The Spirited Back Nine ...

[aka_emilicious]

You are probably correct, The Spirited threads tend to attract Journalists (past and present), Financial Analysts and Engineers - all professions with very limited tolerance for BRAVO-SIERRA.

Agreed.

My tolerance for Bravo-Sierra is +/- 0.00001

 

[Matt7187]

Has anyone had the chance to be in Animal Kingdom after sunset? I know it has plenty of nighttime lighting but I'm curious to know if people find it as beautifully transformed as the other 3 parks are after dark.

I've been in it at night for a private event, in the Africa section, and it was stunning

 

[ford91exploder]

Large budget leftover, you say? That can only mean one thing, the 'next' NextGen, MyMagic++.

Putting on my badly fitting optimist hat, Additional budget for EPCOT refreshes which I think we all agree are much needed.

 

[Bairstow]

I've been in it at night for a private event, in the Africa section, and it was stunning

Hmm. Last time we were there we thought about milling around after park close, just to see if we could sample it but the place closed at 7 and sunset wouldn't have been until 8, so we didn't bother trying. I kind of wish we had.

 

[ford91exploder]

I've been in it at night for a private event, in the Africa section, and it was stunning

Same here AK after dark is ABSOLUTELY stunning, Those oversized insects near the tree of life are LIGHTED! AK has so many details which you cannot see in daylight, Except for the lack of animals I like AK better after dark.

 

[BrerJon]

Putting on my badly fitting optimist hat, Additional budget for EPCOT refreshes which I think we all agree are much needed.

Haha, good one.

 

[wdisney9000]

Dear Disney,

Why is it that a four diamond hotel can not only charge less than half per night than your grand Floridian but they can also change out broken light bulbs?

Obviously unlike Disney the hotel is a not for profit organization....

Or...obviously, that hotel has a ladder, maintenance crew, and manager that give a d@mn about their hotel. Disneys glacial pace of getting things done does not just apply to construction.

 

[Matt7187]

Hmm. Last time we were there we thought about milling around after park close, just to see if we could sample it but the place closed at 7 and sunset wouldn't have been until 8, so we didn't bother trying. I kind of wish we had.

I highly recommend you lurk around after closing next time you are there unless avatar is open and everything by then

 

[GoofGoof]

Based on TDO's past performance if gate DOES NOT drop significantly TSPL and TSMM track 3 will be ALL we get, Not being a D&G'er here but just putting on my business hat.

TDO has dropped a couple expensive E ticket's (BLT and American Idol) and if they can replace it with 3 B tickets and a E ticket expansion and that creates the same revenue stream at a lower expense that is what TDO will do. These days TWDC is run by the numbers and numbers only.

DCA's 1.0 was dropping every year so the expansion was greenlit, DHS does not have that problem or did not pre-closures So TDO will build just enough to maintain revenues at historic norms, Yes there IS a large budget but there is no law saying TDO has to USE all of it. Sorry Fanboi's but that's reality.

Anything is possible, but I'll trust the insiders who have collectively said the budget is huge and the project is significant. Plus TDO has nothing to do with this project until its finished and they are handed the keys to operate it.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Some of the convoluted stories that some CMs come up with about that subject.As you say, myth.

Kermit needs to weigh in here....

 

[spacemt354]

Please recall your original post that started this particular discussion:

News Flash! Life is too short to focus on what is wrong with things in an amusement park. People are supposed to go there to enjoy themselves. If they can no longer enjoy the experience, they shouldn't be there. Of course, some people's enjoyment may be in the act of finding fault.

To be fair, with increasing crowds, the necessary amount of planning and never ending extra costs, enjoyment is becoming somewhat harder to find even without focusing on entertainment, attractions and rides.

However, no matter what they do or don't do,the parks are never going to please everyone, but a person can focus on what is coming that may be better to their liking. Look for the positives.​

Effectively, your opinion is that everyone should stop complaining because "life is too short".

Yet in your most recent post, you write "others should also be allowed to have an opinion or make an observation without essentially being told they belong elsewhere or that they are flat out wrong". Effectively, you're telling everyone that you should have the right to express your opinion of other people's opinions, but that no one else has the right to express their opinion about your opinion.

You seem to be applying a double-standard. It appears you want to critique others yet expect no one to critique you.

I didn't read it like that.

Seems like the main focus shouldn't be "life is too short" but moreso..."life is not perfect"

In a perfect world, people would all respect each other's opinions without resorting to insults and bias. But Disney/Uni fanboys (and society in general) are incapable of doing that on a grand scale. Everyone has their passions and biases.

In regards to the context of the initial quote (the News Flash one) I don't think they were critiquing others, but more advising others based on how they view the world and how they think people should focus on positives rather than negatives.

