The Park Formerly Known as Disney's Hollywood Studios? Yep ...

[WeLComeHomE OKW]

Six Flags actually bought a copy of Rock 'n Rollercoaster...

The ride system/track or the immersive theming on the inside and the story it features?

One does not equal the other. I'm not sure you understand what immersion or storytelling is.

 

[Kman101]

I agree, come on, Hulk is not the most amazing themed out there. Let's be real here. And a freefall is a freefall.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The ride system/track or the immersive theming on the inside and the story it features?

One does not equal the other. I'm not sure you understand what immersion or storytelling is.

You're delusional if you think Rock 'n Rollercoaster is immersion. It's a roller coaster in the dark.

 

[WeLComeHomE OKW]

You're delusional if you think Rock 'n Rollercoaster is immersion. It's a roller coaster in the dark.

It sets you up in a record studio, you get to tour where all the magic happens. You see various studios in the middle of recording, and all the artists who have been there before. You have the opportunity to see Aerosmith, of all famous rock bands, in the studio working. They decide they want to bring you with them to their concert and give you the VIP experience, but, it wouldn't be rock n' roll unless they gave you the ultimate experience. You leave the studio, and you're in the back alley. Every little thing is detailed. Street signs, the garage. The limo pulls up, as if it's coming out of the garage, ready to take you. They turn on Aerosmith in the car, and as you speed off into the night, you speed through the expressway, passing signs noting you're on your way to the big show. It's an intense ride, you narrowly avoid a semi as you dash to make the concert in time. Once you arrive, traffic signs show you to slow down, and when you land, you're on the red carpet, truly receiving the VIP experience as promised, and as you walk through the turnstiles, you watch aerosmith perform live on an array of monitors.

That is a FULLY featured story, immersion, and says exactly what it meant to say.

What's Hulk's story? Hulk mad...Roller coaster?

Any coaster is just a coaster, it's what you do with it and how you make the story clear from start to finish. That's immersion.

 

[WeLComeHomE OKW]

Thank you for the insightful study of my language and the subversive meaning behind it. Since it isn't so obvious, apparently, let me make it easy for you: I'm not siding with anyone, I'm pointing out a fact. My argument is coming from what exactly? I'm a UNI plant? I'm what exactly... what is it that you had to pull up the old Seinfeld, "not that there's anything wrong with that"? If I was a UNI fanboy I wouldn't waste my time here, I'd be on OU... I'm rooting for WDW but I don't sugarcoat my feelings or criticisms. If there's any cynicism in my posts in regards to how WDW works I assure you it doesn't come from rooting against them, or for UNI, it is well deserved and from my own experience and my opinions that a far from biased... if anything, I'm biased for WDW but hold them to the standard they created. When you're catching up to a competitors ride that is a decade old, which is what you're saying they're doing now, then yeah, it does say a lot ... and why I said what I did.

You are missing all of the subtlety of what I'm saying and assuming the absolute worst out of how I'm saying everything. I'm not yelling at you, or saying you're an absolute fool.

I'm simply saying you assumed better out of Universal than Disney, which shows some level of bias in the most standard definition of that word.

Bias - cause to feel or show inclination or prejudice for or against someone or something.

And, again, that's fine. I'm glad you hold Disney to a high standard. I'm not sarcastically saying it's fine and I'm sorry if the all CAPS on fine made you think that, or think I have all this anger towards you or something. I was merely emphasizing the word, because, preferences are preferences. You don't have to be so argumentative about it.

I don't appreciate being patronized or name-called, and that type of debating is uncalled for. You clearly stated a bias, I pointed it out because you can't debate assumptions. It's like debating what I might eat tomorrow. You could know what I ate yesterday, and start debating me. I could start debating you about what I think I want. But, has it happened? Nope, so, it's pointless. I can't debate that Universal won't build the best thing since slice bread, because I don't know. I can point out Disney's recent trend to create more quality products, whether east coast or west. I can point out they're beginning to start producing quality again, and I can only hope that trend will continue.

Something we can't debate: I think Disney will produce awesome stuff for this re-do. You hope they do, but, they haven't proven anything to you to suggest that this is a guarantee. You think Universal is kicking butt, and I think Harry Potter rules but they still have a lot of work to do. These are our opinions, and I'm happy we each have them. We can debate quality in the past, but, not some unknown future where all we have are rumors, tealeaves, and biases of our own.

Now for the sarcasm: Thank you for grabbing all the context from my statements and turning them into snide remarks. /s

 

[lazyboy97o]

It sets you up in a record studio, you get to tour where all the magic happens. You see various studios in the middle of recording, and all the artists who have been there before. You have the opportunity to see Aerosmith, of all famous rock bands, in the studio working. They decide they want to bring you with them to their concert and give you the VIP experience, but, it wouldn't be rock n' roll unless they gave you the ultimate experience. You leave the studio, and you're in the back alley. Every little thing is detailed. Street signs, the garage. The limo pulls up, as if it's coming out of the garage, ready to take you. They turn on Aerosmith in the car, and as you speed off into the night, you speed through the expressway, passing signs noting you're on your way to the big show. It's an intense ride, you narrowly avoid a semi as you dash to make the concert in time. Once you arrive, traffic signs show you to slow down, and when you land, you're on the red carpet, truly receiving the VIP experience as promised, and as you walk through the turnstiles, you watch aerosmith perform live on an array of monitors.

That is a FULLY featured story, immersion, and says exactly what it meant to say.

What's Hulk's story? Hulk mad...Roller coaster?

Any coaster is just a coaster, it's what you do with it and how you make the story clear from start to finish. That's immersion.

It seems you just do not pay attention. All of that sort of stuff is there with The Incredible Hulk and Dragon Challenge.

 

[WeLComeHomE OKW]

It seems you just do not pay attention. All of that sort of stuff is there with The Incredible Hulk and Dragon Challenge.

Okay, I'm willing to listen. Can you walk me through it like I walked through Rockin' Roller Coaster? I'm genuinely curious.

EDIT: I also find it slightly Humorous that you say I don't pay attention directly after I provided a detailed explanation of the entire rock n roller coaster experience from memory.

 

[Next Big Thing]

IOA
Spider-Man
Hulk
Dr. Doom's Fearfall
Popeye
Dudley Do-Right
Kong
JPRA
FJ
Dragon Challenge
Cat in the Hat

DHS (after the makeover)
GMR
Star Tours
Star Wars E-ticket (unknown)
TSMM
Pixar D/E-ticket (unknown)
ToT
RnRC


I did not include anything rumored. Flat rides, shows, walkthroughs and play areas also are not included.

IOA will have 10 D/E-tickets by 2016. DHS may have 7 by 2020. IOA also isn't finished adding things - there's the plot next to Cat, Lost Continent as a whole, Toon Lagoon's front area, Trikes plot and the underutilized Discovery Center... not saying Disney isn't doing something good. But unless this DHS makeover adds 3 more D/E tickets, it is not equal with IOA.

Counting Dr. Doom as a D/E is really pushing it. Worst drop tower i've ever been on. It's pointless to even go on. The whole point of a drop tower is for the thrill. There is very little thrill on that ride. Falcon's Fury on the other hand (or even one at Six Flags New England I went on was pretty good).

 

[Next Big Thing]

I said D/E ticket.

11 vs. 8 (9 if Pixar gets a second major new attraction). But that also doesn't include potential additions to IOA beyond Kong (which will happen at their current pace).

You do realize Kong is the first TRUE expansion of the park since it opened, right?

 

[cheezbat]

You do realize Kong is the first TRUE expansion of the park since it opened, right?

Did you forget about Forbidden Journey? That was a brand new ride on an expansion pad...so Kong is technically the second.

 

[Next Big Thing]

Did you forget about Forbidden Journey? That was a brand new ride on an expansion pad...so Kong is technically the second.

Fair point. I just think of most of WWoHP as a retheme of what was there prior. Obviously FJ was an expansion of the area though, so you're right.

 

[dman1373]

Can anybody show the possible expansions overtop of a aerial or something

 

[Trauma]

So I was reading a post earlier that said that Popeyes is on the same level of splash mountain.

Now you can hate on Disney as much as you want there is plenty to dislike but your comparing one of the greatest themed attractions of all time to Popeyes?

Yeah and Dr. Dooms is comparable to ToT.

There are many rides at Universal that could be said to rival or surpass anything Disney has ever done but comparing 6 flags rides with below average theming to Disney classics is pathetic blind fanboyism.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Who said Popeye was as good as Splash Mountain?

Nevermind, found the post. You won't ever see me agreeing with that statement.

 

[stevehousse]

It's no where near as great as Splash, but it sure beats AKs river rapids ride...

 

[Trauma]

It's no where near as great as Splash, but it sure beats AKs river rapids ride...

This is correct.

But splash? I almost fell out of my chair laughing.

 

[Next Big Thing]

Popeye's isn't as good as Splash, but it sure as hell is a lot better than Ripsaw falls. That thing is an embarrassment to the park. Completely half-arsed, very little in terms of theming and always very noticeably dusty.

It is definitely better than Kali River Rapids though. Although it depends how wet you want to get. Sometimes you can get soaked on Kali, sometimes come off pretty dry. Almost everyone who walks off of popeye's is Drenched. I'd recommend a bathing suit.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

It's no where near as great as Splash, but it sure beats AKs river rapids ride...

Splash is fantastic, i'd easily place it among the top rides ever built. IMHO it's up there with Pirates (Disneyland and Paris versions of Pirates) as the best water based rides anywhere.

Shame Tiger River never got built, that would have probably blown any rapids ride away had they gone ahead with the full concept (though the original form really wasn't a traditional sort of raft ride, boats took more after Jurassic Park and was supposed to be a real safari ride). Though even Kali wouldn't be THAT bad had it been a good 2-3 times longer (still not much of a fan of this type of ride system anyways though).

 

[mahnamahna101]

I just said Popeye was UP THERE with Splash Mountain... obviously Splash is the best-themed. But there's not a single rapids ride in the world as fun or as high-quality as Popeye. Have no idea why people consider it Six Flags-quality.

 

[mahnamahna101]

Okay, I'm willing to listen. Can you walk me through it like I walked through Rockin' Roller Coaster? I'm genuinely curious.

EDIT: I also find it slightly Humorous that you say I don't pay attention directly after I provided a detailed explanation of the entire rock n roller coaster experience from memory.

Dueling Dragons' queue already tops RnRC in theming. I'd recommend looking pictures up. Even with the HP retheme, it's still solid. But RnRC and DC both have equally unthemed ride experiences. Cardboard cutouts and an Aerosmith song isn't theming. Revenge of the Mummy tops both in the theming department.

You know for someone that complains about Disney "hate" and Uni "fanboyism", you seem to be shilling for one of Disney's poorly themed E-tickets. RnRC is "fun" like Hulk and DC... but the facade is a gray building, and the ride experience a coaster in the dark. Turn on the lights and it's just as barren as Uni's coasters.