SuddenStorm
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If the stretching room corpse is still there when Mansion reopens from it's overlay I'm never going back! I just can't enjoy a ride with those depictions and refuse to support a company that champions such imagery.
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If the stretching room corpse is still there when Mansion reopens from it's overlay I'm never going back! I just can't enjoy a ride with those depictions and refuse to support a company that champions such imagery.
Too Many Hats
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I totally get it. It's particularly awkward sitting next to a single rider on a roller coaster (are you really going to scream in the presence of a total stranger?). At least Space Mountain is in the dark -- I'll vote Incredicoaster for "most awkward."
At the same time, I just think single rider lines are so good for efficiency and boosting capacity that I have to support them.
Too Many Hats
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I take back what I just wrote. Splash Mountain is the most awkward single-rider experience (whether you're the single rider or part of the group that gets stuck with a rando). I'm referring to the single-file Disneyland version. You all know what I'm talking about.
It’s been wild. From the wild card game to the NLDS to the NLCS. I thought the Dodgers were dead last night and then Belli pulls another rabbit out of the Dodgers hat to save the series. Not that I feel bad for a team loaded with the Dodgers talent but we have kind of caught some bad breaks, played some great teams and are still alive and in a good position to win this series. The Giants winning our division really threw things/ our pitching rotation off. From having to use Scherzer in a wild card game that a 106 win team has no business being in to that crazy wind that robbed us of a few home runs in the NLDS to the having to start on the road vs Atlanta who won 18 less games than us. I’m not a huge baseball guy, I only really tune in for the playoffs but the way they structure the playoffs doesn’t really make sense to me.
Balls have been bouncing the Braves way but I think last night changed up the momentum.
Yeah you re right. System is good, just not for me. Now that I’m expecting Rando and it’s fresh on my mind, next time I’ll just let my request be known by the CM beforehand and I’m sure they will accommodate. Everyone wins. It’s really a rare issue as it’s only 3 rides where this happens and I’m also very rarely going on a ride with a party of 3.
Sharon&Susan
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I missed it, but seems like they ran some random Youtube video meant for toddlers instead:
Mac Tonight
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We'll see. I still have faith in the Braves. Belli just got really lucky with that swing.
LA getting to the WS (again) is like Leonardo DiCaprio being nominated for another Acadamy Award. Boring and predictable.
Californian Elitist
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Hater.
Mac Tonight
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Lol yeah but we deserve one in front of the fans since last year we played the WS in Texas and we got cheated by the Astros in 2017.
Mac Tonight
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You're right. Last year's WS was bogus. ; )
Californian Elitist
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It’s ridiculous, but it’s expected now. My mom and I just came from Joanns and Michaels this past weekend and both stores had a decent amount of Christmas decor on display. Not only was it on display, but their fall and Halloween decor was pushed towards the back of the store. Additionally, I’ve seen a handful of Christmas shopping commercials and have also been receiving emails about the holiday season approaching (it’s only considered “the holidays” when Thanksgiving and Christmas come). Meanwhile, I still don’t know if I’m going to order candy from Amazon or just go out and buy some for trick-or-treaters this year.
Christmas gets shoved into Halloween’s space because it’s a much more profitable holiday.
Animaniac93-98
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So lots of people have commented on how nice the facades of Disneyland's Fantasyland are, but I think special attention needs to be given as to WHY they fit so well together.
The exteriors of Peter Pan, Mr. Toad, Pinocchio etc are pretty distinct. That's in part to differentiate them and make them relate to each ride inside, but had they not been done so well, they really would have clashed being right next to each other.
The smartest thing they did was keep all the colours muted and neutral. It's all earthy tones, with only the occasional colour accent. From a distance, they all fit together because of this and the fact that they form a pleasing silhouette in keeping with the scale of the castle.
