The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

smooch

smooch

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BasiltheBatLord said:
Call me old fashioned but I am super skeptical that any of this VR/Metaverse stuff is going to catch on in a permanent way that people are claiming. As it is currently, it all just looks and feels so gimmicky. I feel like VR and AR in particular has had a lot of false starts the past 10 years.

Watched that Apple Disney trailer and the one feature that did strike me as genuinely useful was the extended display for things like live sports. But are people really going to wear a $3,500 headset in their living room just for that?
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As a VR enjoyer / enthusiast I fully agree. I think this push to add AR to our daily lives is insane, unless Apple is able to fit these features into something like Google Glass (or anything other than literal wired ski goggles with a display on the inside and outside) people won't want to walk around with these goggles on 24/7 (coming from someone who has spent hours in a row in VR). Not only that,

I also think the lockdowns and consequently afterwards when people could go out again they wanted more human interaction after missing it for so long, and all this VR / AR stuff needed to come out during the lockdowns and not years after. AR is never gonna catch on widespread, in my opinion as a zoomer, unless you're not required to cover your face and see the world through cameras and a screen / people only see a 3D projection of your face / eyes.
 
BuzzedPotatoHead89

BuzzedPotatoHead89

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PiratesMansion said:
Now the refurb calendar is getting into my visitation week.

Alice and the Monorail remain on the refurb list.

Soarin' is off the refurb list, but it looks like begining Monday, July 17, TSMM is now on the refurb list.

I repeat my question: what the heck is happening over there in terms of refurbs?!?
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I think because Halloween/Holiday toward the end of the year is considered the true busy season now they are beginning to schedule more refurbs in the summer. Not as bad as the first part of the year in winter/early spring, but still heavy. It also is possible they’re finally catching up on deferred Chapek/COVID maintenance.
 
Communicora

Communicora

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Smooch said:
As a VR enjoyer / enthusiast I fully agree. I think this push to add AR to our daily lives is insane, unless Apple is able to fit these features into something like Google Glass (or anything other than literal wired ski goggles with a display on the inside and outside) people won't want to walk around with these goggles on 24/7 (coming from someone who has spent hours in a row in VR). Not only that,

I also think the lockdowns and consequently afterwards when people could go out again they wanted more human interaction after missing it for so long, and all this VR / AR stuff needed to come out during the lockdowns and not years after. AR is never gonna catch on widespread, in my opinion as a zoomer, unless you're not required to cover your face and see the world through cameras and a screen / people only see a 3D projection of your face / eyes.
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I agree and I don’t even think a google glass form factor is good enough.

There used to be a man who would go to a lot of tech industry events where I live and everyone would call him google glass guy and avoid him, because the idea of him walking around with a camera on his face creeped everyone out.

Heck, the Snapchat Spectacles (v1) I bought as an experiment got used only a couple of times because it was just too weird.
 
Rich T

Rich T

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Communicora said:
I agree and I don’t even think a google glass form factor is good enough.

There used to be a man who would go to a lot of tech industry events where I live and everyone would call him google glass guy and avoid him, because the idea of him walking around with a camera on his face creeped everyone out.

Heck, the Snapchat Spectacles (v1) I bought as an experiment got used only a couple of times because it was just too weird.
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I’m fairly certain that, once it’s convenient and affordable, High-def VR will take off like a rocket and become the visual entertainment equivalent of headphones and game consoles combined.

I’m talking about home/airplane use. It’s going to be revolutionary in individual home entertainment. It’s too amazing an experience not to be successful in that field a few years down the road.

As a norm for social or business use out and about, however… I can’t picture that happening, for many reasons including the ones you mention.

UNLESS… It evolves into the most convenient option. As we’ve witnessed time and again, consumers always vote for convenience.

Those are my thoughts. I predict massive success in several years for AR/VR in home entertainment. Beyond that, it’s entirely up to Apple and others to produce an affordable unit that basically looks like a pair of ordinary sunglasses, and it’s up to software developers to create applications and experiences people cannot resist.

Nothing’s inconceivable. 30 years ago, who’d have predicted tiny rectangular devices in our shirt pockets would hold all our entertainment libraries and become essential tools for navigating daily life?
 
D.Silentu

D.Silentu

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Parteecia said:
I'd like to know how comfortable they are. I had a devil of a time keeping the visor on my head during the Mario Kart ride. It might just be me, sigh.
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It's not, if that helps! I actually was disappointed in the AR on the ride until I realized the headset kept slipping, distorting the visuals.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Rich T said:

This video is what I was waiting for: a great, hands-on reaction and critique from a very down-to-earth, objective real person who tried the device. She answers a lot of questions about what the experience is like and how it’s different from previous VR attempts.
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Microsoft Hololens and their AR glasses has been around for a while. Why is this any improvement outside of it having an Apple logo on it?

