The Spirited Back Nine ...

[GrammieBee]

If you find this thread distasteful, There are many other 'Everything is Wonderful at WDW' threads to participate in which you I'm sure you would find more enjoyable.

I wasn't aware that I said I found this thread distasteful. I believe I said I found it interesting, informative and sometimes amusing (enjoyable). WHY are you having a problem? And what makes you think I find everything wonderful at WDW?

 

[Next Big Thing]

Miceage has triple confirmed that the backlot tour is being replaced with Toy Story Playland and one of the rides will be a re-themed clone of the cars land favorite.....Mater's Junkyard Jamboree


what? You thought Disney was going to replace Backlot tour with an E-ticket?

The backlot tour was VERY big you know. TSPL won't cover probably even half of the land it took up.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Silly little wand stroker, you need to wipe the floo powder or of your eyes and put your little round glasses on so you can see clearly. No one here thinks this is all DHS needs. We know DHS needs extensive and expensive additions. But DHS does need kid friendly rides plus added capacity in a hurry before the (hopefully) bigger projects start. TSPL, if well themed, will provide both and be a welcome addition to Pixar place.

If you put Pink Slime Nuggets (the kiddies love 'em) on the menu of a 4 star restaurant is it still a 4 star restaurant?

Yeah, DHS needs carnival rides right frickin' NOW!!!!!! Because TDO hasn't had 25 years to work on the issue.

I never once said that TSPL was all DHS was getting. And I whole heartedly agree that DHS is sorely lacking in rides for the very demo they are marketing hard too. That doesn't mean that DHS needs gussied up carnival rides.

Now that I said that, I have to say that actually, I'm OK with gussied up carnival rides if you really go big and take it to the next level. Space Mountain is little more than a mad mouse, but they took it to the next level.

 

[Next Big Thing]

I wonder if they will build TSPL BEHIND Midway Mania and reroute the exits so you exit into the land. That way TSMM and TSPL are more connected and TSPL is taking up a minimal amount of land.

 

[Next Big Thing]

It's not, Star Wars Land will likely be a big deal, but folks are very disappointed that a good enough land like TSPL could be taking valuable real estate in a small, landlocked park.

You do realize how big the BLT is and how small TSPL is in comparison, right?

 

[Next Big Thing]

If you put Pink Slime Nuggets (the kiddies love 'em) on the menu of a 4 star restaurant is it still a 4 star restaurant?

Yeah, DHS needs carnival rides right frickin' NOW!!!!!! Because TDO hasn't had 25 years to work on the issue.

I never once said that TSPL was all DHS was getting. And I whole heartedly agree that DHS is sorely lacking in rides for the very demo they are marketing hard too. That doesn't mean that DHS needs gussied up carnival rides.

Now that I said that, I have to say that actually, I'm OK with gussied up carnival rides if you really go big and take it to the next level. Space Mountain is little more than a mad mouse, but they took it to the next level.

People keep saying carnival rides... but MK is full of them. Theirs are just too "classic" for anyone to try and argue against them.

And Mater's is a pretty fun ride too.

 

[Captain Neo]

Imagine Adventureland without Pirates... I feel that is what DHS is evolving too

You mean like every single Adventureland in every other park besides Magic Kingdom?

 

[Disneyhead'71]

People keep saying carnival rides... but MK is full of them. Their just too "classic" for anyone to try and argue against them.

And Mater's is a pretty fun ride too.

Mater's is pretty well themed and a fun ride. I hope the retheme is as well done. And the overall look of TSPL I'm OK with. I think it's really just the slinky dog ride I have a problem with.

And as far as the classic Disney carnival rides, yes when Walt invented the modern theme park he used a few. But Disney Park went a long time between building Disneyland and building DCA.

 

[Next Big Thing]

Mater's is pretty well themed and a fun ride. I hope the retheme is as well done. And the overall look of TSPL I'm OK with. I think it's really just the slinky dog ride I have a problem with.

I don't like the Slinky Dog ride either as it's a bit too kiddy ride/carnival-esque. It's pretty much Heimlich's Chew-Chew, right? If that ride get's replaced with literally anything, even a regular spinner like Dumbo, i'd be happy.

It's a decent first phase either way, they need to come through with a major Pixar E-ticket though or what was even the point?

 

[SirLink]

TSPL consists of one B-ticket aimed at the kiddie crowd, one B-ticket generally appealing to every age group and a C-ticket pegged at teens/young adults/thrill seekers, with a "fun for all" D-ticket that will finally have decent capacity. It will also represent HALF the rides in a park that's going to be a war-zone of construction walls. It can be completed in a little over a year from now to prevent the park from completely exsanguinating in the interim.

The "MK Part 2" way would be to take multiple years to open a miniland with an increased capacity spinner...

This seems to actually suggest someone out there has a strategy to make the park survive through its proposed 1.2 billion dollar expansion. Someone has actually learned what works (Junkyard Jamboree) and what doesn't (Parachute Drop). A park formed solely of E-tickets is not good park design. TSPL may not get everyone hot and bothered, but it's desperately needed and an honest to goodness - good thing.

TSPL consists at Paris of 3 B-Tickets here you'll get your 3 B-Tcikets with changing out two rides and obviously the expanded C-Ticket that is already in place. The opportunity cost for the location is multiple D-tickets, etc. not Carnie rides.

By "MK Part 2" I suggest content rather time - because this ain't being built quickly. the themes should be on an upward trend of both quality and thematics, TSPL fails to deliver both. It is tacky just like All-Stars and Art of Animation resorts.