Ultimately, I'm not saying I entirely agree with the sentiments of the member, but I don't think that member deserved a long retort accusing them of applying a double-standard.

 

[sshindel]

In my opinion the Avatar project has two primary drivers

1- It's Iger's vanity project - Much like Carsland was Lasseter's project

2 - AK is seen as a half day park and Avatar is designed to ride the potential coattails of the sequels and create additional attractions which are not dependent on daylight, I see it more as a tool to keep AK open past 5PM most of the year. Avatar should look even better at night than it does during the day. It's in the same vein as the 'Rivers of Light' project.

I agree with both of those points. The reason I brought it up was you had said the only way Disney was going to build anything was based on the numbers. There were much cheaper options to extend the operating hours of DAK. While I agree that they will always have numbers backing their decisions, they will take larger projects on from time to time.

 

[TalkingHead]

We need a ruling, Dave. Is the title of the new Star Wars considered a spoiler?

 

[asianway]

Agreed.

My tolerance for Bravo-Sierra is +/- 0.00001

Are you a sub commander?

(I feel like I'm the only one who liked that movie)

 

[Matt7187]

We need a ruling, Dave. Is the title of the new Star Wars considered a spoiler?

I would say no, but it isn't my decision

 

[spacemt354]

We need a ruling, Dave. Is the title of the new Star Wars considered a spoiler?

I would say no...but on a related note I found a tweet by Anthony Daniels (C-3PO) that has me quite excited. (Not a spoiler...just more hype)

"No movie sequel is better than The Empire Strikes Back." You might eat those words for Xmas dinner in 2015. Joy & Indigestion to the world!

 

[Travel Junkie]

And why aren't people seemingly understanding this?

And no, maybe TSPL and it's "rides" aren't exactly what the park needs. The fact is people want E-tickets. Folks, we have a park that desperately needs to be built out. No one seems to hate Bugs Land. Because it's Toy Story it's suddenly Chester and Hester's?

The park needs at least two solid D/E attractions (honestly, three), as well as several smaller attractions. Stop focusing on them being 'kiddy" rides. Don't most adults seem to love Mater's? How is RC Racer a kiddy ride? How is Parachute Drop where you go up in the air a kiddy ride? And those aren't even confirmed for us. I just don't get the outrage.

If you were to ask a regular to Disneyland what they rate the worst land at the resort is, the majority would say A Bugs Land. It gets plenty of hate out west.

DHS needs those quality family rides, attractions that have been lacking since the beginning. However if they go ahead with this, it is the cheap and easy way out. Much of the criticism of this rumor stems from that sentiment. TDO had a choice to give Frozen the attraction or land it deserves. Instead they went the easy way and are overlaying an existing attraction. Meanwhile it appears Tokyo is going to do it right, how Orlando should have done it. Perhaps this is one small piece to a larger puzzle, but Disney has lost the confidence of many when it comes to Orlando. So it is easy to hear something like TSPL and immediately jump to conclusions and think, here we go again.

Disney has a chance to completely re-invent a Theme Park. If this comes to fruition TSPL is another example of the easy way out instead taking the challenge and being more creative. There are so many creative things they could do with the great IP’s they have. This is the Golden Age of Mediocrity and Disney is leading the charge.

 

[wdisney9000]

Based on TDO's past performance if gate DOES NOT drop significantly TSPL and TSMM track 3 will be ALL we get, Not being a D&G'er here but just putting on my business hat.

TDO has dropped a couple expensive E ticket's (BLT and American Idol) and if they can replace it with 3 B tickets and a E ticket expansion and that creates the same revenue stream at a lower expense that is what TDO will do. These days TWDC is run by the numbers and numbers only.

I vote for a "Watcher in the Woods" D ticket at HS. That was a Disney movie, right? It would be cheap to build too. Just build a room with mirrors all around and have the girl appear and scare the crap out of people, Elsa comes out to freeze her and you escape. Take photos for Memory Maker and sell the DVD in the gift shop. Throw all the excess money at the bottom line to give the appearance that MM+ is boosting revenue.

 

[TalkingHead]

I would say no...but on a related note I found a tweet by Anthony Daniels (C-3PO) that has me quite excited. (Not a spoiler...just more hype)

"No movie sequel is better than The Empire Strikes Back." You might eat those words for Xmas dinner in 2015. Joy & Indigestion to the world!

Star Wars fans are as bad as Disney fans when it comes to buying into hype. They never learn their lesson.

My expectations are nil. Doubt I'll even see the new movie. But if C-3PO says it's the greatest sequel ever...

 

[RSoxNo1]

Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens