The Spirit Takes the Fifth ...

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Hakunamatata

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This is my 6th Christmas season since 2004. This falls below average in my book, even at mk.

Just checking the phased close history documented by Steve over the years suggests that while it was busy here, it did not approach historic levels.

Keep in mind, TDO touted last years crowds as "historic"...
I wonder if it could be that Christmas fell on a Wednesday. I know where I work we get a half day Christmas eve and Christmas day. It requires people to then take a day and a half vacation to tie into that prior weekend. That hurts what would otherwise be a four day weekend.
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
Well the low numbers were for morning.... No idea what the day totals were.

I only find out this stuff randomly

They were strange all day. At times it seemed packed and at times it was dead. By 8:30 only Peter Pan, BTMRR and SM had lines and the MK was open until 1am. If you went 10:30 to close you could likely go on every ride you wanted.
 

71jason

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I wonder if it could be that Christmas fell on a Wednesday. I know where I work we get a half day Christmas eve and Christmas day. It requires people to then take a day and a half vacation to tie into that prior weekend. That hurts what would otherwise be a four day weekend.

With closing today, wondering if instead people who normally wait until 12/26 (probably the plurality of holiday guests) instead waited until the weekend.
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
Probably by afternoon but you cant pay me enough to go there today.

The weather is kinda crappy, cool, cloudy but the guests showed up.

Yeah I'm in my room right now after some early EPCOT showcase shopping. There was a very beautiful French girl at Boulangerie today, I wish I could talk to her. Damn these crowds! Lol
 

luv

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Christmas Day, we spent over an hour just to get through the toll booth. And when we got up to it, they were purposely slow. They were making conversation with people and just moving slowly, not acting at all like people who had traffic backed way up and were trying to move it through quickly. I'm not complaining, just observing. It was so obvious that they were moving slowly on purpose. (I was just happy we got to go in!)

For the first time, my AP was run through a machine (I actually thought of the PhotoDave thread about that while he did it, lol) and I was asked for ID. Going into Epcot was no problem when we went there later on. Zipped right through, like always.

The park was very crowded on Chrsitmas. Jingle Cruise had a two hour wait. Lines for the restrooms got long...well, the Ladies' Room, anyway. I didn't ask about the men's room, but they were waiting on me when I came out. Men never seem to have to wait. Long lines for water. Just long lines all over.

We still had a great time, though. :)
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
Christmas Day, we spent over an hour just to get through the toll booth. And when we got up to it, they were purposely slow. They were making conversation with people and just moving slowly, not acting at all like people who had traffic backed way up and were trying to move it through quickly. I'm not complaining, just observing. It was so obvious that they were moving slowly on purpose. (I was just happy we got to go in!)

For the first time, my AP was run through a machine (I actually thought of the PhotoDave thread about that while he did it, lol) and I was asked for ID. Going into Epcot was no problem when we went there later on. Zipped right through, like always.

The park was very crowded on Chrsitmas. Jingle Cruise had a two hour wait. Lines for the restrooms got long...well, the Ladies' Room, anyway. I didn't ask about the men's room, but they were waiting on me when I came out. Men never seem to have to wait. Long lines for water. Just long lines all over.

We still had a great time, though. :)

I've noticed reduced bus service to MK. They likely want to slow the waves of people and encourage other parks.
 
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PeterAlt

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Sorry to change the subject, but my ADD has me thinking... I just realized that the money they spent so far on NextGen could have built a Fifth Gate... Or given all the fixes us Disney freaks only dream about... I just had to bring that up... Sorry that I had to interrupt... Carry on...
 

Funmeister

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Sorry to change the subject, but my ADD has me thinking... I just realized that the money they spent so far on NextGen could have built a Fifth Gate... Or given all the fixes us Disney freaks only dream about... I just had to bring that up... Sorry that I had to interrupt... Carry on...

Actually a fifth and a sixth gate based on the $1b+ price tag. I know it it probably more than that but DAK was built for $800m and a lot of that went to backstage animal support areas.
 

PeterAlt

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Actually a fifth and a sixth gate based on the $1b+ price tag. I know it it probably more than that but DAK was built for $800m and a lot of that went to backstage animal support areas.
Inflation is an important factor. $100 million used to buy an E-ticket. Today, they're spending $500 million on E-ticket "lands" (Cars Land, FLE, Avatar). If you remove all but the E/D tickets and gift shops, you might get the cost down to around $350 million, but that's still 3.5 times more than Splash Mountain, Tower of Terror, and M:S, for example.
 

Funmeister

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Inflation is an important factor. $100 million used to buy an E-ticket. Today, they're spending $500 million on E-ticket "lands" (Cars Land, FLE, Avatar). If you remove all but the E/D tickets and gift shops, you might get the cost down to around $350 million, but that's still 3.5 times more than Splash Mountain, Tower of Terror, and M:S, for example.

Remember one thing...$100m used to buy an E-ticket designed and developed by Walt Disney Imagineering. Imagineering is a huge part on why the prices are so high.
 

PeterAlt

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Remember one thing...$100m used to buy an E-ticket designed and developed by Walt Disney Imagineering. Imagineering is a huge part on why the prices are so high.
I'm confused. You're saying that WDI has jacked their rates higher than the rate of inflation? If Ma Disney owns them, they can control them - and their rates... right? If not, explain.
 
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