The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

bhg469

bhg469

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disneyflush said:
How frustrating it must be to be a Disney imagineer (one that is emotionally invested anyway) and see the excitement and hoopla surrounding the opening of Diagon Alley and the fans throwing money at the company for offering exciting new products to experience.
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I'm sure the truly good ones, that are still left, would love to fire back with something amazing. That would require the big wigs to loosen the old purse strings.
 
DinoInstitute

DinoInstitute

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disneyflush said:
How frustrating it must be to be a Disney imagineer (one that is emotionally invested anyway) and see the excitement and hoopla surrounding the opening of Diagon Alley and the fans throwing money at the company for offering exciting new products to experience.
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If I know Disney at all, then not that much;)

But yah, it must bother them that, for example, on WDW fan site forums nobody talks about how much they like WDW and instead Uni
 
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twebber55

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disneyflush said:
How frustrating it must be to be a Disney imagineer (one that is emotionally invested anyway) and see the excitement and hoopla surrounding the opening of Diagon Alley and the fans throwing money at the company for offering exciting new products to experience.
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that's what I was kind of getting at when I asked my question to @articos what others in the industry think about DA
gotta be a little frustrating
 
DinoInstitute

DinoInstitute

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WDW1974 said:
Oh, and let's keep any/all ride spoilers out of this thread. That's not a request, either.
None of us have ridden and many of us don't want to know every detail ... if I refused info from friends working on the area attractions, then I don't want it blown by someone in New Jersey looking at Brigante's videos. KEEP IT OUT!
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What new attraction has opened for "spoiling"?
 
jt04

jt04

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disneyflush said:
How frustrating it must be to be a Disney imagineer (one that is emotionally invested anyway) and see the excitement and hoopla surrounding the opening of Diagon Alley and the fans throwing money at the company for offering exciting new products to experience.
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I doubt it because they know about Pandora. And whatever elsa is on the way that is causing Disney to invest so heavily in infrastructure. That is not just for the inevitable crowds that will wander down from Universal.
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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twebber55 said:
that's what I was kind of getting at when I asked my question to @articos what others in the industry think about DA
gotta be a little frustrating
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I think what is most frustrating is that Disney can do top notch work. And it is on display from Cars Land to Mystic Point from the Disney Dream to Aulani.

But they also are handcuffed by management. It isn't simply one of my trademarked lines that Disney's best work winds up in coffee table books. There are probably 5-10 great projects for WDW that I am aware of (so probably another 20 that I am not) that are just sitting there.

And we get crap (yes, it looks nice, but ultimately that is what it is) like New Fantasyland (also known as the latest version of Mickey's Birthdayland!)
 
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seascape

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WDW1974 said:
UNI is a BETTER product. UNI cares about IMPROVING. UNI is a better VALUE for your money. UNI keeps getting better (or trying). WDW is stale and, in many cases, neglected. WDW does NOT care about improving. WDW is NOT a better value for your money. WDW isn't getting better and the folks who run the resort are not trying to do anything beyond take as much of your money for as little an effort as is possible. That is the case.
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I will not argue the case of which park is better and which has done more in the past few years. It is clear that Universal has done a great job recently. However to say that Universal is a better value and has done more to improve its value for the money, is clearly wrong. To ride the train Universal is making its customers that they care so much about to buy a park to park ticket. Now this may be something I don't mind doing because in 2015 I will get a 2 day park to park and I have the money, but it is just not right. Not everyone can afford such high prices as a 1 day park to park. Universal is ripping it's customers off on this. I would complain if Disney did this to ride the monorail between the MK and Epcot. It's just wrong and everyone here knows it.
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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jt04 said:
I doubt it because they know about Pandora. And whatever elsa is on the way that is causing Disney to invest so heavily in infrastructure. That is not just for the inevitable crowds that will wander down from Universal.
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Please, JT. I know it is summer. But really ... so many things at WDW are literally crumbling and rotting and you get excited because they are building parking garages at a mall that should have been there a decade ago.

Yes, the Sheriiff has a plan ... fifth gates, monorail expansion and moving Small World to EPCOT, oh my ... (bleep, bleep, bleep!)
 
jt04

jt04

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WDW1974 said:
Please, JT. I know it is summer. But really ... so many things at WDW are literally crumbling and rotting and you get a bulge because they are building parking garages at a mall that should have been there a decade ago.

Yes, the Sheriiff has a plan ... fifth gates, monorail expansion and moving Small World to EPCOT, oh my ... (bleep, bleep, bleep!)
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Sorry, I wandered in here by mistake. I'll be moving on.
 
wogwog

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disneyflush said:
How frustrating it must be to be a Disney imagineer (one that is emotionally invested anyway) and see the excitement and hoopla surrounding the opening of Diagon Alley and the fans throwing money at the company for offering exciting new products to experience.
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I was on the Fantasy a few weeks ago and an imagineer gave one of those presentations in the Buena Vista theater one sea day. I won't mention the exact cruise or his name as I felt sorry for him. I have always found these presentations interesting on other cruises so I went without really noticing the topic. His "exciting" talk was on DTD and the garages. I was glad I was in the back on an aisle so I could exit without bothering anyone else. We adjourned to the pool deck for ice cream after five minutes.
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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seascape said:
I will not argue the case of which park is better and which has done more in the past few years. It is clear that Universal has done a great job recently. However to say that Universal is a better value and has done more to improve its value for the money, is clearly wrong. To ride the train Universal is making its customers that they care so much about to buy a park to park ticket. Now this may be something I don't mind doing because in 2015 I will get a 2 day park to park and I have the money, but it is just not right. Not everyone can afford such high prices as a 1 day park to park. Universal is ripping it's customers off on this. I would complain if Disney did this to ride the monorail between the MK and Epcot. It's just wrong and everyone here knows it.
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Please. They aren't making anyone do anything. If people want to experience both parts of Potter, then they buy two-park tickets. If they don't, they don't have to.

Your analogy is off because Hogwart's Express is going to be maintained unlike the monorail ... oh, and it is an attraction, not simply transportation. In other words, your point is weak and not valid.
UNI is absolutely a better value when it comes to what they are offering for the price of admission (whether the ticket is one day one park, multi-day, or AP) than Disney.
 
jt04

jt04

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wogwog said:
I was on the Fantasy a few weeks ago and an imagineer gave one of those presentations in the Buena Vista theater one sea day. I won't mention the exact cruise or his name as I felt sorry for him. I have always found these presentations interesting on other cruises so I went without really noticing the topic. His "exciting" talk was on DTD and the garages. I was glad I was in the back on an aisle so I could exit without bothering anyone else. We adjourned to the pool deck for ice cream after five minutes.
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Didn't anyone want to know about Pandora?
 
lebeau

lebeau

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seascape said:
I will not argue the case of which park is better and which has done more in the past few years. It is clear that Universal has done a great job recently. However to say that Universal is a better value and has done more to improve its value for the money, is clearly wrong. To ride the train Universal is making its customers that they care so much about to buy a park to park ticket. Now this may be something I don't mind doing because in 2015 I will get a 2 day park to park and I have the money, but it is just not right. Not everyone can afford such high prices as a 1 day park to park. Universal is ripping it's customers off on this. I would complain if Disney did this to ride the monorail between the MK and Epcot. It's just wrong and everyone here knows it.
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Disney has set up FP tiers at Epcot and Hollywood Studios in a blatant attempt to get guests to pony up for more than one day at those parks. Or spring for a PH upgrade. That to me is far more of a cash grab that what Uni is doing which is actually extremely cool in my book.
 

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