The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

TP2000

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Autopia should have a holiday overlay. Imagine a Christmas version of the lights and projections from Villains Grove on all the Autopia trees.

I love the idea of a Christmas overlay for Autopia, especially at night. What about a drive-thru, light-up version of the Happy Honda Days promotion from your local Honda dealer?

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TP2000

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Speaking of Shanghai Disneyland closing again today, I just read this little nugget and realized what a "Guest Relations" nightmare this would have been...

"In November 2021, 34,000 visitors were locked inside after one woman who had been at the park the day prior either later tested positive or came into contact with someone who had it. The facility reopened two days later after everyone had tested negative."


Can you even imagine locking Disneyland down and trapping 34,000 "guests" inside for an undetermined amount of time because one lady who had been there the day before got Covid? o_O :eek: o_O

What is that even like?!? How does that even work?!? How many free churros do they have to comp to keep a riot from breaking out on Main Street?!?

The mind boggles how that works operationally and logistically. Think of the poor CM's. Think of the panicked guests. Think of the publicity if they ever tried that in the USA.
 

TwilightZone

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Gotta love how successful that these cheap looking photo-ops are at getting people to see these movies!
Oh my gosh, I didn't even know that disney parks had a Strange Worlds display until just now. It's just cheap cardboard! At least "sexy buzz" was a meet and greet. They couldn't even bother getting at least one character actor to play one of the main characters?
 

CaptinEO

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If the rumors that Tony actually has a meaningful say in the direction of this project now are true- wouldn't this be his first meaningful project for Disneyland in 10 years?

It's a darn shame this is what they have him working on when his talents could be so much better used than gutting a popular and beloved ride.
He had involvement in Finding Nemo Subs and that turned out terrible. Not hating on Tony, he's one of, if not my favorite imagineer. I'm guessing not even he can stop current WDI from making a bad product. It's not like he has complete control unfortunately.
 

Phroobar

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He had involvement in Finding Nemo Subs and that turned out terrible. Not hating on Tony, he's one of, if not my favorite imagineer. I'm guessing not even he can stop current WDI from making a bad product. It's not like he has complete control unfortunately.
The guy is/was an upper executive manager and/or director. He has a huge team of imagineers working below him. His job is more to report back to even higher executives like Iger. He rubber stamps the end project and takes credit for it. He isn't the one coming up with ideas and approving designs. There are lower project leaders that do that.

Now that he is retired he has even less control over the project. Just because he is involved doesn't mean he is coming up with the ideas and implementing them.
 

CaptinEO

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The guy is/was an upper executive manager and/or director. He has a huge team of imagineers working below him. His job is more to report back to even higher executives like Iger. He rubber stamps the end project and takes credit for it. He isn't the one coming up with ideas and approving designs. There are lower project leaders that do that.

Now that he is retired he has even less control over the project. Just because he is involved doesn't mean he is coming up with the ideas and implementing them.
Seems he is a quite a bit more involved than this from all accounts I've heard. Not saying he does things on his own or doesnt have a huge team to make things possible.
 

Phroobar

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Seems he is a quite a bit more involved than this from all accounts I've heard. Not saying he does things on his own or doesnt have a huge team to make things possible.
From those accounts you heard, those people probably have no clue what an creative executive does. He may be more involved but he definitely isn't drawing concepts, creating story or engineering anything. In a corporation at his level, that isn't the kind of things he does. Think of him as executive producer in a movie. He is managing the production team. He is keeping people on budgets. He is not approving concept art from some artist. That is what the art director does. He is the guy getting the reports from managers showing red lights/green lights on the health of the project.
 

lazyboy97o

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The guy is/was an upper executive manager and/or director. He has a huge team of imagineers working below him. His job is more to report back to even higher executives like Iger. He rubber stamps the end project and takes credit for it. He isn't the one coming up with ideas and approving designs. There are lower project leaders that do that.
No, his job was not to just rubber stamp and take credit. The lead creative is involved in coming up with ideas and does approve designs.
 

Phroobar

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No, his job was not to just rubber stamp and take credit. The lead creative is involved in coming up with ideas and does approve designs.
True. Which is what I said. But he isn't making anything. There are layers of managers and directors between him and that. He is just giving final approval.
 

CaptinEO

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From those accounts you heard, those people probably have no clue what an creative executive does. He may be more involved but he definitely isn't drawing concepts, creating story or engineering anything. In a corporation at his level, that isn't the kind of things he does. Think of him as executive producer in a movie. He is managing the production team. He is keeping people on budgets. He is not approving concept art from some artist. That is what the art director does. He is the guy getting the reports from managers showing red lights/green lights on the health of the project.
I thought he was responsible for many design elements on big thunder specifically. He seems heavily knowledgable on Splash, Star Tours, and Indiana Jones to be simply a paper pusher. Maybe later on in his career he was just in a rubber stamp kind of position.

