EPCOT Explorer
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Maybe Nemo isn't working.:drevil::lol::lookaroun
And there's so much potential in EPCOT....Finish SSE, JII, UoE...TT....There's a ton to be done.
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Maybe Nemo isn't working.:drevil::lol::lookaroun
And there's so much potential in EPCOT....Finish SSE, JII, UoE...TT....There's a ton to be done.
SirGoofy
Member
False.:lookaroun
Epcot is by far the best park on property, IMO. The other 3 need much more help than EPCOT.
jt04
Well-Known Member
OK, I think I understand what the deal is with Barnstormer. It appears it is being kept as a sort of mini-toontown while the current area is closed for Phase 1. It could even have some "temporary" M&G's (fab 5) in that area since the MK will need the capacity. It's interesting to note that BaTB-land and LM-land and Dumbo-land can all be built without shutting anything of consequence down. Also, the same for Cindy and SB stuff and PH. This project is much easier than the DCA makeover from a logistical point of view. In the end however I think barnstormer will be removed or rethemed. If it's going to be a Dwarves mine theme, wouldn't it need to be enclosed like a mini RnRC type concept? :shrug:
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
In terms of new things, yes. But do the new things work? Eh.
Aesthetically, EPCOT needs a TON of help, though.
SirGoofy
Member
EH, again I disagree. Other than the Innoventions plaza, it's the best looking park behind Animal Kingdom. And that's a relatively inexpensive fix. As an EPCOT fanboy, I'd love to see JII, but really there are so many more glaring holes across property that need attention before EPCOT.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Entrance Plaza, Innoventions Plaza, FW East and some transitional areas of WS are in DIRE need of new plants, and a cleaner look. FW West is the only area that's perfect, to me.:shrug:
As for JII...I don't mind the ride, but want a new one ASAP. You claim to hate the ride, but don't want a new JII right away...What gives, Goof?:lol:
SirGoofy
Member
Oh, don't get me wrong. I loath the ride with all my heart. But, I just think there are many more problem areas in the parks. DAK needs an expansion. DHS needs many smaller additions to complete it. MK needs 2 e-tickets, 1 thrill and 1 dark ride.
Sure I would love for the JII project to move forward, but I think other things need to be done before my fanboy wish can come true.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
:ROFLOL::lol::ROFLOL:
I'm thrilled to hear it.:lookaroun:lol::lol:
I agree with your expansion ideas though. From the looks of it, MK is going to be fine after FL makes it's way in with TLM and the rest of it. Even though it's just M?G, it looks fairly immersive and impressive. I for one, would expect FL to come, and then several smaller things, such as refurbs, come after. Maaaaayyybe, a TL Refurb or a AL Refurb several years later.
EPCOT might run concurrent with it. Hopefully it's JII and then projects following.
Even more hopefully, I would think that FL, JII and the MGM Projects will be for a certain date in the future. Smaller projects could come later if they wanted to celebrate for a longer time. Or, perhaps....EPCOT's 30th.
As for MGM and DAK, I think MGM is covered. ST and MI will be nice and though small, do well for the parks image.
DAK, though?
The way things look to me, it's a all or nothing. Either they get a HUGE land, or they don't. I really don't see how, or where they could jut tag a bunch of small things in. That tends to make me believe that it will be the last to come about. In the other parks, everything seems easier to build onto...in DAK? Notsomuch. That's just personal convictions though.:shrug:EDITED for more random and optimistic thoughts, that will most likely never happen.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Our last trip... the kids insisted we kept returning to DHS. We only went to EPCOT for future world, and only went into WS once for dinner. We went to DHS THREE TIMES in a single trip.
DHS gets a bad rap in the 'disney internet expert circle' but in reality it has great attractions that many people like.
Lee
Adventurer
Massive? Don't know if I would put it that way.
Delays? Yeah. Been hearing that for quite some time.
EpcotServo
Well-Known Member
As a PASSHOLDER? As a Park?
1.
Studios has everything I want to see in a day. Thrill Rides, Dark Rides I love, two rides I always have to ride (Star Tours + Muppets) and Several shows I enjoy watching, plus great scenery and plenty of things to hold my interest and take pictures of. Plus Studios Cast Members are the best Cast Members in the Disney World!
2.
Epcot is the best way to spend any evening. Pleasant walk around the countries on a cool evening, maybe a ride or two on Spaceship Earth or Mission Space. A concert perhaps, and some shopping at Japan. That's what I call a perfect evening!
3.
Animal Kingdom is a nice afternoon. A ride on Everest, stop by and see the tigers. And it's close to off-property restaurants for dinner!
[COMBO NOTE: Combine with #2 for Ultra Evening Killer Combo!!]
