The Spirited Back Nine ...

BrerJon

Well-Known Member
Some things and their associated symbols just need to be consigned to the ash heap of history, The 'Mammy' cookie jars are another example.

I disagree, it's a great designed character, is nice for Florida to have something unique (well, that and Figment I guess) that can't be 'One Disneyed', and it's not the birds fault that its agent was a nutcase. Plenty of fictional characters have less than pleasant links in their creators or sponsors, but we accept that views were different in the past and a strong character can survive beyond that.

Of course if she got a penny in royalties from any OB stuff today then that would be different, but I don't think she does. I also kind of like the idea that she's looking on with horror, powerless as the people she discriminated against are now getting to know a character she was closely linked with and claiming it as their own. Especially as - being a fruit-based creature of uncertain gender - the OB isn't exactly a poster character for 'traditional values'!
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
I don't doubt it, but, that doesn't stop it from being directed at the wrong thing does it? I'm sure that within the LGBT their are many that have enough common sense to know that those thing were said by Anita and not the company symbol. And that very shortly after she said her most blatant anti-gay statement she was removed as the company spokesperson.

Along WITH her pal Orange Bird. Personally I think Orange Bird IS cute, but OB has a bad association from a period best forgotten.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
I disagree, it's a great designed character, is nice for Florida to have something unique (well, that and Figment I guess) that can't be 'One Disneyed', and it's not the birds fault that its agent was a nutcase. Plenty of fictional characters have less than pleasant links in their creators or sponsors, but we accept that views were different in the past and a strong character can survive beyond that.

Of course if she got a penny in royalties from any OB stuff today then that would be different, but I don't think she does. I also kind of like the idea that she's looking on with horror, powerless as the people she discriminated against are now getting to know a character she was closely linked with and claiming it as their own. Especially as - being a fruit-based creature of uncertain gender - the OB isn't exactly a poster character for 'traditional values'!

You have a good point there. Do like the fruit based, indeterminate gender bit :)
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Along WITH her pal Orange Bird. Personally I think Orange Bird IS cute, but OB has a bad association from a period best forgotten.
Bad things that stupid people have done should never be forgotten. I don't think OB is connected by most people but if it were it might stand for a time when people were less tolerant, but, that is the time, not the character.
 

BrerJon

Well-Known Member
Or 'We Speak ENGLISH at Universal'...

I can see Universal running a campaign showing a guest waking up one morning, deciding to go to Universal, leaving their phone at home, walking up to a restaurant... 'table for two' 'of course sir', then walking up to a ride, no reservation needed... then at the end they say 'Universal... now that's *my* kind of magic!'.
 

Mike S

Well-Known Member
What was it? It's been deleted now. Did anyone save it?
Don't know why people can't see it, but here it is.
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BrerJon

Well-Known Member
Either he has had an Ebenezer Scrooge experience or he is really trying to change his image. I don't think that the old Mike would have been able to laugh at himself that much.

Eisner was great in the 80s and early 90s, but then when Frank Wells died, as Scrooge did when his business partner Jacob Marley died, he lost his way and forgot the true meaning of Disney... erm Christmas... whatever.

After being shown the ghosts of the past (Roy), the present (er, Lasseter maybe?) and the future (Iger), he finally changed his ways and let go of the worries of the world that had made him a penny-pinching miser and started to enjoy life again.

Of course, the sequel (A Christmas Carol 2: MyScrooge+) didn't turn out too well for the company, but Eisner himself went on to be a respected and admired historical figure for the good that he did, more than the bad he was in danger of becoming known for.
 
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Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Eisner was great in the 80s and early 90s, but then when Frank Wells died, as Scrooge did when his business partner Jacob Marley died, he lost his way and forgot the true meaning of Disney... erm Christmas... whatever.

After being shown the ghosts of the past (Roy), the present (er, Lasseter maybe?) and the future (Iger), he finally changed his ways and let go of the worries of the world that had made him a penny-pinching miser and started to enjoy life again.

Of course, the sequel (A Christmas Carol 2: MyScrooge+) didn't turn out too well, but Eisner himself went on to be a respected and admired historical figure for the good that he did, more than the bad he was in danger of becoming known for.
Also he may be jockeying for his old job back too. That would be interesting wouldn't it?
 

Rodan75

Well-Known Member
Eisner was great in the 80s and early 90s, but then when Frank Wells died, as Scrooge did when his business partner Jacob Marley died, he lost his way and forgot the true meaning of Disney... erm Christmas... whatever.

After being shown the ghosts of the past (Roy), the present (er, Lasseter maybe?) and the future (Iger), he finally changed his ways and let go of the worries of the world that had made him a penny-pinching miser and started to enjoy life again.

Of course, the sequel (A Christmas Carol 2: MyScrooge+) didn't turn out too well, but Eisner himself went on to be a respected and admired historical figure for the good that he did, more than the bad he was in danger of becoming known for.

Ummmm...maybe folks should reconsider their idolization of Eisner. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/group-asks-ftc-investigate-michael-755659
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Eisner was great in the 80s and early 90s, but then when Frank Wells died, as Scrooge did when his business partner Jacob Marley died, he lost his way and forgot the true meaning of Disney... erm Christmas... whatever.
I'm not sure Wells was Eisner's Marley. Marley was worse than Scrooge.
 

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