I know these rides take the work of hundreds of creatives and workers and it's not a one man show. But, I think Tony was involved heavily in these projects.
 

Phroobar

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I thought he was responsible for many design elements on big thunder specifically. He seems heavily knowledgable on Splash, Star Tours, and Indiana Jones to be simply a paper pusher. Maybe later on in his career he was just in a rubber stamp kind of position.

I know these rides take the work of hundreds of creatives and workers and it's not a one man show. But, I think Tony was involved heavily in these projects.
That was earlier in his career when he wasn't an Executive Designer and Vice President, Creative. Do you think a guy with that title and salary would be in the trenches working on design elements? He and Joe Rohde may be totally knowledgeable about the projects they signed off on but they sure missed overly engineered mechanical problems. There are reasons why Splash Mountain, Rocket Rods and the Yeti were/are always broken. Now that they are "semi-retired", it doesn't give them a lot of say.
 

lazyboy97o

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That was earlier in his career when he wasn't an Executive Designer and Vice President, Creative. Do you think a guy with that title and salary would be in the trenches working on design elements? He and Joe Rohde may be totally knowledgeable about the projects they signed off on but they sure missed overly engineered mechanical problems. There are reasons why Splash Mountain, Rocket Rods and the Yeti were/are always broken. Now that they are "semi-retired", it doesn't give them a lot of say.
Artwork from people with such titles has been published. Yes, they absolutely do get involved with design elements.
 

CaptinEO

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That was earlier in his career when he wasn't an Executive Designer and Vice President, Creative. Do you think a guy with that title and salary would be in the trenches working on design elements? He and Joe Rohde may be totally knowledgeable about the projects they signed off on but they sure missed overly engineered mechanical problems. There are reasons why Splash Mountain, Rocket Rods and the Yeti were/are always broken. Now that they are "semi-retired", it doesn't give them a lot of say.
I'm sure they were involved to some extent, but yeah I doubt Tony Baxter was a mechanical or electric engineer.
 

TP2000

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The next few evenings I will be filling out and addressing my Christmas cards. But where's my recipe for a Hot Toddy to get me through that big task? 🎅

Eyvind Earle was a very successful artist who worked in the 1950's and 60's for Walt Disney. Fans here will know the name as he is most famous for doing the art and setting the artistic mood of 1958's Sleeping Beauty. The aesthetic for that film was decidedly a medieval version of mid-century modern (Or Med-Mid-Mod as the kids call it. Not really.) Eyvind Earle was about 40 when he worked on Sleeping Beauty for Walt, and he really had the vibe of the modern times then. Walt loved it.

Eyvind Earle also worked on the Sleeping Beauty Castle Diorama walk-thru at Disneyland, and when Tony Baxter redid that attraction a decade or so ago he went back and restored a lot of Eyvind's original art there. It's fantastic! Anyways...

Eyvind Earle also freelanced as an artist, prior to and during his work with Disney. He had a long line of very successful Christmas cards from the 1940's through the 1960's. All modern takes on classic themes, and inherently stylish and sleek. I've used Eyvind Earle Christmas cards many times in the past, and this year I chose another fun one! This is Eyvind's Christmas card design from 1951. The Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York does a beautiful job of reproducing many of Eyvind's Christmas cards on high quality parchment with very good envelopes.

Next October when you buy your Christmas cards, consider an obscure Disney twist to them and buy Eyvind Earle cards from The Met at their online store. There's also an art gallery up in Carmel By The Sea that specializes in Eyvind Earle art and sells his cards and prints, if you're ever up along that part of the coast.

Here's the Eyvind Earle Christmas card my friends and family will all be getting from me this year, and I send it out to all the gang here as well! 🎄

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brb1006

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And now for more positivity in this thread since Christmas is just around the corner.

Just got done watching my all-time favorite Christmas Special of Rankin/Bass' Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer on CBS that aired last night. Despite the weird edit and shortening of "We're A Couple of Misfits" (which uses footage of the "Fame and Fortune" number), that special never fails to put a smile on my face. FreeForm currently airs the special unedited (no shortening of "We're A Couple of Misfits" and "We Are Santa's Elves"). 😊

To this day, Clarice is my favorite character of the special due to her loyalty with Rudolph and how sweet she is. She still reminds me of my first childhood crush on a girl I used to know during my Kindergarten years. Heck, Clarice and Rudolph's interactions is my favorite moments of the special. 🥰
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Not to mention the beautifully performed "There's Always Tomorrow" number which still makes me tear up in a good way.


