The Park Formerly Known as Disney's Hollywood Studios? Yep ...

DznyGrlSD

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In the Parks
Yes
14 pages already and the Spirit hasn't come back to follow-up. I am VERY happy to see DHS getting some MUCH needed love. I wish EPCOT was getting the love 1st but I'll take ANYthing at this point.

@WDW1974 any timeline yet? I doubt it but I gotta ask.

Here's my wish list:
-Get RID of the BAH
-Significant Star Wars presence in the park - how, where and what - I don't know
-More Muppets
-Keep Osborne lights (please!!!!)
-Improve on, or get rid of the backlot tour


Anyone have aerial shots of how much land is available once they get rid of Indy? Aren't there also talks to get rid of Lights, Motors Action? What about the backlot tour?
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
14 pages already and the Spirit hasn't come back to follow-up. I am VERY happy to see DHS getting some MUCH needed love. I wish EPCOT was getting the love 1st but I'll take ANYthing at this point.

@WDW1974 any timeline yet? I doubt it but I gotta ask.

Here's my wish list:
-Get RID of the BAH
-Significant Star Wars presence in the park - how, where and what - I don't know
-More Muppets
-Keep Osborne lights (please!!!!)
-Improve on, or get rid of the backlot tour


Anyone have aerial shots of how much land is available once they get rid of Indy? Aren't there also talks to get rid of Lights, Motors Action? What about the backlot tour?
Agreed on Muppets, hat and lights. No improve, just get rid of tour. Very much yes to SW too.

There is an expansion area behind Indy that could be used as well. All the way out into the parking lot. There is a lot of land. I have faith that someone will post a picture.
 

Hrudey3032

Well-Known Member
While I can appreciate Star Wars and Cars - I hope they do not doaway with classics like The Great Movie Ride, Beauty and the Beast and Ariel shows, Fantasmic!, Muppets. Everything else can be dumped.

So your classics are to others just stuff that can be dumped and Muppets and Fantasmic are classics to them.
 

Beholder

Well-Known Member
So your classics are to others just stuff that can be dumped and Muppets and Fantasmic are classics to them.

You bring up a good point, what do they keep and what do they drop? And why? Is it only based on attendance? Maintenance costs? Of course, once you allow people's personal feelings into it, emotions will make for some serious conflicts. For myself, and I'm just speculating if course, ToT, RnR, ST and TSMM are pretty much safe, the rest, who knows?
 

Hrudey3032

Well-Known Member
You bring up a good point, what do they keep and what do they drop? And why? Is it only based on attendance? Maintenance costs? Of course, once you allow people's personal feelings into it, emotions will make for some serious conflicts. For myself, and I'm just speculating if course, ToT, RnR, ST and TSMM are pretty much safe, the rest, who knows?

Someone is always going to be upset when they remove a ride or show. We all have our favorites. Some see the parks as stale while others are blown away everytime they go. There really doesn't seem like there will ever be a happy medium because someone will always be upset about something.
 

Maerj

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Been thinking about this and here's what I think they *could* do...

This is going to be the Star Wars theme park and it will open in stages. SW will begin taking over around the area near Star Tours. They could move The Muppets to Epcot... I can see Imagination starring The Muppets!

I think that most of the other attractions would be up on the chopping block. A select few could be moved, for example, Toy Story Midway Mania could be moved to...

Pixar Land in the Magic Kingdom, which would replace Tomorrowland. They already have the Laugh Floor, this could replace the Buzz Lightyear attraction. They could replace the Stitch attraction with a Wall*E Robot Factory and redo the Speedway into a mini Cars land. Maybe Space Mountain could be the new Buzz Lightyear ride or the Monsters Inc ride? Unfortunately, Carousel of Progress would have to go BUT they could move it to a Progress theme pavilion at Epcot.

The only other 'big' attraction at the Studios would be the Tower of Terror. What to do with that? It's very popular... could it be moved to the MK somewhere? Could it be rethemed to a Jabba's Palace attraction where he hits the button, sending you down to the Rancor?

Anyway, just a thought of what they could possibly be up to. :)
 

lazyboy97o

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Someone is always going to be upset when they remove a ride or show. We all have our favorites. Some see the parks as stale while others are blown away everytime they go. There really doesn't seem like there will ever be a happy medium because someone will always be upset about something.
Disney has only really created a problem when they stopped clearly improving on what was replaced compounded by so much being removed without replacement.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Someone is always going to be upset when they remove a ride or show. We all have our favorites. Some see the parks as stale while others are blown away everytime they go. There really doesn't seem like there will ever be a happy medium because someone will always be upset about something.
Disney has only really created a problem when they stopped clearly improving on what was replaced compounded by so much being removed without replacement.
I think some people will always be upset when anything is removed. No matter what it is. Even AIE got some love in the thread about its closure. Whether the vast majority of people get upset is dependent on what the replacement is. If it's nothing (like a lot of the closures in the recent past) than most will be upset. If it's something better only a few die hard fans of the original will be upset. If Indy closes for a Star Wars e-ticket the vast majority of people will stand and applaud. Same as when backlot tour was rumored to be closing to make room for Carlsland.
 

