GiveMeTheMusic
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It's supposed to look like a Christmas ornament?
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It's supposed to look like a Christmas ornament?
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
It's supposed to look like an illustration ripped from the pages of a storybook.
It's supposed to look like an illustration ripped from the pages of a storybook.
Looks more like they ripped it straight from the Wal Mart toy aisle
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
Fortunately, that's not the view guests get of it.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Spoken like someone who does not understand how american business works. If you are going to 'Miss' analyst estimates for profit well
Needed to google that, You mean THIS
http://lostparks.com/china.html
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
I'll just leave this here......
Yes exactly the point - this WOULD have been worth the half billion TWDC blew on NFL, How much did all of HPL cost 300 million or so...
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
But Stock Buybacks make the investors heart flutter....
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
I'll just leave this here......
That is pretty concept art. Did this idea ever make it to any of the mock-ups for the land?
Mike S
Well-Known Member
Not for MK. That's for Tokyo.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
ohhh...gotcha...this makes more sense to me now.
WildcatDen
Well-Known Member
Well, one can plainly see you are some kind of expert.
I am reminded by the gag Gary Burbank used to have on his show that involved reporters. . . "I want to hear my voice, I want to hear my voice. . ." Yeah, that kind of expert.
GiveMeTheMusic
Well-Known Member
Yeah, but the view guests get of it doesn't look like a storybook either. It looks like a tiny castle perched on a rock. As far as design goes, the Beast's castle concept just didn't pan out. Kinda like the giant off-center window in New Orleans Square at DL. It just doesn't work.
GrammieBee
Well-Known Member
Face it. A lot of people just aren't happy unless each land and each park is exactly the way they think it should be with the attractions they think it should have,
My husband and I are a couple of eighty plus kids at heart and enjoy and have enjoyed each land and and park for what it has had to offer over the past forty something years.. Thrill rides, shows, child centered attractions, dark rides, shops,--- you name it, we have seen it, done it, visited it and usually liked it. Could some things always be better? Absolutely; but it really depends on your own point of view. Don't like something? Wait awhile. It is the nature of the beast that all things eventually change.
At this point in time we're too mellow and experinced to be so impassioned about what any land or park could or should be or have. We enjoy it for what it is. Not for what someone else thinks it should be.
My husband and I are a couple of eighty plus kids at heart and enjoy and have enjoyed each land and and park for what it has had to offer over the past forty something years.. Thrill rides, shows, child centered attractions, dark rides, shops,--- you name it, we have seen it, done it, visited it and usually liked it. Could some things always be better? Absolutely; but it really depends on your own point of view. Don't like something? Wait awhile. It is the nature of the beast that all things eventually change.
At this point in time we're too mellow and experinced to be so impassioned about what any land or park could or should be or have. We enjoy it for what it is. Not for what someone else thinks it should be.
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sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
No, but the entire forest area, leading up to the cottage, the magic mirror, the well-done AAs, they are more interactive and immersive than Disney had previously done, at least in it's US parks (I say this because I have no personal experience outside of the US parks).
No, though it does help with capacity, and the water is nice, but the fact that it exists in it's own Circus Themed mini-land sure is pretty immersive. The tent waiting area is more interactive than a queue had been previously. The new train station, water area, all of this placemaking is far beyond what had previously been done for any Dumbo attraction, or Fantasyland attraction.
The fact that it is a clone (of the inside ride experience, not of the entire attraction) has no bearing on it's quality. It is by leaps and bounds the best, most immersive Fantasyland-style dark ride (again, knowingly speaking only of US parks because YouTube is not equivalent, so I have no experience based facts to judge against). The entire area surrounding it is both immersive and interactive as well. Interactive queue elements, fully immersed in the story of Little Mermaid from the moment you walk to the area.
Of course, this doesn't count the interesting (and short) mix of family coaster with dark-ride elements that add another entire element to Fantasyland.
In my opinion, the claims they made were a bit overhyped for what ended up, but not massively so. My personal expectations going into New Fanstasyland were met quite well. Yours seemingly where not. Either way I dont blaim(?) anything on setting massively unrealized expectations. They added a large footprint of enjoyable attractions, dining, shopping, and place-making to Fantasyland. They did so in immersive and interactive ways, much more so than what existed in Fantasyland previously.
I realize that there is a large group of people that did not like New Fantasyland because of personal reasons, they don't have young children, they wanted a longer roller-coaster, they like what Comcast did up the street better. That is fine, opinions are ok. But to say that they didn't deliver anything to back feels very incorrect to me.
GiveMeTheMusic
Well-Known Member
I enjoy things for what they are as well, but when the cost for experiencing these things exceeds their quality, I demand better or stop paying.
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
And which one of those things is it not? It is your expectations that make it less then you think it should be. And, for heavens sake, what the hell difference does it make if Mermaid is a Clone? If you haven't traveled to California to experience it, it is better then fine and only some wild, out of the butt theory/ridiculous secret desire, makes the clone part have any negativity at all. If you look around you, especially in Fantasyland all you see are clones. Well, except 7DMT, but, that isn't scary enough to get ones adrenaline pumping, so it's not good enough. I know we are talking about Fantasyland, but, for just a moment let's get real!
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
The last paragraph says it all.... "I'm not going to sit through a kids show voluntarily... I'd rather it have been a dark ride". This is all about you isn't it. The devil to the kids... you want it to be different! To bad... life isn't like that and you are not the majority, so, what you see is what you get.
I just quoted this part to save space. You make fair points and I dont disagree. NFL is nice, I enjoy it or what it is. Im glad they built it. I was speaking more about how I truly thought Disney would unveil something better, thats all. Considering how long the entire project took, I really thought we would be in for something half as good as they were hyping. I went in with reasonable expectations. I left feeling it was a nice addition, but nothing more. Our first time seeing it we rode Little Mermaid, looked around the circus for about 20 minutes and we were done. Nothing in NFL makes me want to go there as soon as we enter MK. For being the biggest expansion in its history, it should have that "something", but it does not (for me at least). I quoted @Goofyernmost to reply that I did indeed feel they over hyped and under delivered. FWIW, I have yet to visit Potter at Uni and am in no rush. However, just from looking at videos/pictures and considering budget, time frame, theme and immersiveness...I think they beat disney at their game. They beat them to a bloody pulp
spacemt354
Chili's
Why are you being so aggressive?
Is it not the majority to want to have experiences that I can share with the whole family? Naturally parks have places just for kids, but to claim that Fantasyland should be just for kids...I don't understand that logic whatsoever.