For those curious, you can actually meet Rudolph, Clarice, Bumble, and Yukon Cornelius at the Sea World, Sesame Place, and Busch Gardens Theme Parks during the Christmas Season. Alongside Dollywood and Silver Dollar City.

Here's a video of Rudolph, Clarice, and Bumble visiting the East Tennessee Children's Hospital around the Holiday season of 2018 (courtesy of Dollywood).


And here's a cute video of Rudolph and Clarice going out for a date at Stone Mountain Park.


CBS also aired their new Christmas special called "Reindeer in Here" where Adam Devine voices a reindeer named "Blizzard" ("Blizz" for short) after the special's airing this year. For those that missed it, you can watch it on the CBS App or Paramount+.
 

TwilightZone

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I love me a good christmas special! My favorites are the Grinch (all versions, even illumination's) and Frosty (always gets me to tear up just a little). Movies I like the santa clause 2 and 3 (the first one creeps me out a little, can't get over the premise I guess), Elf (though I am still kinda sick of it after my sister had an all day marathon of that movie when I was in high school), Christmas Story, and Nightmare before Christmas.

My "honorary Christmas" movies are the original Wimpy Kid movies, which I always associated with Thanksgiving, even though the third one takes place during the summer lol.

My guilty pleasure movies are Rapsittie Street Kids, a poorly cgi animated movie that is full of hilarious animation errors and Grandma got run over by a reindeer (me and my sister always made sure to watch it on Cartoon Network, so some nostalgia there even though it isn't the greatest).

EDIT: Oh I also loved Clause from netflix. I always forget that movie, even though its very, very good.
 
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GiveMeTheMusic

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The next few evenings I will be filling out and addressing my Christmas cards. But where's my recipe for a Hot Toddy to get me through that big task? 🎅

Eyvind Earle was a very successful artist who worked in the 1950's and 60's for Walt Disney. Fans here will know the name as he is most famous for doing the art and setting the artistic mood of 1958's Sleeping Beauty. The aesthetic for that film was decidedly a medieval version of mid-century modern (Or Med-Mid-Mod as the kids call it. Not really.) Eyvind Earle was about 40 when he worked on Sleeping Beauty for Walt, and he really had the vibe of the modern times then. Walt loved it.

Eyvind Earle also worked on the Sleeping Beauty Castle Diorama walk-thru at Disneyland, and when Tony Baxter redid that attraction a decade or so ago he went back and restored a lot of Eyvind's original art there. It's fantastic! Anyways...

Eyvind Earle also freelanced as an artist, prior to and during his work with Disney. He had a long line of very successful Christmas cards from the 1940's through the 1960's. All modern takes on classic themes, and inherently stylish and sleek. I've used Eyvind Earle Christmas cards many times in the past, and this year I chose another fun one! This is Eyvind's Christmas card design from 1951. The Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York does a beautiful job of reproducing many of Eyvind's Christmas cards on high quality parchment with very good envelopes.

Next October when you buy your Christmas cards, consider an obscure Disney twist to them and buy Eyvind Earle cards from The Met at their online store. There's also an art gallery up in Carmel By The Sea that specializes in Eyvind Earle art and sells his cards and prints, if you're ever up along that part of the coast.

Here's the Eyvind Earle Christmas card my friends and family will all be getting from me this year, and I send it out to all the gang here as well! 🎄

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Sissy that walk, Santa!
 

TP2000

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And now for more positivity in this thread since Christmas is just around the corner.

Just got done watching my all-time favorite Christmas Special of Rankin/Bass' Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer on CBS that aired last night....

Those Rankin/Bass specials stand the test of time. I just love them! And I'd forgotten how cute Clarice is. I'm putting it on my watch list for December now. I don't think I've seen that one in years and years.

Even as I end tonight's session of card addressing and thoughtful, lovely sentiment to friends and family... I must admit that the Christmas spirit doesn't set in with me until around December 15th.

But when it does, watch out! 🎅:cool:

One of my favorite things to do right around the 15th to get things started is playing the DVD of the Dean Martin Christmas Special from 1968. It's now on YouTube in very good quality. So classy, so sweet! And in Living Color!

If you want some traditional 20th century Christmas cheer, complete with go-go dancing Golddigger Girls, fabulous music, and surprise celebrity guests, it's a much watch! It's a great thing to wrap presents to.

 

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