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RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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Bairstow said:
Does this count?

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It's a good point, I guess I should clarify because things like Sesame Street Land and stuff like that have long existed to anchor kiddy lands.
 
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twebber55

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RSoxNo1 said:
Harry Potter was the second time an entire intellectual property was set to drive a land. The previous time was Jurassic Park and it wasn't as successful. Yes, it is a great IP, but there certainly was risk.
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Agree
To me Jurassic Park is done well but no where near as good as HP or Cars...its a rainforest environment with a water ride (a good ride) but to me could be more....it always goes back to how well the IP fits in a theme park environment Cars and HP does this well...not to start another debate but that's why I see Pandora being successful and of course Star Wars could do well as long as they pick the right environment because there are so many to choose from ( same with LOTR)
 
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seascape

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jmcl07 said:
The Street thinks MM+ is increasing park capacity but is it really doing so?
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MDE, magic bands and fast pass plus are working. It does increase capacity. It does save huge sums of money, ask the union. Your question should be will it increase attendance? That is not the same as capacity. If it keeps those staying in the well over 34000 hotel/DVC rooms stay on property just a little more than they do now it will increase attendance.

Now in fact if Disney were really smart it would make deals with the other Timeshare and hotels adjacent to the property and offer for a small fee 45 day fast pass plus acess. They should also offer 45 day fast pass plus use to season pass holder. That would still give a big advantage to staying on property and then give an advantage to Hotels and timeshares that are working with Disney World an advantage of those that don't. It could also be used to setup magic band charging privileges.
 
71jason

71jason

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RSoxNo1 said:
I know the investment in Diagon Alley was substantial relative to the initial Potter investment. Having said that, I agree they're turning into Pixar where for some reason, the public is rooting for a failure so they can make the "first flop" story. It sounds like that may be King Kong from early reports, but I suspect they will still be riding the Phase 2 wave for that to be a problem.
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Eh, I'm still waiting for non-fanboi opinions on Diagon Alley. I have an uneasy feeling HE's and the ice cream shop's limited capacitieswill be overwhelmed--Anna & Elsa bad--while the rest of the area will feel too much like a retread of Hogsmeade. All with guests in a bad mood because it took hours to get in there, given the horrible infrastructure. In other words, I don't think we can truly judge the area until August or so.

Then again, HHN 2012 and the Beetlejuice revamp were horrible flops but it doesn't seem to have slowed them down any.
 
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twebber55

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71jason said:
Eh, I'm still waiting for non-fanboi opinions on Diagon Alley. I have an uneasy feeling HE's and the ice cream shop's limited capacitieswill be overwhelmed--Anna & Elsa bad--while the rest of the area will feel too much like a retread of Hogsmeade. All with guests in a bad mood because it took hours to get in there, given the horrible infrastructure. In other words, I don't think we can truly judge the area until August or so.

Then again, HHN 2012 and the Beetlejuice revamp were horrible flops but it doesn't seem to have slowed them down any.
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agree with the ice cream place and HE, got a feeling they are going to be nightmare at least for the first six months
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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seascape said:
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I think you missed a very important thing. If wall street loves comcast so much more than Disney, why is comcast market cap 136.1 billion while Disney is 144.26 billion? I guess wall street does love Disney. Wall Street gives Disney a higher PE because they believe Disney profits will grow faster. Why? I thought everyone knew Universal was blowing everyone away in theme parks and profits and that next gen was a financial sink hole. Maybe they know next gen is working and will make huge profits freeing capital for more expansion? No one can deny high PE shows investors are betting their money that Disney is Growing faster than Universal.
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Did you actually read my post or just assume it was anti-Disney and pro-Universal? What does market cap have to do with the question that was posed? The original person was asking how Wall Street views Comcast's investment in their parks. My long winded answer (backed up with actual numbers from last year's 10Ks) was that they don't really focus on it since Theme Parks is a small portion of both revenue and operating income for Comcast. It's an afterthought for them. For Disney, P&R is a much more substantial piece of the overall business. It gets a lot more attention from the street. I'm not sure where you got that I was saying Wall Street loves anyone. Next time try reading the actual post before commenting on it. If you are having trouble with the big words just ask and someone can help you out:cool:
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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jmcl07 said:
This could mean bribery, and no I'm not saying that's happening with Disney. It likely isn't but China is not risk free, you can harm your brand even which we all know how brand obsessed companies are today.
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It's still very common in eastern europe, russia, and much of the far east. It's part of doing business and while most companies claim to take the high road, the dirty work is just done at different levels to try to keep their hands clean. It's reality - its just not talked about here in the West because people still believe we can project our ideals and way of thinking on everyone.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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stevehousse said:
what's more interesting regarding this is how no one has been bashing Uni for their "non official opening day" date for Potter, but everyone sure b*t*hed about Disney when they did the same "dance around" with the mine train opening...
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Because people were comparing Disney to Disney's past... not Universal to Disney. You also are not reading Universal websites :)
 
asianway

asianway

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71jason said:
Could be coincidence, but the combative, pro-Disney Jimmy Thick--who admittedly could be a decent writer--stopped posting around the same time Surrell deleted his Twitter account.

71Jason - One last Jimmy Thick signature for the conspiracy theorists
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Also coincidental about a months worth of Jimmy's posts from March to April were deleted around the time it went down.
 

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