it is not misplaced!
 

bhg469

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Well, see there's a game afoot. If you take say 430 rooms out of inventory at say CBR or ASMu for 'rehabs' or any excuse you can think of and then sell the remainder of the rooms, well, you can say you are sold out.

It is based on inventory that is made available for booking, which is totally different than rooms/capacity.
Just like the Jaguars do to "sell out" their stadium, they remove and or cover up huge sections of seats because they cannot sell out if their lives depend on it.

As far as cbr, they should rehab that place with fire and lots of it.
 

WDW1974

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with regards to your saying that Gringotts has some issues..

do you expect it to be fully operational july 8th?

I don't want to be an here (hey @jakeman, how's it hanging, buddy!) but how can I say?

Based on what I am hearing, I wouldn't make a trip there unless I lived in O-Town ... hell, even then I don't think visiting on the opening day of anything at a theme park is smart. Too many people. Too much that can go wrong. I expect it to be fully operational by sometime after July 8th.
 

WDW1974

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I don't think Cars Land has sustained the interest, allure and excitement of the Wizarding World of Harry Potter - Hogsmeade.

It has with me. I truly just am in love with both environments. They both remind me of TDS, just on a much smaller scale. They are the top product in the USA today. ... And judging by the crowds I saw in May, not exactly peak season in Anaheim, the crowds still love that product too.

And how much did Disney pay to have the Hecks visit Walt Disney World and learn about MagicBands that go "boing?"

Yeah, I missed that episode while on my Faux Top One Percent Spirited Spring Holiday on the Seas and at DLR. But I heard it described as 'awkward' ... how the hell does that happen? BTW, I think The Middle is generally quite well done even if I think Patricia Heaton is a nut in the real world.
 

WDW1974

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He runs attractions mag. Pretty even, rather balanced in coverage.

I can't keep track of these folks without a whiteboard and pics ... if he runs Attractions, who are the Rosebooms and how do they fit in?

And any Disney-specific Lifestylers get credentialed for this?
 

bhg469

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No. I want you or someone else who claims to have a functioning cerebral cortex, an IQ above room temp in Alaska (even in summer) and common sense to come here and attempt to justify that price.
Well its slightly better than the overpriced moderates so there!
 

articos

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They won't. Take it to the bank. And it's a damn shame.

I still recall the late 1980s and all the talk of TV and Film production coming with the openings of Disney-MGM and Universal Studios. We really, some of us anyway, thought Florida could be the LA/Hollywood of the east. But so many things conspired against that, not all the fault of the Studios (although they certainly deserve some of the blame!)
Unfortunately, you're probably going to be right. Yep, I remember Hollywood East all too well. And then a decade later, all of the people charged originally with making that happen were laid off, mostly when it was clear it wasn't going to happen. Final nail in the coffin, really. Sadly, originally, the studio was run by LA, who couldn't have given a rat's @ss about FL, while the parks were run by Tom W. Tom had nothing to do with the studio side, and realized the parks made more money than the studio, and his ops team knew that too. So they did what they wanted, and the studio was marginalized.
 

lazyboy97o

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It has with me. I truly just am in love with both environments. They both remind me of TDS, just on a much smaller scale. They are the top product in the USA today. ... And judging by the crowds I saw in May, not exactly peak season in Anaheim, the crowds still love that product too.
It may well just be too far back for me to properly recall, but I just don't recall having a desire to explore and revisit. Part of my present cynicism may well be my views of the greater situation. I think it was approved for bad reasons that its success has reinforced. I also think it was an anomaly and something on such a scale is not to be seen in the US for some time again.

IYeah, I missed that episode while on my Faux Top One Percent Spirited Spring Holiday on the Seas and at DLR. But I heard it described as 'awkward' ... how the hell does that happen? BTW, I think The Middle is generally quite well done even if I think Patricia Heaton is a nut in the real world.
It was very odd if you know anything about today's Walt Disney World and how it wasn't just creative license but an outright lie. It just seemed too forced to make the point that Walt Disney World is still the world's leader of customer service.
 

WDW1974

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Vaughn?!?!?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.......no.:rolleyes:

It's OK. You are among friends. Nothing here to be embarrassed about. We all have unusual dreams from time to time. I know a fanboi who dreamed he was having um ... yeah ... ahm ... relations with the Orange Bird. When he woke up, there was a very messy situation and a lifesize blowup of Scary Steven Miller dressed as the OB for a Parks Blog meet up. This stuff is in-SANE.

I think you meant to say Merf. Or, wait...it was Staggs that got his motor running.

Oh yeah, the Mefster had(has?) a thing for Staggs. I don't get that one. But I also heard that the dead Card Walker guy on Twitter has a serious thing for Jay Rasulo. Like I said, it takes all kinds ...

Hope you are feeling better!!!
 

WDW1974

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This is why I think universal needs to do a dark ride there that can appeal to the masses. Let's face it, FJ is pretty rough for those who are prone to motion sickness, Gringotts is reported to be slightly more tame but that could still be bad for a lot of people. A haunted mansion type ride exosting in that world could be epic, and I never use that word.

The UNI fanboi in me is still waiting (I have been since the 90s) for a dark ride based on their classic monster films ... this is such a no-brainer and I'd much rather this than Kong The Second.
 

articos

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Well, see there's a game afoot. If you take say 430 rooms out of inventory at say CBR or ASMu for 'rehabs' or any excuse you can think of and then sell the remainder of the rooms, well, you can say you are sold out.

It is based on inventory that is made available for booking, which is totally different than rooms/capacity.
Sadly, yes. It's crazy. Artificially keeping room prices high for no reason.
 

StageFrenzy

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They won't. Take it to the bank. And it's a damn shame.

I still recall the late 1980s and all the talk of TV and Film production coming with the openings of Disney-MGM and Universal Studios. We really, some of us anyway, thought Florida could be the LA/Hollywood of the east. But so many things conspired against that, not all the fault of the Studios (although they certainly deserve some of the blame!)
Hey we got Brittany, Christina, Melissa Joan Hart and like 10 boy bands out of it. Not to mention Gak and Slime.
 

AEfx

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Damn right it's my definition. And quite honestly, I don't care what the mugs used to be. I know every detail of the old mug program. They did offer lifetime mugs. But even then, I always found it stupid that you couldn't get them filled in the park. I believe that today, you should be able to purchase a mug that is very much like the one at the water parks, valid at refill stations all day in the parks. The RapidFill system (as much as I hate it) has a benefit of being able to be rolled out anywhere and all the systems could be linked together. The only reason they aren't good everywhere is because of the insane way Disney manages revenue streams. F&B in the parks is different than the resorts which is different than the water parks.

Here, here!

The stupidity of the Mug situation is this: you can only use them in the resorts, at the food courts. When are you most likely to be going past the food court on your way to or from your room? When you are on your way to, or on your way back from, the theme parks. So you've got a family of four - you are supposed to carry those things around the parks with you all day just so you can drink them on the way and fill them when you get back?

Or, you wait until you get back to the room (or send someone out before everyone else) to walk the up to 20 minute round trip the food court can be in many resorts just to fill them up and lug them all back for everyone? Yet folks do it every day to make it worth it. It's your only choice unless you want to lug around the dang things all day when you can't use them and make extra voyages to and from your room expressly to refill them (and hope the heck you don't spill them on the way).

What they should do is up the price to like $30 and have them work everywhere you can get a fountain drink. Right now, since folks who value their time/money generally have their own car at WDW since you get around a lot quicker that way, to the many benefits of doing so - being able to just buy your own beverages of choice (YES YOU CAN DRINK PEPSI AT DISNEY!) at a convenience store just like everyone else, and keep them in the room - cheaper, you get what you want to drink, and you can take one to drink on the way to the parks, and have something waiting for you when you get back.
 

articos

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So is NoS, moreso now that it is expanding Club 33 (Andy Castro is having a -fest over this and I agree with Fidel's little bro here) ... and that is part of its charm.

You want huge empty space? Walkways with nothing but places to stand and get skin cancer? Visit the MK, especially New Fantasyland (when will it simply be Fantasyland again? and not get a special section here?), plenty of open space. I prefer more intimate and realistic venues.
I agree re: Club 33.
 

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