rwilliam4700

New Member
I did some researching and the cars land space is almost identical to the back lot tour and the lights motor show...
California Adventure space = Roughly 519,706 Sq ft.
Disney's Hollywood Studios = Roughly 522,720 Sq ft.
How Ironic...
Disney Cali.jpg
Disney Hollywood Studios.jpg
 
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Hrudey3032

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Disney has only really created a problem when they stopped clearly improving on what was replaced compounded by so much being removed without replacement.

I don't disagree with you but I am saying there are those out there that don't see what you or I or the bulk of the posters on this board notice.
 

erasure fan1

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Disney has only really created a problem when they stopped clearly improving on what was replaced compounded by so much being removed without replacement.
Exactly. While I hate to see any of my favorite rides/attractions get replaced (I wish we could keep them all) I have no issue with it as long as the replacement is a step forward and not just a cost cutting measure. See imagination as what not to do. And if you take a ride down (like 20k) don't wait over 20yrs to replace it. Hrudey3032 is correct, someone will always be upset. But if you replace something with a top notch effort the type of upset people will get is different in my opinion.
 

Beholder

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Personally, they started going wrong when they began deviating from the parks original purpose, theme, whatever made it a "concept" to begin with. A coherent tradition from attraction to attraction based on a common idea. DHS and EPCOT are clearly (for me) the worst off. This hodgepodge of attractions stacked on top of one another with no clear or stated "reason" for doing so creates an uneven experience. The state fair does this. Six flags does this. WDW should never do this. It's symptomatic of a business model that has abandoned story for maximizing revenue. I have never really understood the business world but I do know that profit takes center stage in decisions now so more than ever. I'm not commenting on the good or bad of this, BUT the obvious repercussion if this is what we have at DHS. A bunch of unrelated attractions without a clear, thematic transition from one area to another. It's a mess. To fix this, I have to believe a serious make-over is needed. I wouldn't at all be opposed to shutting it down for a year or two, fix it, reopen with a fresh new mission and name. I know, I know, it'll never be that way, but this is just thinking out loud anyway.
 

SirLink

Well-Known Member
For all you people playing "Blue Sky:The home game".... Ask yourself this - what the cheapest option that brings in the most revenue.

Therein will lie your answers.....

Is there anything cheap with WDI? The correct answer would be create a park to be the size and scope of Disneyland but focusing on non-traditional Disney IP. i.e. Star Wars/Muppets/Pixar/Indy.

Honest answer better movement of people and enough back of the house facilities to enable Star Wars Weekends/Pixar Weekends - why is that not a thing yet/Osbourne

P.S. I know its a rhetorical question Dave ;)
 

Mr. Moderate

Well-Known Member
Disney has only really created a problem when they stopped clearly improving on what was replaced compounded by so much being removed without replacement.

I agree with you here and Disney management has only themselves to blame on the poor, stale condition of this park. Letting it languish and get to the state it is in, goes to show that the current leadership didn't see or want to see that the park was needing work and updating for the longest. Kind of reminds me of years ago how DCA's very apparent problems and short comings was ignored for years and dismissed by the company, until they forced by low attendance numbers to admit that a fix was needed. This is what happens when greed and apathy is the accepted way of doing things by the those in charge and just coasting along is good enough.

I hate how DHS or whatever it will be called, has fallen into the state it is currently in and any Disney fan who cares about the parks, should be just as disappointed as I am. For a company that was known for pushing the envelope and making the parks a unique and special place from anything else out there, they have really dropped the ball and there's just no disguising or defending it anymore. So much needs to be done and it's maddening to think what Disney could do and has the money and talent to get it done, but is just sitting on their hands with no sense of urgency. That's one thing I give USO credit for and like about them right now. They have been building new attractions and resorts at a rapid pace and giving the guests more options. It's sad that it will be years before anything good and creative (also non DVC) will be opening for us at WDW.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
They could move The Muppets to Epcot... I can see Imagination starring The Muppets!

Actually, I really could see that working. The 3-D theater would need some massive changes to accommodate Muppetvision (not even sure height wise if it would be possible, someone like Martin would have to weigh in on that), but then we could finally get a Muppets dark ride (and really, the Muppets fit perfectly with Imagination). I could so see them including Figment, as well (can't you see him and Gonzo being BFFs? LOL).

I don't think it would ever happen, but that sure would be cool. :)
 

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