ford91exploder
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Wants to know where decision makers shoes are so a 'deposit' can be made as well as shred their furnitureWhat does your cat think of Frozen taking over the Norway pavilion?
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ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Haunted Mansion graveyard...
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
The data does tend to confirm ones worst fears about how Hollywood works, The days of Hollywood accounting may be at an end finally. Plus the racist comments by executives who are constantly lecturing others on racism.
the.dreamfinder
Well-Known Member
The only problem with these leaks is that they came at the expense of 30,000 Social Security numbers.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Why do people keep calling it a leak? Their computers were broken into and information was stolen. That is hardly the same as something being slipped out.
Nubs70
Well-Known Member
Had one of those too. Beautiful dog with extremely mellow disposition. Lots of fur. You should check with local vet or even rescue organization. You could get one for a real reasonable price.
Nubs70
Well-Known Member
And have 6 toes on their hind legs. Flipped over my puppy for the first time and thought I owned some type of mutant.They are basically white newfoundlands that don't swim as well
bhg469
Well-Known Member
Yes! I noticed that before on one in our training class. Doesn't make them any less awesome, just a lil more deadly.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Two of our friends 3 are rescue dogs so that will probably be the route we take as well.
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
The challenge with adding a limited number of attractions to an existing theme park is that those attractions tend to draw more Guests than they have capacity for. Let's look at Seven Dwarfs Mine Train (SDMT).
touringplans.com estimates that SDMT has an average hourly capacity of between 1500-to-1600 riders per hour. At 1600/hour, that translates into 22,400 riders in a 14-hour day (9-to-11).
The Magic Kingdom's (MK) average daily attendance is over 50K, leaving most Guests frustrated at not being able to ride SDMT.
Meanwhile, the MK's attendance is up about 5%, translating into an extra 2500 Guests. Guests don't ride a single attraction and leave; they ride multiple attractions. Assuming a relatively modest 10 rides per day at MK, that works out to 25,000 extra riders.
Attractions such as the SDMT and Frozen meet-and-greets add capacity but they often fail to keep up with increased demand.
The same phenomenon could happen at Disney's Animal Kingdom (DAK) and Disney's Hollywood Studios (DHS) as new lands are added. New attractions will draw more Guests, almost certainly making the parks feel more crowded.
A goal of the upcoming additions at these 2 parks is to turn them into full-day parks. Even if total gate clicks increases modestly, these parks will feel more crowded throughout the day since people will stay at them longer.
Crowd levels are the single biggest source of customer dissatisfaction. In order to keep people coming, Disney needs to keep people happy. Disney needs to find ways to make the parks feel less crowded, not more crowded.
Disney needs to increase WDW capacity in a meaningful way in order to relieve some of the strain at the current theme parks, while also adding capacity for future growth, growth that will result in increased revenue and profit.
A fully-realized 5th WDW theme park will add significant Guest capacity to support at least an additional 10 million gate clicks annually. New lands at DAK and DHS are not going to do that.
Yes, DAK and DHS need new lands.
However, by the middle of the next decade, WDW will need a 5th theme park.
bhg469
Well-Known Member
And that is when they will announce one, opening 10 years after the announcement.The challenge with adding a limited number of attractions to an existing theme park is that those attractions tend to draw more Guests than they have capacity for. Let's look at Seven Dwarfs Mine Train (SDMT).
touringplans.com estimates that SDMT has an average hourly capacity of between 1500-to-1600 riders per hour. At 1600/hour, that translates into 22,400 riders in a 14-hour day (9-to-11).
The Magic Kingdom's (MK) average daily attendance is over 50K, leaving most Guests frustrated at not being able to ride SDMT.
Meanwhile, the MK's attendance is up about 5%, translating into an extra 2500 Guests. Guests don't ride a single attraction and leave; they ride multiple attractions. Assuming a relatively modest 10 rides per day at MK, that works out to 25,000 extra riders.
Attractions such as the SDMT and Frozen meet-and-greets add capacity but they often fail to keep up with increased demand.
The same phenomenon could happen at Disney's Animal Kingdom (DAK) and Disney's Hollywood Studios (DHS) as new lands are added. New attractions will draw more Guests, almost certainly making the parks feel more crowded.
A goal of the upcoming additions at these 2 parks is to turn them into full-day parks. Even if total gate clicks increases modestly, these parks will feel more crowded throughout the day since people will stay at them longer.
Crowd levels are the single biggest source of customer dissatisfaction. In order to keep people coming, Disney needs to keep people happy. Disney needs to find ways to make the parks feel less crowded, not more crowded.
Disney needs to increase WDW capacity in a meaningful way in order to relieve some of the strain at the current theme parks, while also adding capacity for future growth, growth that will result in increased revenue and profit.