4.
Magic Kingdom has rides I love, but without anything major to bring me in, it's just not worth the hassle to get in and the fighting of crowds to warrant TONS of repeat visits.
So really I think this argument is moot...the only park I think needs cosmetic and attraction help is kingdom, only you guys bad talk about the two great other parks.
1.
Studios has everything I want to see in a day. Thrill Rides, Dark Rides I love, two rides I always have to ride (Star Tours + Muppets) and Several shows I enjoy watching, plus great scenery and plenty of things to hold my interest and take pictures of. Plus Studios Cast Members are the best Cast Members in the Disney World!
2.
Epcot is the best way to spend any evening. Pleasant walk around the countries on a cool evening, maybe a ride or two on Spaceship Earth or Mission Space. A concert perhaps, and some shopping at Japan. That's what I call a perfect evening!
3.
Animal Kingdom is a nice afternoon. A ride on Everest, stop by and see the tigers. And it's close to off-property restaurants for dinner!
[COMBO NOTE: Combine with #2 for Ultra Evening Killer Combo!!]
4.
Magic Kingdom has rides I love, but without anything major to bring me in, it's just not worth the hassle to get in and the fighting of crowds to warrant TONS of repeat visits.
So really I think this argument is moot...the only park I think needs cosmetic and attraction help is kingdom, only you guys bad talk about the two great other parks.
jt04
Well-Known Member
:ROFLOL::lol::ROFLOL:
I'm thrilled to hear it.:lookaroun:lol::lol:
I agree with your expansion ideas though. From the looks of it, MK is going to be fine after FL makes it's way in with TLM and the rest of FL. I for one, would expect that to come, and then several smaller things come after. Maaaaayyybe, a TL Refurb or a AL Refurb several years later.
As for MGM and DAK, I think MGM is covered. ST and MI will be nice and though small, do well for the parks image.
DAK, though?
Somebody on here once said MI will be Disney's response to HP. While FL seems to be out of necessity. The combination of the two however could really deliver. DHS keeps moving forward while Epcot's future seems the most uncertain for now. I agree with goofy in that it is the least in need of help. New films could go along way in Epcot. Very interesting times!
Lee
Adventurer
Yep.
My family of two certainly will.:drevil:
(But I spend more time at Uni than Epcot anyhow....:lookaroun)
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
As a PASSHOLDER? As a Park?
1.
Studios has everything I want to see in a day. Thrill Rides, Dark Rides I love, two rides I always have to ride (Star Tours + Muppets) and Several shows I enjoy watching, plus great scenery and plenty of things to hold my interest and take pictures of. Plus Studios Cast Members are the best Cast Members in the Disney World!
2.
Epcot is the best way to spend any evening. Pleasant walk around the countries on a cool evening, maybe a ride or two on Spaceship Earth or Mission Space. A concert perhaps, and some shopping at Japan. That's what I call a perfect evening!
3.
Animal Kingdom is a nice afternoon. A ride on Everest, stop by and see the tigers. And it's close to off-property restaurants!
4.
Magic Kingdom has rides I love, but without anything major to bring me in, it's just not worth the hassle to get in and the fighting of crowds to warrant TONS of repeat visits.
So really I think this argument is moot...the only park I think needs cosmetic and attraction help is kingdom, only you guys bad talk about the two great other parks.
I'm pulling a huge case of Disney Ignorance here, but DHS has Dark Rides?
:lookarounWhat are you referring to? TSMM?
EpcotServo
Well-Known Member
I'm pulling a huge case of Disney Ignorance here, but DHS has Dark Rides?
What are you referring to? TSMM?
Midway Mania, Great Movie Ride, and Tower of Terror. (Honestly if you use the term as it's meant to be applied, Coaster and Tower are both Dark Rides AND Thrill Rides. Studios gets a bad Dark Ride rep because people consider them Thrill Rides first.)
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
You and I need to have a very long chat.
:lol:I'll make it edutaining...I promise.:drevil:
I would think they would like it to be, to be honest. However, like I said, it seems to be much harder for them to build something brand new, and huge in time.
FL, on the other hand is easier, because it's already there, in a sense. It just needs revamping.
New films for EPCOT, though...
Oh hai, LwtL....UoE...Even SSE. Perhaps, if they do that, and bring in JII, we might have something.Good thought.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
GMR!:lol::brick:How could I forget the Spaceship Earth of movies?:lookaroun:lol:
I swear, that Hat messes with me.:lol:
Lee
Adventurer
:hurl:You and I need to have a very long chat.
I'll make it edutaining...I promise.:drevil:
Off topic...what the he!! is "hai"? More of that silly internet-babble speak?
:hammer: