The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[mickEblu]

And I will just say this on the "Slap heard round the world", both parties were wrong. However I can understand how a person might react in that way when someone is trying to poke fun of a loved ones aliment. My understanding is this isn't the first time the two had beef with each other.

I keep seeing people say both of them were wrong without qualifying that statement (due to different biases) and I think that’s kind of crazy. One is a comedian who made a very mild joke. The other slapped someone on Live Tv.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I keep seeing people say both of them were wrong without qualifying that statement due to different biases and I think that’s kind of crazy. One is a comedian who made a very mild joke. The other slapped someone on Live Tv.

Yeah, I very much feel this way. You can dislike the joke, but the idea that "well, sometimes people just hit other people" doesn't quite sit right with me as a reaction to this. Surely it should never come to that, particularly in a setting as plush, privileged, and controlled as the Academy Awards. If you can't control your anger there to the point where you jump on stage and later make a speech about being "disrespected" when you win an Oscars, you have a problem.

 

[Disney Irish]

I keep seeing people say both of them were wrong without qualifying that statement (due to different biases) and I think that’s kind of crazy. One is a comedian who made a very mild joke. The other slapped someone on Live Tv.

Rock was wrong because her hair is short due to an autoimmune disease, something that is really not a "mild joke" to a lot of people.

And yes Smith was wrong because he struck a person on Live TV. However I can understand why he did it, not saying I agree with his action just I understand it.

 

[mickEblu]

Yeah, I very much feel this way. You can dislike the joke, but the idea that "well, sometimes people just hit other people" doesn't quite sit right with me as a reaction to this. Surely it should never come to that, particularly in a setting as plush, privileged, and controlled as the Academy Awards. If you can't control your anger there to the point where you jump on stage and make a speech about being "disrespected" when you win an award at the Oscars, you have a problem.

Right and it may even be worse that. He probably had a feeling nothing would happen to him.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Right and it may even be worse that. He probably had a feeling nothing would happen to him.

And, at least so far, he was right. It seems most of his his celebrity peers have actually rallied around him rather than the guy he hit. I also find the hubris quite stunning. He ended up derailing the entire event and overshadowing all the winners. Again, though, maybe he's right and is famous enough to do whatever he wants.

 

[TP2000]

I think I would've been pleased with the performance if: 1. they didn't advertise it as the first live performance of WDTAB; and 2. this was the opening number of the show.

I love Meg Thee Stallion! I like the concept of remixing one of the most popular songs of the year in a way that only live performances can! There was just a misalignment of what was being promised and what was being sold, and I'm disappointed because of that.

What's weird is that Bruno was the biggest, wildest song hit of the year from a movie, and yet it wasn't even nominated for Best Song. So they had to include it somehow, and decided to open the show with its song-and-dance number.

Kind of proves my point about how irrelevant the Oscars have become. None of the Best Picture noms were big hits, several were complete box office disasters (West Side Story) or obscure little artsy films that no one actually saw (Belfast, Licorice Pizza, that Dog thing, etc.) And the reatively unknown picture that won? It was on TV.

The biggest hit song of the year came from a movie... and Oscar doesn't even nominate it.

 

[mickEblu]

Rock was wrong because her hair is short due to an autoimmune disease, something that is really not a "mild joke" to a lot of people.

And yes Smith was wrong because he struck a person on Live TV. However I can understand why he did it, not saying I agree with his action just I understand it.

First off do we know that he knew that? First time I heard about it was last night. Second, she doesn’t have cancer, she has alopecia. Half the men in the world are balding. Can we not make fun of them either?

Here is the definition of Alopecia…

“Alopecia areata occurs when the immune system attacks hair follicles, and may be brought on by severe stress.”

I mean damn, it’s not Cancer or AIDS.

So she’s stressed out and losing her hair (probably because she can’t shut her mouth about her affairs and feels guilty about what Will has had to deal with) and a comedian can’t make a Joke?

 

[TP2000]

And, at least so far, he was right. It seems most of his his celebrity peers have actually rallied around him rather than the guy he hit. I also find the hubris quite stunning. He ended up derailing the entire event and overshadowing all the winners. Again, though, maybe he's right and is famous enough to do whatever he wants.

I just heard on the radio that Will and Jada Smith will be "discussing the incident" on their little streaming special thing somewhere. Facebook? Don't forget to Like & Subscribe!

So a deranged and mentally unstable man physically assaults an Oscars presenter on live TV after he initially laughed at the presenter's hairdo joke but then saw his wife wasn't pleased and hit the guy, and so the happy couple goes on a self-absorbed streaming site to pander for Likes. Absolute Hollywood Perfection.

 

[TP2000]

“Alopecia areata occurs when the immune system attacks hair follicles, and may be brought on by severe stress.”

I mean damn, it’s not Cancer or AIDS.

So she’s stressed out and losing her hair (probably because she can’t shut her mouth about her affairs and feels guilty about what Will has had to deal) and a comedian can’t make a Joke?

She's clearly got functioning hair follicles. A bald person has shiny skin if their hair follicles have shut down and stopped creating hair shafts. It's just she had her hair shaved to a tight fade for last night's social occasion, thus the GI Jane joke, as you can see in this photo of her head from last night.