A fully-realized 5th WDW theme park will add significant Guest capacity to support at least an additional 10 million gate clicks annually. New lands at DAK and DHS are not going to do that.
Yes, DAK and DHS need new lands.
However, by the middle of the next decade, WDW will need a 5th theme park.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I agree in theory with this. What they need is a little bit of both. Right now as we all know the crowds at MK are significantly larger than the other 3 parks. By adding capacity to DHS and AK particularly the goal is to spread the crowds amongst the existing 4 parks. Assuming the same number of guests were to visit WDW this plan would be sufficient. Crowds at MK would become more tolerable and the other parks would increase.The challenge with adding a limited number of attractions to an existing theme park is that those attractions tend to draw more Guests than they have capacity for. Let's look at Seven Dwarfs Mine Train (SDMT).
touringplans.com estimates that SDMT has an average hourly capacity of between 1500-to-1600 riders per hour. At 1600/hour, that translates into 22,400 riders in a 14-hour day (9-to-11).
The Magic Kingdom's (MK) average daily attendance is over 50K, leaving most Guests frustrated at not being able to ride SDMT.
Meanwhile, the MK's attendance is up about 5%, translating into an extra 2500 Guests. Guests don't ride a single attraction and leave; they ride multiple attractions. Assuming a relatively modest 10 rides per day at MK, that works out to 25,000 extra riders.
Attractions such as the SDMT and Frozen meet-and-greets add capacity but they often fail to keep up with increased demand.
The same phenomenon could happen at Disney's Animal Kingdom (DAK) and Disney's Hollywood Studios (DHS) as new lands are added. New attractions will draw more Guests, almost certainly making the parks feel more crowded.
A goal of the upcoming additions at these 2 parks is to turn them into full-day parks. Even if total gate clicks increases modestly, these parks will feel more crowded throughout the day since people will stay at them longer.
Crowd levels are the single biggest source of customer dissatisfaction. In order to keep people coming, Disney needs to keep people happy. Disney needs to find ways to make the parks feel less crowded, not more crowded.
Disney needs to increase WDW capacity in a meaningful way in order to relieve some of the strain at the current theme parks, while also adding capacity for future growth, growth that will result in increased revenue and profit.
A fully-realized 5th WDW theme park will add significant Guest capacity to support at least an additional 10 million gate clicks annually. New lands at DAK and DHS are not going to do that.
Yes, DAK and DHS need new lands.
However, by the middle of the next decade, WDW will need a 5th theme park.
The problem as you point out is that WDW could become a victim of its own success. Adding new attractions will not just redistribute crowds between the 4 parks, but add additional guests as well. In a way this has been happening for years now except the new additions are mostly at Universal. A 5th gate will eventually be needed if Orlando tourism continues to grow and WDW continues to draw in new and repeat guests. If they just built a 5th gate without adding significant capacity to DHS and AK they would run the risk of having a really jammed up 5th gate plus an overly crowded MK.
In a way what is happening today is laying the ground work for a future growth for the whole resort. FLE added additional capacity and dining that was needed and the Tangled toilets and hub rebuild with alternate exit are examples of things happening today to prepare for even larger crowds. Things like road widening and parking lot and parking garage additions are part of that too. Not overly exciting things, but you need the infrastructure to support an expansion. Really the only area going the other way is the hotels which aren't really seeing a large increase to capacity.
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
The challenge with adding a limited number of attractions to an existing theme park is that those attractions tend to draw more Guests than they have capacity for. Let's look at Seven Dwarfs Mine Train (SDMT).
touringplans.com estimates that SDMT has an average hourly capacity of between 1500-to-1600 riders per hour. At 1600/hour, that translates into 22,400 riders in a 14-hour day (9-to-11).
The Magic Kingdom's (MK) average daily attendance is over 50K, leaving most Guests frustrated at not being able to ride SDMT.
Meanwhile, the MK's attendance is up about 5%, translating into an extra 2500 Guests. Guests don't ride a single attraction and leave; they ride multiple attractions. Assuming a relatively modest 10 rides per day at MK, that works out to 25,000 extra riders.
Attractions such as the SDMT and Frozen meet-and-greets add capacity but they often fail to keep up with increased demand.
The same phenomenon could happen at Disney's Animal Kingdom (DAK) and Disney's Hollywood Studios (DHS) as new lands are added. New attractions will draw more Guests, almost certainly making the parks feel more crowded.
A goal of the upcoming additions at these 2 parks is to turn them into full-day parks. Even if total gate clicks increases modestly, these parks will feel more crowded throughout the day since people will stay at them longer.
Crowd levels are the single biggest source of customer dissatisfaction. In order to keep people coming, Disney needs to keep people happy. Disney needs to find ways to make the parks feel less crowded, not more crowded.