That's part of the reason why WDW's New Fantasyland feels so off. Besides the wide walkways, The Little Mermaid, Seven Dwarfs and Beast areas contrast quite a bit in terms of architecture, color, scale and even vegetation (palm trees in provincial France?). They only reason they're lumped together is because they're all "fantasy" stories...and then Dumbo's circus is next door. There's no buffer, no consistency and it's all out in the open because the only really woodsy part to control sightlines is on the opposite end of the mine.
The exteriors of Peter Pan, Mr. Toad, Pinocchio etc are pretty distinct. That's in part to differentiate them and make them relate to each ride inside, but had they not been done so well, they really would have clashed being right next to each other.
The smartest thing they did was keep all the colours muted and neutral. It's all earthy tones, with only the occasional colour accent. From a distance, they all fit together because of this and the fact that they form a pleasing silhouette in keeping with the scale of the castle.
That's part of the reason why WDW's New Fantasyland feels so off. Besides the wide walkways, The Little Mermaid, Seven Dwarfs and Beast areas contrast quite a bit in terms of architecture, color, scale and even vegetation (palm trees in provincial France?). They only reason they're lumped together is because they're all "fantasy" stories...and then Dumbo's circus is next door. There's no buffer, no consistency and it's all out in the open because the only really woodsy part to control sightlines is on the opposite end of the mine.
Communicora
Premium Member
They are just preparing for the 30th anniversary celebration of the Great Minnesota Halloween Blizzard of 1991.
britain
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New thought:
I was watching @marni1971 's video about the Paris version of pirates. For the longest time, I considered it my favorite version of the attraction. You know the short hand: DLP Pirates has the best of WDW (the fortress queue) and a suped-up verson of the Anaheim ride. It's all fantastic, but I was trying figure out what the original DL version has that the Paris version still doesn't have...
I've concluded that it's the "Pretty on the Outside / Scary on the Inside" philosophy that we normally discuss when talking about the Haunted Mansion. There's something neat about the presentation of Pirates of the Caribbean NOT beginning in a fortress. NOT being in a sandy cave. It's almost like you are walking into a fancy theater, and inside Walt is presenting this weird new form of entertainment.
And I think I'm starting to pull at a thread that separates Disneyland from all the other parks.
"Walt cared about show," we say things like this over and over so much that we forget their meaning. But think about it more this way: Walt was putting on a good show - an upbeat show where goodness is on display. The point wasn't just immersive illusion. The point was to be in a place where everything was harmonious and beautiful in its own charming ways. Was there drama? Danger? Even evil? Yes, but ONLY within the confines of the attractions themselves.
Disneyland is more like the world's most delightful library. The darkness and danger only show up when you're in the middle of reading the books themselves. The library itself doesn't need to have any threatening aspect to it.
So, I ask myself - which do I really prefer? Do I want the adventure to leap beyond the confines of a single ride and take over the land itself? The Paris way is pretty cool - the way 'pirate adventure' bleeds from Peter Pan in Fantasyland, over to Adventure Isle, over to PotC. All immersion, all the time...
All immersion, all the time...
Hmm...
I'm reminded of what Scott Trowbridge asked hypothetically (but kinda-sorta not) at a presentation... eh, somewhere after the opening of Galaxy's Edge after the "misfire" talk started to circle around. He said to the audience something like, "Guests want real interactive, immersive adventure, right?"
I'm on team Galaxy's Edge - I think they made the right calls and went about it the right ways. I think they were tripped up by the budget/entertainment cuts and the unfortunate way the Sequel Trilogy has left fans with a 'meh' aftertaste. But I think it was the right call to whisk that realm of junk, warfare, and economic downtroddenness to its own mini-park outside of DL proper. By putting it there, instead of replacing all of Tomorrowland, we dodged a bullet.
And more to the point, I like it! I like Big Thunder and its semi-abandoned look too. And I like Paris' PotC! And I like the dilapidated Tower of Terror, and Phantom Manor, and all these adventurous places that would violate Walt's Outside/Inside rule.