Now, she may not be asked to be the next Breck Girl, but it's not that she's gone completely bald. She just doesn't have the ability to grow healthy long locks anymore, and she asked her hairdresser to give her a skin fade for the gala.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

The biggest hit song of the year came from a movie... and Oscar doesn't even nominate it.

As far as I understand it, that's on Disney for not submitting it and a result of the Oscars changing the rules that a maximum of two songs from one film can be nominated. I guess they figured the ballad would be the best contender until Bruno took everyone by surprise.

It seems a stupid rule to me. The end result is that the category is dominated by nondescript songs composed to play over the end credits of the film rather than songs written for the few actual musicals.

 

[TP2000]

And, at least so far, he was right. It seems most of his his celebrity peers have actually rallied around him rather than the guy he hit. I also find the hubris quite stunning. He ended up derailing the entire event and overshadowing all the winners. Again, though, maybe he's right and is famous enough to do whatever he wants.

The level of narcissism and elitist privilege it must require for a man to be seated in the VIP Lounge Front Row at the Oscars because he is nominated for Best Actor, and then to go up onstage and sucker punch a comedian on live TV for making a joke about his wife's unusual hairdo is off the scales.

So now, anyone can storm a stage and punch comedians for making tacky jokes? The Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences doesn't have a policy about workplace violence? You can just sucker punch a man and go back to your seat for the rest of the show now? That's good to know! There's probably a lot of career beefs and personal opinions out there in Hollywood that need to be settled this way now.

 

[mickEblu]

She's clearly got functioning hair follicles. A bald person has shiny skin if their hair follicles have shut down and stopped creating hair shafts. It's just she had her hair shaved to a tight fade for last night's social occasion, thus the GI Jane joke, as you can see in this photo of her head from last night.

Now, she may not be asked to be the next Breck Girl, but it's not that she's gone completely bald. She just doesn't have the ability to grow healthy long locks anymore, and she asked her hairdresser to give her a skin fade for the gala.

Good point. Probably explains why I never thought of her as “bald.” And I really do wonder if Chris Rock knew she has “alopecia.”

 

[No Name]

That article doesn't dispute that her grandmother maybe Mexican, just that Megan doesn't speak Spanish.

Either way yes I agree with you that she is more American than Latin.

Well it kinda does, the whole exchange makes no sense if she’s actually Mexican. But she’s probably a fraction Mexican like most people there. Anyway yeah I’m not super invested in this either way, dont want to sound like a Megan Thee Stallion super fan (perhaps it’s too late!)

 

[TP2000]

Good point. Probably explains why I never thought of her as “bald.” And I really do wonder if Chris Rock knew she has “alopecia.”

Yup. She's not bald. She has lots of functioning hair follicles, as anyone can see in photos and in person. She has chosen to have her hair shaved close to her scalp, and made a big splash of it on the Oscars red carpet.

Jada Pinkett Smith is not bald, she just has a very short, buzzed haircut.

This is bald, where almost all of the hair follicles are no longer functioning... Even his eyebrows.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Rock was wrong because her hair is short due to an autoimmune disease, something that is really not a "mild joke" to a lot of people.

And yes Smith was wrong because he struck a person on Live TV. However I can understand why he did it, not saying I agree with his action just I understand it.

Thank you. Hair can be a very sensitive topic for black women. She is losing her hair and she has no control over it.

People are very insensitive in this thread. So thanks again.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Thank you. Hair can be a very sensitive topic for black women. She is losing her hair and she has no control over it.

People are very insensitive in this thread. So thanks again.

But are we surprised? Attacking women for their appearance is a rather regular “fun” occurrence on the Disneyland board.

 

[TP2000]

Good point. Probably explains why I never thought of her as “bald.” And I really do wonder if Chris Rock knew she has “alopecia.”

I doubt Chris Rock did.

I think you'd have to follow her on Twitter or care enough to listen to one of her long, droning interviews on Facebook Live about how fascinating and interesting she finds herself to be to learn that she has unhealthy hair.

 

[Disney Irish]

But are we surprised? Attacking women for their appearance is a rather regular “fun” occurrence on the Disneyland board.

Not just women, people in general get attacked for their appearance by this board a lot, and its just accepted.

 

[Californian Elitist]

And really, you're going all testo macho but you slap instead of punch? After playing Ali? That was strange. As was laughing, then seeing his wife's face, then avenging. Some kind of dynamics going on there.

Playing Muhammad Ali for a role versus actually being Muhammad Ali are not the same.

Are you saying he should have actually punched Rock? A man slapping another man isn’t “macho” enough?

 

[Disney Irish]

First off do we know that he knew that? First time I heard about it was last night. Second, she doesn’t have cancer, she has alopecia. Half the men in the world are balding. Can we not make fun of them either?

Here is the definition of Alopecia…

“Alopecia areata occurs when the immune system attacks hair follicles, and may be brought on by severe stress.”

I mean damn, it’s not Cancer or AIDS.

So she’s stressed out and losing her hair (probably because she can’t shut her mouth about her affairs and feels guilty about what Will has had to deal with) and a comedian can’t make a Joke?

She has been very public about it, and the black community within Hollywood is small enough that he would have known.