Disney needs to increase WDW capacity in a meaningful way in order to relieve some of the strain at the current theme parks, while also adding capacity for future growth, growth that will result in increased revenue and profit.
A fully-realized 5th WDW theme park will add significant Guest capacity to support at least an additional 10 million gate clicks annually. New lands at DAK and DHS are not going to do that.
Yes, DAK and DHS need new lands.
However, by the middle of the next decade, WDW will need a 5th theme park.
We need all of the above. We need to fill out animal kingdom and fill out the studios. We need to spread the crowd out from Magic Kingdom.
And then a fifth gate. One would hope that will be in the works after Shanghai gets built.
Mike S
Well-Known Member
Imo Disney really messed up by not consistently putting meaningful new additions in the parks for so long. AK got EE in 2006 and DHS got TSMM in 2008. Then nothing until NFL and now *almost* nothing until Avatar (yes I know Frozen is coming before Avatar, but that's not really a big addition. Especially capacity wise). Disney would've been much better off right now if they were building for all that time at the same rate Universal is now. You know what they say, hindsight is 20/20.
Kman101
Well-Known Member
100% agreed. And they're paying for it now. Literally LOL. I'm sure someone somewhere in that company knows the mistake they made ignoring the parks for so long.
I know Epcot really isn't a priority but it needs small help too. They can expand as well but they don't.
Mike S
Well-Known Member
Yup. It's great that we seem to be getting a lot by the end of the decade, but honestly it's additions that were needed a long time ago. About Epcot the best thing they can do is reopen WoL with Inside Out. I'm sure the movie will be successful and we all know how Disney just LOVES using established properties in the parks nowadays. I would call it a win/win. Then again it's such an obvious thing to do that I'm sure it won't be done. Those festivals are WAY more important than having the pavilion open and attracting people all 365 days a year you know?
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
As long as per guest spending continues to increase TWDC assumes parks are fine as they are. People keep forgetting that P&R is TWDC's ATM and they really don't care about the guest experience as long as there is cash to withdraw for stock buybacks and acquisitions. When the cash runs out they will sell P&R to the highest bidder.
All the additions were started by Eisner, Iger basically has stopped all capital investment in the parks except for his vanity project Avatar.
I really feel bad for the Next executive team because Iger and company have left nothing for them to work with.
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Cesar R M
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more like "more reason to have a DECENT AND COMPETENT IT team with security experience, running your networks".
almost all the recent hackings were due of utter total stupidity from companies refusing to tackle IT problems.
like companies not upgrading their software, despite having critical well known faults. (HomeDepot, Target). And even not putting minimal security or encryption (Sony Networks, Playstation Network Europe)
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
What if the building of "satellite" parks will continue worldwide, and that is the way of the Walt Disney Company to offload the "cargo" from WDW?The challenge with adding a limited number of attractions to an existing theme park is that those attractions tend to draw more Guests than they have capacity for. Let's look at Seven Dwarfs Mine Train (SDMT).
touringplans.com estimates that SDMT has an average hourly capacity of between 1500-to-1600 riders per hour. At 1600/hour, that translates into 22,400 riders in a 14-hour day (9-to-11).
The Magic Kingdom's (MK) average daily attendance is over 50K, leaving most Guests frustrated at not being able to ride SDMT.
Meanwhile, the MK's attendance is up about 5%, translating into an extra 2500 Guests. Guests don't ride a single attraction and leave; they ride multiple attractions. Assuming a relatively modest 10 rides per day at MK, that works out to 25,000 extra riders.
Attractions such as the SDMT and Frozen meet-and-greets add capacity but they often fail to keep up with increased demand.
The same phenomenon could happen at Disney's Animal Kingdom (DAK) and Disney's Hollywood Studios (DHS) as new lands are added. New attractions will draw more Guests, almost certainly making the parks feel more crowded.
A goal of the upcoming additions at these 2 parks is to turn them into full-day parks. Even if total gate clicks increases modestly, these parks will feel more crowded throughout the day since people will stay at them longer.
Crowd levels are the single biggest source of customer dissatisfaction. In order to keep people coming, Disney needs to keep people happy. Disney needs to find ways to make the parks feel less crowded, not more crowded.
Disney needs to increase WDW capacity in a meaningful way in order to relieve some of the strain at the current theme parks, while also adding capacity for future growth, growth that will result in increased revenue and profit.
A fully-realized 5th WDW theme park will add significant Guest capacity to support at least an additional 10 million gate clicks annually. New lands at DAK and DHS are not going to do that.
Yes, DAK and DHS need new lands.
However, by the middle of the next decade, WDW will need a 5th theme park.
Its a win win for Walt Disney, as they do not have to operate the park fully and milk the parks by doing almost nothing.