Who says you won't get the B-Ticket Parachute drop, actually your more likely to get that then RC Racer. But you will likely get neither due to slight lines, you'll get you the Woody's Jamboree, a teacup variant and the lamest ride in all Disney parks , Slinky Dog.

 

[PhotoDave219]

No one can say with complete confidence what exactly is coming. Plans are in so much flux the Spirit doesn't even feel comfortable offering specific details because so many things aren't nailed down.

To review, what we know:

• Known IP: Cars, Toy Story, and Star Wars
• Construction to begin in three phases (January, April/May and October)
• BAH comes down in January
• Nothing in the park is safe save for ToT, RnRC, TSMM and Star Tours
• Budget, at this point, is around DCA 2.0 levels ($1.2-1.5 Billion)

TWo clarifications…

First, the rumored Star Wars is completely different and has a comepletely separate budget then anything regarding the back lot tour. I still feel this is at the absolute earliest, 12 to 18 months before construction starts on that.

Second, both myself and Mr. spirit have heard completely opposite things in regards to great movie ride. I'm still not going to get into the specifics of it especially considering our information is conflicting there. Not horribly shocking given the number of people to work for Disney.

 

[twebber55]

So, DHS is getting a toy story themed Chester and Hester's. And people here think that is what DHS needs.

i would say people see a place for it for small children and we re hoping other parts of the expansion will be bigger and better..in fact i would bet dollars to doughnuts that TSPL will be the smallest part of this expansion

 

[flynnibus]

You mean like every single Adventureland in every other park besides Magic Kingdom?

Thanks for completely missing the point. Well done. You get an A for reading - an F for comprehension

 

[RSoxNo1]

Those people that are saying that DHS needs family friendly rides are correct. That doesn't necessarily mean that it needs Toy Story Playland. TSP arguably isn't a series of family friendly attractions, but rather kid friendly attractions.

Having said that, it really does sound like the budget will include three B-ticket rides (Toy Story Playland) as well as additional large scale attractions. That's the expansion model that took place in Hong Kong Disneyland and I think everyone here would be on board with the phase 2 of that park.

 

[Next Big Thing]

To me, I feel like there is a larger Pixar ride planned, along with TSPL and whatever Star Wars stuff comes. TSPL is just planned to come first to help ease the pain of all the construction and closures the park has and will be seeing over the next few years.

 

[Siren]

i would say people see a place for it for small children and we re hoping other parts of the expansion will be bigger and better..in fact i would bet dollars to doughnuts that TSPL will be the smallest part of this expansion

I hope you are right but I just have a feeling that Avatarland and AK will end up being the big winner out of all of the "expansions", in part, because of James Cameron teaming up with Disney's Imagineers. Under Cameron's guidance, the Imagineers will finally be free to exceed the nickel & dime boundaries and stipulations that Disney unfairly imposes on them.

Disney has become somewhat reactive instead of proactive.The only reason for the New Fantasyland expansion is because of Harry Potter, otherwise we would only have a Pixie Hollow meet and greet. Diagon Alley, Transformers, Despicable Me, and Simpsons expansion didn't rock Disney the way others claimed it would. And, Iger only promised a strong Star Wars "presence" in Disney Parks.

There is enough room for a decent Star Wars Land and plenty of amazing details. So, we'll see. Two really nice Star Wars themed rides can fit nicely back here and of course a restaurant or something. I just hope TSPL is completed by late summer of 2016 or before Avatarland.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You mean like every single Adventureland in every other park besides Magic Kingdom?

Besides missing the point, Pirates of the Caribbean is in Adventureland at Tokyo Disneyland and Disneyland Paris.

 

[71jason]

The Christmas Parade is being renamed to the "Disney Frozen Christmas Celebration" this year.
http://www.rotoscopers.com/2014/11/04/disney-frozen-christmas-celebration-to-air-december-25-on-abc/

I legit got mad when reading this and I can't believe my annoyance with Frozen has gotten to the point where I have emotional reactions to the shilliest shillfest DIsney's ever shilled out getting co-opted to specifically shill Frozen.

"Welcome to Bill & Ted's ..."

"... Frozen Halloween of Fun!!!"

Art becomes life. Or at least parody becomes reality.

 

[BrerJon]

The backlot tour was VERY big you know. TSPL won't cover probably even half of the land it took up.

A Toy Story Playland is about the same size as Storybook Circus, and seeing how that only has one ride, a shop, a meet and greet and a play area, getting three rides in that space is pretty good in comparison. I think the Backlot Tour space has room for 3 or 4 mini lands that size.

 

[twebber55]

I hope you are right but I just have a feeling that Avatarland and AK will end up being the big winner out of all of the "expansions", in part, because of James Cameron teaming up with Disney's Imagineers. Under Cameron's guidance, the Imagineers will finally be free to exceed the nickel & dime boundaries and stipulations that Disney unfairly imposes on them.

Disney has become somewhat reactive instead of proactive.The only reason for the New Fantasyland expansion is because of Harry Potter, otherwise we would only have a Pixie Hollow meet and greet. Diagon Alley, Transformers, Despicable Me, and Simpsons expansion didn't rock Disney the way others claimed it would. And, Iger only promised a strong Star Wars "presence" in Disney Parks.

There is enough room for a decent Star Wars Land and plenty of amazing details. So, we'll see. Two really nice Star Wars themed rides can fit nicely back here and of course a restaurant or something. I just hope TSPL is completed by late summer of 2016 or before Avatarland.

well it looks like DHS budget is twice what DAk is getting so im sure we re going to get big things
i would also guess TSPL wil be done by 2016