Microsoft HoloLens | Mixed Reality Technology for Business

Introducing HoloLens 2, an untethered mixed reality headset that's designed to help you solve real business problems today using intelligent apps and solutions.
www.microsoft.com
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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I feel like we missed a lot of those beautiful, sunny, high 60's to mid 70's days this past winter/spring here in So Cal this year. Seems like we'll going from the overcast days right into the heat.
 
Consumer

Consumer

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mickEblu said:
I feel like we missed a lot of those beautiful, sunny, high 60's to mid 70's days this past winter/spring here in So Cal this year. Seems like we'll going from the overcast days right into the heat.
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That's better than the smoke covered skies over here on the East Coast.
abcnews.go.com

Wildfire smoke and air quality updates: Northeast flights disrupted

Heavy smoke from Canadian wildfires is engulfing the East Coast, creating serious health risks for millions.
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StarWarsGirl

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
Rich T

Rich T

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Phroobar said:
Microsoft Hololens and their AR glasses has been around for a while. Why is this any improvement outside of it having an Apple logo on it?

Microsoft HoloLens | Mixed Reality Technology for Business

Introducing HoloLens 2, an untethered mixed reality headset that's designed to help you solve real business problems today using intelligent apps and solutions.
www.microsoft.com
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I don’t know the ins and out of Microsoft’s product, but the Apple Version is a full-on combination AR/VR work station, movie studio, game console, home theater, all in higher resolution and with better sound, and has all kinds of cutting edge sci-fi-ish bells and whistles—it scans your face and creates a photo realistic realtime animation of you for FaceTiming. You select things with your eyes and open things by tapping your forefinger and thumb together (and your hand can be pretty much anywhere). It actually has enough going on to demonstrate WHY it cost 3,500 bucks.

For me, the most important thing is it’s got higher resolution and better sound and visuals than any previous VR attempt, so I could genuinely experience, say, How to Train Your Dragon in high def crystal clear 3D on an IMAX size screen with full surround sound anytime I want—and without disturbing the neighbors. And it would, I’m assuming, easily and instantly access all of my music and movie purchases. It definitely sounds appealing to someone like me who is already neck-deep in Apple’s ecosystem. Ease of use. Convenience. Making it seamlessly integrate with existing purchases. That’s what they’re aiming for.
 
chadwpalm

chadwpalm

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In the Parks
No
mickEblu said:
I feel like we missed a lot of those beautiful, sunny, high 60's to mid 70's days this past winter/spring here in So Cal this year. Seems like we'll going from the overcast days right into the heat.
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It was raining here in the Bay Area all yesterday morning....and pretty good too. Rain in June is unusual.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Rich T said:
I don’t know the ins and out of Microsoft’s product, but the Apple Version is a full-on combination AR/VR work station, movie studio, game console, home theater, all in higher resolution and with better sound, and has all kinds of cutting edge sci-fi-ish bells and whistles—it scans your face and creates a photo realistic realtime animation of you for FaceTiming. You select things with your eyes and open things by tapping your forefinger and thumb together (and your hand can be pretty much anywhere). It actually has enough going on to demonstrate WHY it cost 3,500 bucks.

For me, the most important thing is it’s got higher resolution and better sound and visuals than any previous VR attempt, so I could genuinely experience, say, How to Train Your Dragon in high def crystal clear 3D on an IMAX size screen with full surround sound anytime I want—and without disturbing the neighbors. And it would, I’m assuming, easily and instantly access all of my music and movie purchases. It definitely sounds appealing to someone like me who is already neck-deep in Apple’s ecosystem. Ease of use. Convenience. Making it seamlessly integrate with existing purchases. That’s what they’re aiming for.
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It's all been done before on other platforms. You can watch a movie on the Oculus or PSVR for years. Just like Disney, Apple likes to pretend they are leaders when actually they are late to the market.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Rich T

Rich T

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Phroobar said:
It's all been done before on other platforms. You can watch a movie on the Oculus or PSVR for years. Just like Disney, Apple likes to pretend they are leaders when actually they are late to the market.
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Dude. Pause the hate (even though Apple seems to just ASK for it often😄).

Did you read what I posted? I have an Oculus. I watch videos on it all the time. The video and audio quality is not great. This new Apple device provides an INSANE step up in quality to theater-level experience.

No one ever said Apple invented VR, AR or buttered toast. It’s the quality, the presentation, the ease of use and the polish. To dunk on them for this is like saying Walt Disney did nothing new with Disneyland; amusement parks existed for decades before, after all.

Of COURSE, they’re going to present themselves as leaders. ALL corporations do that! Ya expect the CEO to stand in front of the world and humbly say, “We took AR and VR, ideas that have been around for awhile, and have improved it to a point we think you might enjoy. Sorry about the price.” ?
 
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