But I guess I'm asking, as much as I like immersive theme parky exteriors, would my soul appreciate more time in well-manicured gardens? Nicely kept exteriors, followed by pleasant interiors that then safely move me into a daring adventure and then back again?
I was watching @marni1971 's video about the Paris version of pirates. For the longest time, I considered it my favorite version of the attraction. You know the short hand: DLP Pirates has the best of WDW (the fortress queue) and a suped-up verson of the Anaheim ride. It's all fantastic, but I was trying figure out what the original DL version has that the Paris version still doesn't have...
I've concluded that it's the "Pretty on the Outside / Scary on the Inside" philosophy that we normally discuss when talking about the Haunted Mansion. There's something neat about the presentation of Pirates of the Caribbean NOT beginning in a fortress. NOT being in a sandy cave. It's almost like you are walking into a fancy theater, and inside Walt is presenting this weird new form of entertainment.
And I think I'm starting to pull at a thread that separates Disneyland from all the other parks.
"Walt cared about show," we say things like this over and over so much that we forget their meaning. But think about it more this way: Walt was putting on a good show - an upbeat show where goodness is on display. The point wasn't just immersive illusion. The point was to be in a place where everything was harmonious and beautiful in its own charming ways. Was there drama? Danger? Even evil? Yes, but ONLY within the confines of the attractions themselves.
Disneyland is more like the world's most delightful library. The darkness and danger only show up when you're in the middle of reading the books themselves. The library itself doesn't need to have any threatening aspect to it.
So, I ask myself - which do I really prefer? Do I want the adventure to leap beyond the confines of a single ride and take over the land itself? The Paris way is pretty cool - the way 'pirate adventure' bleeds from Peter Pan in Fantasyland, over to Adventure Isle, over to PotC. All immersion, all the time...
All immersion, all the time...
Hmm...
I'm reminded of what Scott Trowbridge asked hypothetically (but kinda-sorta not) at a presentation... eh, somewhere after the opening of Galaxy's Edge after the "misfire" talk started to circle around. He said to the audience something like, "Guests want real interactive, immersive adventure, right?"
I'm on team Galaxy's Edge - I think they made the right calls and went about it the right ways. I think they were tripped up by the budget/entertainment cuts and the unfortunate way the Sequel Trilogy has left fans with a 'meh' aftertaste. But I think it was the right call to whisk that realm of junk, warfare, and economic downtroddenness to its own mini-park outside of DL proper. By putting it there, instead of replacing all of Tomorrowland, we dodged a bullet.
And more to the point, I like it! I like Big Thunder and its semi-abandoned look too. And I like Paris' PotC! And I like the dilapidated Tower of Terror, and Phantom Manor, and all these adventurous places that would violate Walt's Outside/Inside rule.
But I guess I'm asking, as much as I like immersive theme parky exteriors, would my soul appreciate more time in well-manicured gardens? Nicely kept exteriors, followed by pleasant interiors that then safely move me into a daring adventure and then back again?
Nice post. I’m team Walt’s Way of course. Give me the beautiful surroundings and manicured gardens and keep the adventure and darkness on the inside.
britain
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I will add this - Walt's way made me a little paranoid as a child! I'd sit inside the Plaza Inn, looking at the trimmings and the wallpaper. And I'd think "Oh sure, it LOOKS like a beautiful restaurant, but I think there's a loud mighty microscope right behind that victorian panelling! Or a cavern of skeletons right underneath this pretty flooring!"
britain
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But don’t mistake, I really like just “being” in Galaxy’s Edge too! I like sitting there, soaking in the sounds, the atmosphere.
I think it helps that it is not “Main Street” for DL or DHS. It is very far back in both parks. Maybe psychologically, we can take more “spice” in the immersion when it’s after a lot of beauty and reassurance?
It would not be pleasant to walk straight from the streets of Anaheim into a trashy droid junkyard.
It’s things like this that make me roll my eyes at anyone whoever suggests a villains park.