The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

Stevek

Stevek

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Phroobar said:
The thing is visit to Disney is expensive. You're charged left and right for everything.

The way I see it, you are telling them you approve of their actions by buying ANY annual pass. The best way to make things better is to not give them any money and encourage others to do the same.
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We bought before we knew exactly how things would be. Renewal is coming up in September.
 
Stevek

Stevek

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Ne'er-Do-Well Cad said:
The parks are absolutely slammed at all times. Massive lines for $30 parking and overpriced merch. I’m all for abstaining from visiting out of disgust with the current state of things, but Chapek is not noticing a single person voting with their wallet.
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It's ridiculous that they have one attendant manning a single booth, covering 2 lanes. They are either doing this to a) save on payroll or b) manage the flow of cars into the structure.
 
Rich T

Rich T

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Ne'er-Do-Well Cad said:
The parks are absolutely slammed at all times. Massive lines for $30 parking and overpriced merch. I’m all for abstaining from visiting out of disgust with the current state of things, but Chapek is not noticing a single person voting with their wallet.
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Tons of vacation-deprived people are slamming tourist destinations right now. I’m in Florida for a year, and Universal Orlando is packed daily. I bought a Univ. annual pass so I can do lots of early entry mornings and leave after lunch. Despite crowds, though, UO remains an easy, guest-friendly place to visit on a whim with no reservations or preplanning (or bank loan) required. I have no desire at all to go near WDW in its present incarnation.

I have a feeling many of those Disney vacationers are going in not realizing how much has changed for the worse at the parks, and I think many will be
reevaluating whether or not they got good value compared to past visits. It’ll take another year for word to get out among the GP.

Or not. If there truly is an endless supply of people willing to jump through hoops and pay whatever the Disney corporation demands… well, those guests and their grinning corporate overlords have found a perfect symbiotic relationship.
 
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Too Many Hats

Too Many Hats

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Rich T said:
I have a feeling many of those Disney vacationers are going in not realizing how much has changed for the worse at the parks, and I think many will be
reevaluating whether or not they got good value compared to past visits. It’ll take another year for word to get out among the GP.

Or not. If there truly is an endless supply of people willing to jump through hoops and pay whatever the Disney corporation demands… well, those guests and their grinning corporate overlords have found a perfect symbiotic relationship.
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I personally know two families (the kind of folks who love Disney vacations but would never read a message board or anything) who have done some "reevaluating" in the aftermath of their overcrowded, overpriced, over-planned 2021/2022 WDW trips. Can't imagine they're the only ones.

I don't think this bad word of mouth will affect Disney's bottom line anytime soon, but I do believe it will hurt them eventually, perhaps irreparably. Disney's leadership operates as if the gravy train of pay-any-price-no-matter-what Disney-addicted diehards will never end. But will a rabid Disney parks fanbase even exist a generation from now? It's not a guarantee that this generation of children will grow into adults with warm feelings and brand loyalty toward a company that blatantly nickel-and-dimes families while continually offering less and less. And I wonder to what degree is Disney even exceptional to this generation; are today's savvy, iPhone-owning kids actually wowed by the deteriorating AAs on Splash(/every attraction)? Universal will soon be opening Epic Universe; what does Disney have on the horizon?

Of course, long-term brand loyalty is not relevant when quarterly profits are the sole concern.
 
Too Many Hats

Too Many Hats

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Stevek said:
It's ridiculous that they have one attendant manning a single booth, covering 2 lanes. They are either doing this to a) save on payroll or b) manage the flow of cars into the structure.
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100% agree, it's ridiculous.

It's also ridiculous that lines are so long at Disneyland's front gate (not just in the morning, but at all hours of the day!). They still have CMs taking photos of every single guest with a multi-day ticket, which is just maddeningly inefficient. You'd think the suits would be aghast at guests waiting in line when they could be in the park spending money.
 
chadwpalm

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Ne'er-Do-Well Cad said:
100% agree, it's ridiculous.

It's also ridiculous that lines are so long at Disneyland's front gate (not just in the morning, but at all hours of the day!). They still have CMs taking photos of every single guest with a multi-day ticket, which is just maddeningly inefficient. You'd think the suits would be aghast at guests waiting in line when they could be in the park spending money.
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From my experience a couple weekends ago, the timeframe between getting in line at the parking structure to being inside the park (which would include standing in line at the M&F bag check, waiting for the tram, and waiting in the park entry line) is between 45-60 minutes.

You can easily cut that in half if you choose to walk from M&F to the parks via DTD.
 
Stevek

Stevek

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chadwpalm said:
From my experience a couple weekends ago, the timeframe between getting in line at the parking structure to being inside the park (which would include standing in line at the M&F bag check, waiting for the tram, and waiting in the park entry line) is between 45-60 minutes.

You can easily cut that in half if you choose to walk from M&F to the parks via DTD.
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It was probably 30-45 minutes for us to get through the parking lot toll booths and to security for both of our last 2 visits. We got there around 6-7pm both trips, zero wait for security, trams and very minimal for turnstiles. The parking lot really was the issue and it would have been better for us to either park in the TS lot or at garden walk and just walk in.
 
Too Many Hats

Too Many Hats

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chadwpalm said:
From my experience a couple weekends ago, the timeframe between getting in line at the parking structure to being inside the park (which would include standing in line at the M&F bag check, waiting for the tram, and waiting in the park entry line) is between 45-60 minutes.

You can easily cut that in half if you choose to walk from M&F to the parks via DTD.
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Walking can absolutely save time, but my 2022 security and tram experiences actually haven't been so bad. It's the line of cars into the parking garage and then at Disneyland's front gate that have been brutal/atypically long/slow.
 

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