SuddenStorm
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I checked in some people at my hotel tonight who mentioned they were on their way to Disneyland, and the wife mentioned Genie and went on a mini tirade about it.
It's definitely really ed people off.
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I checked in some people at my hotel tonight who mentioned they were on their way to Disneyland, and the wife mentioned Genie and went on a mini tirade about it.
It's definitely really ed people off.
waltography
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Same; I don't think I was as anti-Batuu as most folks here, but I was hesitant about how intrusive it would be to Disneyland's cardinal lands. Didn't stop me from booking a room to see the land in previews or riding Rise the day after its grand opening at DL though.Haha! I was super against Galaxy's Edge and I'd bet I rode Rise of the Resistance before anyone on this forum.
But Also that one time was enough and I only do it so I'm not 'that guy' in my group when I go with friends. Even though I already kind of am 'that guy' when it comes to Disneyland
No Name
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Not as common here, but a lot of people thought John Lassiter was a great guy who really truly cared about the parks, turns out he’s not the best guy and cared more about the lasting legacy of his movies. People liked Joe Rohde’s last two projects and interesting social media posts, and now we have The Zach who sounds like a corporate marketing account while he’s not busy leading some bafflingly-terrible design decisions. Unthemed buildings and stuff are popping up everywhere. For whatever reason, people hold onto this idea that Bob Iger brought back quality to the parks, when he simply reversed the company’s increasing addiction to cheapness, and mainly focused on that because that’s the premise he “ran” on to become CEO. But even so, he was still better than Bob the Second, who is leading the company into mediocrity firsthand with his vague answers to investor questions, reluctance to speak on major events, etc. His search volume on Google a couple weeks ago was at its highest point since he became CEO, and it was all from negative coverage. The media likes to paint Bob Iger as the savvy hero who lead the company to new heights, and Bob Chapek as the lame and worrisome successor. It’s partially true and it’s definitely shaped things.
edit: holy crap that was a lot of rambling from me. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
edit: holy crap that was a lot of rambling from me. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Californian Elitist
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I think I rode it first lol. @George Lucas on a Bench and I.Haha! I was super against Galaxy's Edge and I'd bet I rode Rise of the Resistance before anyone on this forum.
But Also that one time was enough and I only do it so I'm not 'that guy' in my group when I go with friends. Even though I already kind of am 'that guy' when it comes to Disneyland
It was also a one and done for me! I remember getting off and immediately thinking about the next ride. I just wasn’t really that impressed at all. Not enough to rave about it, at least. I of course will ride if I’m with a group of people that want to get on, but I don’t ever have to ride again.
SuddenStorm
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I rode it early December 2019 during the unannounced cast previews. About a month before the official cast previews.
I waited maybe 15 minutes to ride (they had us enter through the back of the attraction, just past Winston Gate). Got off and was like 'eh', and went back into Disneyland to watch the Lincoln show. Talk about a ride that should be amazing but just misses the mark.
DrAlice
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And there are some pretty cool launches scheduled for May. Keep an eye open. You might get lucky with timing and be able to catch one live.
Disney Analyst
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Okay one of the things I can firmly agree on. This is just dumb.
Californian Elitist
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If Disney is going to do anything, they’re going to force Pixar and Star Wars into the parks by any means necessary, and it will be overkill.
What is that?
What is that?
waltography
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It took the second viewing for me to really enjoy Encanto and unpack all of that generational trauma, so I totally get where you're coming from too.
Is this just decor they pulled out from Pixar Fest? This is just tacky.
Disney Analyst
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CaptinEO
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Zach is a person chosen to do corporate pr on their personal accounts. No idea why though. He has no history or personality. Just a way for PR to have a "controlled" "celebrity" imagineer.
Iger invested heavily in the parks/Disney but went cheaper as time went on. But the IP synergy mandate from late Eisner era was still in full force.
Chapek is continuing Iger's late career decline.
But people should make no mistake, many of the bad projects that were completed recently were all greenlit under Iger, including Genie.
Lassetter I lost any respect for the moment I heard about him stealing the Cars film and artwork from his employee and presenting it as his own idea. Didn't realize he was even scummier than this until all the allegations came out.
Here's the artwork the employee made:
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Hahaha yea for sure. I was genuinely about to write why they don’t do something more appropriate for Tomorrowland and then it hit me that the land is like 40% Pixar. So I guess they just want to use the land as Pixar flex space until the land gets a proper redo. Part of me wonders if they’d really that rid of Buzz and Nemo though
waltography
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As happy as I am that the subs still exist, I would not shed a tear if they decided to get rid of it one day. It takes up way too much space for the experience it provides, and it/Autopia/Innoventions sit in a prime expansion area. I don't see the subs lasting this decade, and I would hope that their closure would finally signal the start of a Tomorrowland redo.
As for Buzz, I don't really care if they keep it, but it too needs some enhancements (working cameras and a new Buzz animatronic, for one).
Well you and the other 99% of us. Of course we like it add the lagoon stipulation. I’m not cool losing the lagoon. I’d rather they retheme the subs though. I just don’t trust them with something as important as Tomorrowland. Any major construction in that area would scare me.
Buzz should go and be replaced with a proper dark ride.
Practical Pig
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Yep. I think one shooter ride is plenty per park, and DCA is doing double duty now. Buzz is based in a story about today, not tomorrow, and never really fit theme except sorta laterally because: Space.
But what (mandatory) IP? I'm almost entirely joking when I say that a Black Hole dark ride could give us an animatronic Dr. Hans Reinhardt.
waltography
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I'm cool reducing the size of the lagoon if/when the subs go dark. I think anything (even what they're doing at EPCOT right now) is an improvement over what we have in Tomorrowland, which is bottlenecked, tacky, and lacking any sort of cohesive vision.
Give us the 60s retro-futurism that the new entrance planters will eventually have and blend it with some of the stylistic cues we've seen in Epcot's terrace and I'd be happy with it for another 30 years. Anything to give Tomorrowland meaning again.
No Name
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Well I feel this is only true regarding DL, because for the parks as a whole, spending was at company-record lows in Iger’s first 10 years but started going up in the mid-late 2010s. Also the last rides constructed under Eisner at all of the resorts were pretty original except for the ones that were Buzz shooter rides. I think there was still a healthy mix until Bob Iger became CEO and then instituted the IP mandate.
Overall there was a clear downward spiral for Eisner but I don’t think Bob changed all that much.
Disney Analyst
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I’ve always favoured removing subs / autopia.
But I would love if the future replacement still had a water element.