The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[TP2000]

We still have NASA, right?

Getting rockets into space is a problem solved a long time ago, right?

So celebrating failure for a solved problem doesn't make any sense to me.

Are you unfamiliar with the Starship model line? Because it's a concept that is absolutely ground breaking and will vastly accelerate our return to the Moon and then get us on to Mars. The Starship rockets are not just the biggest and most powerful rocket ever built by man, but just like the SpaceX Falcon line of rockets, Starships are fully reusable for both the booster rocket and the manned Starship section itself.

There's never been anything like it! Just 10 years ago this type of thing would have seemed like science fiction. The rocket sections come back to earth and park themselves on the launch pad again for reuse?!? Truly impressive tech!

Plus, Elon Musk and his team redesigned it so it would be pointier. Pointier looks better.



NASA and the US Space Force are still stuck using 1970's tech of big single-use rockets that are very expensive. And very delayed.

 

[TP2000]

They go up for adoption today. They are all females and have all their shots and have been fixed. We foster kittens and prego cats for the local no kill animal shelter. Priceless Pets Rescue https://pricelesspetrescue.org/adoptable-cats/

God bless you for that! I'm very thankful for people like you who care for shelter animals and get them to great homes.

 

[Phroobar]

Are you unfamiliar with the Starship model line? Because it's a concept that is absolutely ground breaking and will vastly accelerate our return to the Moon and then get us on to Mars. The Starship rockets are not just the biggest and most powerful rocket ever built by man, but just like the SpaceX Falcon line of rockets, Starships are fully reusable for both the booster rocket and the manned Starship section itself.

There's never been anything like it! Just 10 years ago this type of thing would have seemed like science fiction. The rocket sections come back to earth and park themselves on the launch pad again for reuse?!? Truly impressive tech!

Plus, Elon Musk and his team redesigned it so it would be pointier. Pointier looks better.



NASA and the US Space Force are still stuck using 1970's tech of big single-use rockets that are very expensive. And very delayed.

Disney and SpaceX could totally make a ride out of this.

 

[TP2000]

Disney and SpaceX could totally make a ride out of this.

EXACTLY! Why SpaceX doesn't have a presence in Disneyland's Tomorrowland and WDW's Epcot is beyond me!

Even just an interactive walk-thru exhibit on how the Starship and Falcon series both work, how it's all set up for continual reuse, and what the implications are of all that for manned space travel in this decade and the next decade would be fantastic! Plus the ability to use the Starship line also for transcontinental passenger service; New York to Sydney, or London to Singapore, in only 30 minutes!

That's not even enough time for the Starship stewardesses to roll a drink cart down the aisle!

A SpaceX exhibit certainly would be better than the current scenario; Innoventions, Magic Eye Theater, and Starcade sitting empty.

 

[truecoat]

This is the largest rocket ever build. It has to ability to launch the equivalent of the ISS Space Station in tonnage all at once. It has never been done before. It is also an older design so it was expendable. NASA will never get the funding for such a thing.

Yep, the one they built after this one already had a hundred+ improvements designed into it. SpaceX doesn't build the final product like NASA did. They build, fly, and improve constantly.

 

[Parteecia]

EXACTLY! Why SpaceX doesn't have a presence in Disneyland's Tomorrowland and WDW's Epcot is beyond me!

Elon may be too controversial and unpredictable for Iger, especially since Musk's recent political statements seem to align closer to DeSantis. And remember he was sued for calling a child rescuer a pedo. He won that case but still no one Iger would want to get in bed with.

Meantime, an opinion writer at the LA Times must have been following our discussion.

Opinion: Hate Elon Musk? That's OK, but root for SpaceX's Starship rocket

The next time Elon Musk's Starship launches, hope for a successful success not a successful failure. Otherwise, humans may not get back to the moon again as planned in 2025.

www.latimes.com

 

[TP2000]

Yep, the one they built after this one already had a hundred+ improvements designed into it. SpaceX doesn't build the final product like NASA did. They build, fly, and improve constantly.

It's a truly impressive company! I just found a video SpaceX did of their bigger Starship launch failures with explosions.

Starship is a much younger model of rocket, so fewer explosions and crashes under its belt than the Falcons, yet still a fun 60 second video to watch. But I think the Sousa march music on their Falcon crash compilation that SpaceX did was funnier!

SpaceX embodies... Wit. Wonder. Youthful Energy. Hard Work. Big Goals. Big Success. Big Future. Why isn't this company a Tomorrowland exhibitor?!?

 

[Phroobar]

Imagine Test Track sponsored by Telsa Motors. It would sure make the post show area a lot more interesting than a bunch of dated GM cars.

 

[Parteecia]

They go up for adoption today. They are all females and have all their shots and have been fixed. We foster kittens and prego cats for the local no kill animal shelter. Priceless Pets Rescue https://pricelesspetrescue.org/adoptable-cats/

I love cats. Unfortunately, my dog does too.

 

[Phroobar]

I love cats. Unfortunately, my dog does too.

Just found out all four are adopted. They were gone in the matter of two hours. Momma cat will go up in a couple of weeks after she drys up.

 

[DrAlice]

Elon may be too controversial and unpredictable for Iger, especially since Musk's recent political statements seem to align closer to DeSantis. And remember he was sued for calling a child rescuer a pedo. He won that case but still no one Iger would want to get in bed with.

I think you are spot on here. I'm a "true believer" of SpaceX and what they are trying to do, and even I wish he would just shut his trap. When I applaud SpaceX, I'm thinking of the 1000s of employees that are working their butts off to accomplish their goals. SpaceX doesn't just equal Elon Musk. For example, can we get a little love for President and COO Gwynne Shotwell? There would be no SpaceX if she wasn't there to balance Elon's madness. She's the one that sealed the deal on the company's first government contracts. She's the one running the overall show day-to-day.

Anyway...... To answer @TP2000 's larger question (and further agree with Parteecia), I think in this day and age of social media, Disney is forced to play it super cautious with corporate sponsorships. If they make a 10 year sponsorship deal with Company A and 5 years from now, Company A's CEO is accused of anything that might taint the image of the Disney brand, they will get some heat from that. Modern Disney Execs are just too averse to that kind of risk. And, in some way, they should be. Think about it: the most minor of things occurs at a Disney park and it is national news, just because it is Disney. Now add to the headline "Disney in partnership with that evil CEO we all hate". Nope. They don't want that.

 

[CaptinEO]

Elon may be too controversial and unpredictable for Iger, especially since Musk's recent political statements seem to align closer to DeSantis. And remember he was sued for calling a child rescuer a pedo. He won that case but still no one Iger would want to get in bed with.

Meantime, an opinion writer at the LA Times must have been following our discussion.

Opinion: Hate Elon Musk? That's OK, but root for SpaceX's Starship rocket

The next time Elon Musk's Starship launches, hope for a successful success not a successful failure. Otherwise, humans may not get back to the moon again as planned in 2025.

www.latimes.com

I think Iger will get in bed with anyone that will make him money. The president of China is the least socially acceptable person in the world but he spent a decade wining and dining him to get into a business relationship with him.

 

[Phroobar]

I think Iger will get in bed with anyone that will make him money. The president of China is the least socially acceptable person in the world but he spent a decade wining and dining him to get into a business relationship with him.

He sees nothing wrong with child slavery. Just look a the hundreds of kids he makes sing that song over and over again on Small World.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I think Iger will get in bed with anyone that will make him money. The president of China is the least socially acceptable person in the world but he spent a decade wining and dining him to get into a business relationship with him.

Thing is, most people in the US won't hold Iger accountable for China because he/Disney really isn't doing anything that any other massive corporation isn't also doing in China.

Additinally, many people in the US simply don't care about other countries (or at least, not on any level deeper than ________ country good, ________ country bad), and thus won't look deeply into or think about what Iger or anyone else is doing there. Perceptions in the US, however, where what Disney does is much more widely scrutinized, are much more important to Iger and more important to influencing his decisions.

 

[Consumer]

I'm by no means a Musk fanboy, but if there's one point he does deserve praise for it's cracking down on pedophiles on Twitter. Prior to his acquisition of the platform, Twitter was overrun by pedophiles and even underage p-rnography. Thankfully Elon has done a great job of eliminating that content from Twitter.

I won't waste time defending a billionaire on much, but this does deserve recognition.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I'm by no means a Musk fanboy, but if there's one point he does deserve praise for it's cracking down on pedophiles on Twitter. Prior to his acquisition of the platform, Twitter was overrun by pedophiles and even underage p-rnography. Thankfully Elon has done a great job of eliminating that content from Twitter.

CSAM on Twitter has exploded under Musk. He has done the exact opposite of cracking down, he has allowed it to flourish.

 

[CaptinEO]

Thing is, most people in the US won't hold Iger accountable for China because he/Disney really isn't doing anything that any other massive corporation isn't also doing in China.

Additinally, many people in the US simply don't care about other countries (or at least, not on any level deeper than ________ country good, ________ country bad), and thus won't look deeply into or think about what Iger or anyone else is doing there. Perceptions in the US, however, where what Disney does is much more widely scrutinized, are much more important to Iger and more important to influencing his decisions.

Very true. Sad but true.

 

[Phroobar]

CSAM on Twitter has exploded under Musk. He has done the exact opposite of cracking down, he has allowed it to flourish.

I don't want to know what csam is. Do I have to get the kittens out again?

 

[TP2000]

I don't want to know what csam is. Do I have to get the kittens out again?

Thank you. I'm genuinely glad to know that I'm not the only one who doesn't know what "CSAM" means, and doesn't want to Google it.

But get the kittens ready just in case someone tells us what it means...

 

[Parteecia]

Thing is, most people in the US won't hold Iger accountable for China because he/Disney really isn't doing anything that any other massive corporation isn't also doing in China.

Additinally, many people in the US simply don't care about other countries (or at least, not on any level deeper than ________ country good, ________ country bad), and thus won't look deeply into or think about what Iger or anyone else is doing there. Perceptions in the US, however, where what Disney does is much more widely scrutinized, are much more important to Iger and more important to influencing his decisions.

All very true. China is under the radar for most people. Musk is in your face.